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The Slim Reaper · 23-10-2022, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Denver

She has a much bigger back bone then Kier and knows exactly what needs doing, Kier constantly harms himself by not even given a sleek of what he would do like if Labour is elected as expected we don't even have any sort of idea what they would plan to do apart from take back the things the tories privatised

This is based on nothing. She's as much of a coward as starmer is. I know she tries to present herself as a no-nonsense tough talker but it's a sham, and she's as bad as starmer and the tories.

GiRTh · 23-10-2022, 08:49 PM

Jess Phillips, Angela Raynor, David Lammy. They dont fill me with confidence but they seem to be the future of labour.

Liam- · 23-10-2022, 08:50 PM

Andy Burnham could do wonders if given the chance

Oliver_W · 23-10-2022, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by GiRTh

Jess Phillips, Angela Raynor, David Lammy. They dont fill me with confidence but they seem to be the future of labour.

I'm still not convinced that Raynor isn't secretly a Catherine Tate character...

Oliver_W · 23-10-2022, 09:20 PM

One only has to look at Boris' family tree to know how wean jis pull-out game is. He'll be back.

joeysteele · 23-10-2022, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam-

Andy Burnham could do wonders if given the chance

I voted twice for him to be Labour leader.
I really rate Andy Burnham.
So I agree with what you say there.

Mystic Mock · 23-10-2022, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK

Agreed. I don't think Starmer is a strong leader....but people are now so sick of the Tories Labour will win by a landslide if there was election tomorrow, regardless of their leader.

100% this.

Mystic Mock · 23-10-2022, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Zizu

I actually hope there is a general election and Labour win

I cannot wait to come in here to see you lot defending them on a daily basis .. as Labour mess everything up big time

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Both parties are ****.

I'm just impressed that the Tories could have 5 bad leaders on the bounce.

Zizu · 23-10-2022, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart

You can stick by the conservatives all you like Zizu, but at the end of the day this ISN'T about Labour. The Tory party are the ones who have been in power for the past long 12 YEARS.

If you fail to see any wrongdoing they ever do then that's up to you. But the conservatives have proved time and time again that it's every man for themselves,they don't give a damn about the general public. And they will continue to lie and manipulate and run this country into the ground.

Truss quitting after just 44 days will go down in history as one of the most embarrassing pathetic moments in politics . Seriously the whole party is a joke .

You bringing up Labour ..reminds me of when people use to slag Obama down in American politics despite the fact it was Trump who had been in power at the time for the past few years. People see what they want to see . You can't keep bringing up previous politicians whilst ignoring current very real problems. It just doesn't make sense ,and it feels like a deflection tactic .

They will blindly defend and support whoever they want. Knock yourself out and continue to feel sorry for Boris all you want with rose tinted glasses . But Joey put it best when he described him as a ODIOUS CREEP . I will never like Boris after everything he's done , he has ZERO morals ...... I WOULDN'T trust him AN INCH.

I’ve said all along that all the parties are as bad as each other when they are in power ..

All totally useless and corrupt

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Liam- · 23-10-2022, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele

I voted twice for him to be Labour leader.
I really rate Andy Burnham.
So I agree with what you say there.

I think a Rayner/Burnham team would be gold for Labour

GoldHeart · 23-10-2022, 10:07 PM

The conservatives are in such a dreadful state , that the public would probably rather take their chances with a ventriloquist dummy. So of course Starmer would do well if there was a general election now .But i agree he's not a strong leader, and i'm not a fan of his .

Zizu · 23-10-2022, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK

Don't insult me Zizu, its not a good look.
I have lived through both Labour and Tory governments and neither have benefitted me much. I have never revealed on here which way I vote, ever, so you have no idea which party I vote for. The fact that I can't stand Johnson has nothing to do with my memory, thank you very much.

You said we were living through hell with Boris in charge .. I was simply reminding you that we’ve been through all kinds of hell each time Labour have been in power

It really doesn’t matter which party is in charge . They will make terrible decisions, mess up the economy , rob the taxpayers blind .. it’s what they all do .. time after time

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GoldHeart · 23-10-2022, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Zizu

I’ve said all along that all the parties are as bad as each other when they are in power ..

All totally useless and corrupt

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Even if they are all 'bad as eachother' , the tories are the ones who have royally screwed things up so badly to the point where they need to be booted out.

SO like i said of course Labour will be looking might fine at the moment. I've personally always been a Labour supporter ... no party is perfect 100% . Ideally Labour needs a NEW STRONG leader who will stick by their principles. If we had a general election now i think most of the country would get behind labour.

At the end of the day we still live in a democracy , so somebody has to be in office whether you like them or not .

Zizu · 23-10-2022, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Even if they are all 'bad as eachother' , the tories are the ones who have royally screwed things up so badly to the point where they need to be booted out.

SO like i said of course Labour will be looking might fine at the moment. I've personally always been a Labour supporter ... no party is perfect 100% . Ideally Labour needs a NEW STRONG leader who will stick by their principles. If we had a general election now i think most of the country would get behind labour.

At the end of the day we still live in a democracy , so somebody has to be in office whether you like them or not .

Well there is absolutely nothing that Labour can do about the economy as it’s a world wide problem .. plus they can’t do much about Covid19 which is expected to return soon and with a vengeance .. the energy crisis is another world wide issue ..

So I’m not sure what useless collection of misfits are gonna do .

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thesheriff443 · 23-10-2022, 11:03 PM

Madonna has been singing these lyrics for years
We are in an awful mess right now and I don’t mean maybe.

Kate! · 24-10-2022, 04:50 AM

Agree totally with Liam about Andy Burnham. He'd be an amazing leader. Get it done Labour. Smarmy Starmer out!

bots · 24-10-2022, 05:15 AM

the problem with Burnham is that all the people likely to vote for labour because of the tory mess wouldnt end up voting for labour if he were the leader

Kate! · 24-10-2022, 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide

the problem with Burnham is that all the people likely to vote for labour because of the tory mess wouldnt end up voting for labour if he were the leader

How come? I think Andy is very personable.

arista · 24-10-2022, 05:40 AM

GoldHeart · 24-10-2022, 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by arista

It will never be the right time Boris,so go away back under your rock . The man is ridiculous.

AnnieK · 24-10-2022, 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Kate!

How come? I think Andy is very personable.

Nah, Burnham is a.media *****. He tried to stick us with a congestion charge then backed down when everyone kicked off and tried to blame the Gov when not one other council were going to charge theor citizens. He thinks of himaelf not his constituents. Not many in Manchester would vote for him if he were leader.

joeysteele · 24-10-2022, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Liam-

I think a Rayner/Burnham team would be gold for Labour

I've always rated Andy Burnham.
He has people who don't like him of course, no one is liked by everyone.

Everytime I've spoken to him he is always interested in what you think and say.
He represents good Labour values in my view.
Which he is dedicated to as well.

I think it unfortunate he didn't win after Ed Miliband.
There in my view was a big chance missed.
I really like him.

Zizu · 24-10-2022, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK

Nah, Burnham is a.media *****. He tried to stick us with a congestion charge then backed down when everyone kicked off and tried to blame the Gov when not one other council were going to charge theor citizens. He thinks of himaelf not his constituents. Not many in Manchester would vote for him if he were leader.

There was also this .,

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/heal...l-8669591.html

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Nicky91 · 24-10-2022, 08:17 AM

this thread aged well

jet · 24-10-2022, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

That's a lie, Jet. Vaccine rollout was nothing to do with brexit whatsoever.

No, it is not a lie.

How the EU’s Covid-19 vaccine rollout became an ‘advert for Brexit’

https://www.france24.com/en/europe/2...ert-for-brexit

If we’d still been in the EU, many, many more in the UK would have died. We were at least 3 months ahead of the EU in the vaccine rollout thanks to our government’s quick actions.

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