[bots]

Originally Posted by jet

If there was an election now, then yes. 2024? Nearly 2 years is a long time in politics. Anything could happen.

no, not anything, the economy is not going to improve, times are going to be tough. If you look at any party in power over the last 40 years, during bad economic times, they are out at the next election.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

That's why the conservatives won't want an election.

Not necessarily.. they don’t HAVE to go to the people for another year or 18 months so why on Earth risk anything now ..


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[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

no, not anything, the economy is not going to improve, times are going to be tough. If you look at any party in power over the last 40 years, during bad economic times, they are out at the next election.

You're cheering me up bots.

I've set out to work for and campaign for a Labour win since the 2015 election.

I don't care what it may be.
Labour as easily largest party with either Lib Dem support or SNP just NOT willing to bring Labour down to risk the Cons back in.

My preference would be a comfortable 30 to 40 overall majority.

I don't really like massive landslide wins as majorities with far less than 50% of votes cast.

As I've said, I don't believe these extremely high leads for Labour plus I KNOW a lot of support is not FOR Starmer's Labour but much more against any recent or new Con leader's Cons.

It is true as you stated, a government presiding over economic problems/ chaos 2 to 3 years from an election usually gets punished whenever the next election comes.

I hope you are right and I'll be one of the first to point out you were when this lot get hopefully absolutely turfed out.
No matter the time the Cons now force the electorate to have to wait for in order to get their say on this shambolic mess.

[MTVN]

I always thought forcing him out was a major act of self harm for the party and the country and so it's happened. He's a once in a generation politician who still commands a lot of support across a significant segment of the population.

I'm not sure he commands enough support in the party to govern effectively though. Hopefully him and Sunak come to some sort of deal

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I always thought forcing him out was a major act of self harm for the party and the country and so it's happened. He's a once in a generation politician who still commands a lot of support across a significant segment of the population.

I'm not sure he commands enough support in the party to govern effectively though. Hopefully him and Sunak come to some sort of deal

Like I said elsewhere all the main characters who backstabbed Boris very quickly benefited greatly from his departure .

It was clearly a well organised coup with all the main roles shared out between the main perpetrators


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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

You think Boris wasnt flanked by every sniper MI6 had to offer?? They would have sweeped the area before Boris stepped foot in that area....

I thought I had a vivid imagination


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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Whats the point in voting for any of them, they are a failed, out of touch party that is going to implode

But the same applies to Labour


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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by James

Bad idea. One of the big problems for the government at the moment is credibility, and Boris Johnson coming back won't restore that when his own MPs wanted him out a few months ago.

But look who wanted him out .. a load of incompetent imbeciles


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[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Zizu

I thought I had a vivid imagination


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You think he went without a security detail? PMs have round the clock security everywhere they go. He didn't go out in London without security.....you think he would go to a war zone alone??? Really? I know you said you were in a daft mood but lets be real here.

[The Slim Reaper]

Boris has pulled out. If he'd done that a few more times, he wouldn't have to deny some of his children exist.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by jet

Hear Hear!

Because we weren’t shackled to the European Union, thanks to Boris, Britain was the first with the vaccination rollout, which he gave the go - ahead for, and which was a great success. Many thousands more would have died if we had been dragging our feet like the rest of Europe and the US. But that doesn’t matter, apparently, it’s only people’s lives.
As you say, no PM in recent times had to deal with so much in so short a time span - Brexit, a pandemic which nobody knew how to deal with, the war in Ukraine, in which he led the West in giving support, weapons and training to their cause before others dared.

And people are complaining because he had a bloody drink with some colleagues to unwind…and of course, all world leaders are perfect, the most truthful breed there are, and never tell lies… ever….

What a fabulously , level headed take on things

Can you imagine what things would have been like with Starmer , Angela bladdy , Rayner , Jonathan Ashworth , Anneliese Dodds , David Lammy , Lisa Nandy ..
probably even flamin’ Diane Abbott in charge of all the things Boris had to cope with .,

Boris is getting blamed for our economy when the whole world economy is buggered


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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results - Einstein must have forseen this Boris Johnson ****show we are living through when he came up with his theory of insanity.

It seems that you have conveniently forgotten all the dark days under previous Labour governments


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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt

The markets wobbled today as the prospect of Boris returning.

If that doesn't signal something to the MPs who want Boris in, then they need to all resign.

Links to any of this wobbling ?


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[joeysteele]

Good that this odious creep isn't standing.
Good riddance again to him from me.

[Zizu]

I actually hope there is a general election and Labour win

I cannot wait to come in here to see you lot defending them on a daily basis .. as Labour mess everything up big time




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[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by jet

Hear Hear!

Because we weren’t shackled to the European Union, thanks to Boris, Britain was the first with the vaccination rollout, which he gave the go - ahead for, and which was a great success. Many thousands more would have died if we had been dragging our feet like the rest of Europe and the US. But that doesn’t matter, apparently, it’s only people’s lives.
As you say, no PM in recent times had to deal with so much in so short a time span - Brexit, a pandemic which nobody knew how to deal with, the war in Ukraine, in which he led the West in giving support, weapons and training to their cause before others dared.

And people are complaining because he had a bloody drink with some colleagues to unwind…and of course, all world leaders are perfect, the most truthful breed there are, and never tell lies… ever….

That's a lie, Jet. Vaccine rollout was nothing to do with brexit whatsoever. He spent 2 years trying to screw your country over straight after it as well. Brexit is self harm, so the fact he had to deal with it, after campaigning and lying about it, shouldn't give him extra credit

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Zizu

I actually hope there is a general election and Labour win

I cannot wait to come in here to see you lot defending them on a daily basis .. as Labour mess everything up big time




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It's already a mess, zeez. How on earth do you mess a mess up?

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

It's already a mess, zeez. How on earth do you mess a mess up?

Just wait and watch ..

Labour haven’t been able to get their own party in order .. even though they’ve had nothing but that to do for the last 12 years


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[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Just wait and watch ..

Labour haven’t been able to get their own party in order .. even though they’ve had nothing but that to do for the last 12 years


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Have you been watching the tories?

I actually agree although for different reasons. Starmer is too weak to do anything other than continue tory policies. His interview on Kuenssberg this morning shows that he is laying the groundwork for the austerity that tories are already committed to.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Zizu

It seems that you have conveniently forgotten all the dark days under previous Labour governments


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You can stick by the conservatives all you like Zizu, but at the end of the day this ISN'T about Labour. The Tory party are the ones who have been in power for the past long 12 YEARS.

If you fail to see any wrongdoing they ever do then that's up to you. But the conservatives have proved time and time again that it's every man for themselves,they don't give a damn about the general public. And they will continue to lie and manipulate and run this country into the ground.

Truss quitting after just 44 days will go down in history as one of the most embarrassing pathetic moments in politics . Seriously the whole party is a joke .

You bringing up Labour ..reminds me of when people use to slag Obama down in American politics despite the fact it was Trump who had been in power at the time for the past few years. People see what they want to see . You can't keep bringing up previous politicians whilst ignoring current very real problems. It just doesn't make sense ,and it feels like a deflection tactic .

They will blindly defend and support whoever they want. Knock yourself out and continue to feel sorry for Boris all you want with rose tinted glasses . But Joey put it best when he described him as a ODIOUS CREEP . I will never like Boris after everything he's done , he has ZERO morals ...... I WOULDN'T trust him AN INCH.

[Denver]

I said it before and ill say it again, Jess Phillips is the future of Labour and someone who would suit the PM job perfectly

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Denver

I said it before and ill say it again, Jess Phillips is the future of Labour and someone who would suit the PM job perfectly

She's less than useless. Another neoliberal idiot with nothing to offer.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Zizu

It seems that you have conveniently forgotten all the dark days under previous Labour governments


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Don't insult me Zizu, its not a good look.
I have lived through both Labour and Tory governments and neither have benefitted me much. I have never revealed on here which way I vote, ever, so you have no idea which party I vote for. The fact that I can't stand Johnson has nothing to do with my memory, thank you very much.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

She's less than useless. Another neoliberal idiot with nothing to offer.

She has a much bigger back bone then Kier and knows exactly what needs doing, Kier constantly harms himself by not even given a sleek of what he would do like if Labour is elected as expected we don't even have any sort of idea what they would plan to do apart from take back the things the tories privatised

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Denver

I said it before and ill say it again, Jess Phillips is the future of Labour and someone who would suit the PM job perfectly

Awful woman