[Glenn.]

You’d think considering how much she craves media attention she’d answer back.

[jet]

Mr. Markle was an ordinary elderly man living a quiet life when he was caught up in extraordinary circumstances. She had never even brought Harry to meet him, he was inundated with paps around his home and given no help.
He made the mistake of agreeing to be photographed doing tame things (with a photographer Meghan later used herself) and which didn’t seem to have been malicious, and for which he apologised for and he gets cut off....forever! Yes he has unwisely spoken about her to the media since out of frustration but that wasn't why he was cut off in the first place.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by jet

Mr. Markle was an ordinary elderly man living a quiet life when he was caught up in extraordinary circumstances. She had never even brought Harry to meet him, he was inundated with paps around his home and given no help.
He made the mistake of agreeing to be photographed doing tame things (with a photographer Meghan later used herself) and which didn’t seem to have been malicious, and for which he apologised for and he gets cut off....forever! Yes he has unwisely spoken about her to the media since out of frustration but that wasn't why he was cut off in the first place.

So he's never met Harry at all yet he's going on TV claiming to know that Meghan influences Harry more than the other way around? How does he know that if he's spent zero time with them?

[Glenn.]

I’m glad to see the support for Meghan on Twitter about this. Most of what I’ve seen is everyone calling her father out for yet another cash in.

If he was my father I’d be mortified. What an embarrassment

[jet]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

So he's never met Harry at all yet he's going on TV claiming to know that Meghan influences Harry more than the other way around? How does he know that if he's spent zero time with them?

Telephone calls before their wedding day. It's in the acclaimed author Tom Bowers book.
But it's interesting that that's the thing you picked from my post to comment on.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

So he's never met Harry at all yet he's going on TV claiming to know that Meghan influences Harry more than the other way around? How does he know that if he's spent zero time with them?

It doesn’t fit the narrative if he’s telling the truth because you’re right, he’s never met them

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by jet

Telephone calls before their wedding day. It's in the acclaimed author Tom Bowers book.

So over the phone he was able to tell all that about their relationship? Do me a favour

[jet]

In a 2014 Father's Day post (just 2 years before she zoned in on Harry) on her now-defunct blog, The Tig, Meghan wrote:

"I think of so many moments with my dad. Our club sandwich & fruit smoothie tradition post my tap & ballet class - classes, which by the way, he religiously took me to on Saturday mornings after working 75+ hours a week as a lighting director.
"The fishing trips along the Kern River and Big Bear Lake to catch catfish or trout and cook it up for dinner, and the commitment he made to lighting my high school musicals so that they felt as grand as a Broadway show.

"The blood, sweat and tears this man (who came from so little in a small town of Pennsylvania, where Christmas stockings were filled with oranges, and dinners were potatoes and spam) invested in my future so that I could grow up to have so much."
She went on to say that he helped turn her bathroom into a darkroom when she was 12 and "wanted to be a photographer", and put gas in her car so she could travel to auditions.

The post continued: "And that, right there, is the point: my dad taught me to find my light. And he taught me to always make my own box.
"To my dad – my thoughtful, inspiring, hardworking daddy – Happy Father’s Day. ‘If I had all the water in the world, I’d give all the water to you…’ (You won’t get that quote, but he will. And for Father’s Day, that’s all that matters)."
............
All that love and caring for her in her lifetime up to 2016 wiped out in one mistake and later frustration at being thrown out of her life for good. I think it was all just so unnecessary and very sad.

[jet]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

That stance would be acceptable if Meghan hadn’t lied to harry and the world about her father and her childhood

He gave her the best of everything, but his truth didn’t fit with what she told harry to win his heart.

100% right sheriff. That is the at the heart of the whole sorry saga.

[The Slim Reaper]

How many people in relationships have had their hearts won by the origin stories of their partners?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by jet

In a 2014 Father's Day post (just 2 years before she zoned in on Harry) on her now-defunct blog, The Tig, Meghan wrote:

"I think of so many moments with my dad. Our club sandwich & fruit smoothie tradition post my tap & ballet class - classes, which by the way, he religiously took me to on Saturday mornings after working 75+ hours a week as a lighting director.
"The fishing trips along the Kern River and Big Bear Lake to catch catfish or trout and cook it up for dinner, and the commitment he made to lighting my high school musicals so that they felt as grand as a Broadway show.

"The blood, sweat and tears this man (who came from so little in a small town of Pennsylvania, where Christmas stockings were filled with oranges, and dinners were potatoes and spam) invested in my future so that I could grow up to have so much."
She went on to say that he helped turn her bathroom into a darkroom when she was 12 and "wanted to be a photographer", and put gas in her car so she could travel to auditions.

The post continued: "And that, right there, is the point: my dad taught me to find my light. And he taught me to always make my own box.
"To my dad – my thoughtful, inspiring, hardworking daddy – Happy Father’s Day. ‘If I had all the water in the world, I’d give all the water to you…’ (You won’t get that quote, but he will. And for Father’s Day, that’s all that matters)."
............
All that love and caring for her in her lifetime up to 2016 wiped out in one mistake and later frustration at being thrown out of her life for good. I think it was all just so unnecessary and very sad.

So what? It's literally nobody but Meghans choice whether or not she has contact with her father and the fact people think they have some sort of say over that is ridiculous. She's a grown woman with her own agency. People post all sorts of stupid **** on social media, a lot of it is for show, shock horror

[Glenn.]

I mean he’s going the right way to rebuild his relationship with his daughter and grandchildren

Parasite

[jet]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

So what? It's literally nobody but Meghans choice whether or not she has contact with her father and the fact people think they have some sort of say over that is ridiculous. She's a grown woman with her own agency. People post all sorts of stupid **** on social media, a lot of it is for show, shock horror

You think that Fathers Day post was just stupid **** for show? Wow.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by jet

You think that Fathers Day post was just stupid **** for show? Wow.

"wow"? umm OK

[user104658]

Originally Posted by jet

In a 2014 Father's Day post (just 2 years before she zoned in on Harry) on her now-defunct blog, The Tig, Meghan wrote:

"I think of so many moments with my dad. Our club sandwich & fruit smoothie tradition post my tap & ballet class - classes, which by the way, he religiously took me to on Saturday mornings after working 75+ hours a week as a lighting director.
"The fishing trips along the Kern River and Big Bear Lake to catch catfish or trout and cook it up for dinner, and the commitment he made to lighting my high school musicals so that they felt as grand as a Broadway show.

"The blood, sweat and tears this man (who came from so little in a small town of Pennsylvania, where Christmas stockings were filled with oranges, and dinners were potatoes and spam) invested in my future so that I could grow up to have so much."
She went on to say that he helped turn her bathroom into a darkroom when she was 12 and "wanted to be a photographer", and put gas in her car so she could travel to auditions.

The post continued: "And that, right there, is the point: my dad taught me to find my light. And he taught me to always make my own box.
"To my dad – my thoughtful, inspiring, hardworking daddy – Happy Father’s Day. ‘If I had all the water in the world, I’d give all the water to you…’ (You won’t get that quote, but he will. And for Father’s Day, that’s all that matters)."
............
All that love and caring for her in her lifetime up to 2016 wiped out in one mistake and later frustration at being thrown out of her life for good. I think it was all just so unnecessary and very sad.

Thinking you can possibly have any understanding of other people's family circumstances (ANYONE else, who is not your own family) is a ludicrous stance. These relationships are so impossibly complex and personal that it's just daft to even pretend that you have any sort of insight.

He's her father, she doesn't want him involved. You don't need to know anything else about it, whatsoever, or about anyone elses relationship with their parents either. Here's an exhaustive list of the parental relationships you get a say in:

1) Your own relationship with your parents.
2) Your own relationship with your kids.

That's literally it.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

the fact people think they have some sort of say over that is ridiculous.

So we shouldn't have an opinion on it? What about other celebs, can we have a say on them?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by jet

So we shouldn't have an opinion on it? What about other celebs, can we have a say on them?

You can have an opinion on whatever you want, you certainly don't get a say in any celebrity's relationships with their fathers though

[user104658]

Originally Posted by jet

So we shouldn't have an opinion on it? What about other celebs, can we have a say on them?

On their personal relationships with their parents? Sure you can have a say but it will be as meaningless as it is here, becausethe snippets of people's family life that are in the public eye are barely a snapshot of those relationships.

You do it with the Royals too though I guess - insisting on what William or other family members "must" think of Harry etc. when you of course, again, have absolutely no insight into their real relationship as brothers whatsoever.

All part of the weird possessiveness some people have about this family, I guess.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

You can have an opinion on whatever you want, you certainly don't get a say in any celebrity's relationships with their fathers though

How is my opinion on a forum 'having a say' in their relationship? I didn't realize I was talking directly to Meghan or her father and interfering in their relationship. Is it fine for those with the opposite stance to mine to have an opinion?

[jet]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

"wow"? umm OK

Yet you can 'have your say' by denigrating a loving post from Meghan to her father as 'it could be just stupid **** for show".

You were having your say about their relationship that it might not be as nice as her blog post suggested - with not one iota of proof in it to go on.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by jet

How is my opinion on a forum 'having a say' in their relationship? I didn't realize I was talking directly to Meghan or her father and interfering in their relationship. Is it fine for those with the opposite stance to mine to have an opinion?

Originally Posted by jet

Yet you can 'have your say' by denigrating a loving post from Meghan to her father as 'it could be just stupid **** for show".

You were having your say about their relationship that it might not be as nice as her blog post suggested - with not one iota of proof in it to go on.

Calm down Jet, everyone can have an opinion over whatever they want You misunderstood my post that you quoted, no you chopped the sentence in half and misrepresented what I said, this was my full sentence :

It's literally nobody but Meghans choice whether or not she has contact with her father and the fact people think they have some sort of say over that is ridiculous.

Clearly what i meant here was people think they have a say in whether or not Meghan has a relationship with her father, I mean it's not even that confusing I would have thought. I didn't mean a say as in an opinion if you were confused though.

[bots]

i definitely see the enemy of my enemy is my friend going on here, because under any other circumstance the father would universally be called a knob

[jet]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Calm down Jet, everyone can have an opinion over whatever they want You misunderstood my post that you quoted, no you chopped the sentence in half and misrepresented what I said, this was my full sentence :

It's literally nobody but Meghans choice whether or not she has contact with her father and the fact people think they have some sort of say over that is ridiculous.

Clearly what i meant here was people think they have a say in whether or not Meghan has a relationship with her father, I mean it's not even that confusing I would have thought. I didn't mean a say as in an opinion if you were confused though.

I'm perfectly calm, thanks, and I'm not confused.
Same thing. People give their opinions on whether or not Meghan has a relationship with her father, for or against. That is not 'having a say', which would mean we would personally influence the outcome by direct involvement.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by jet

I'm perfectly calm, thanks, and I'm not confused.
Same thing. People give their opinions on whether or not Meghan has a relationship with her father, for or against. That is not 'having a say', which would mean we would personally influence the outcome by direct involvement.

I think what people mean is that you put your opinion across as fact

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by jet

I'm perfectly calm, thanks, and I'm not confused.
Same thing. People give their opinions on whether or not Meghan has a relationship with her father, for or against. That is not 'having a say', which would mean we would personally influence the outcome by direct involvement.

In the context of my sentence it's clearly what I meant when I said it though so don't accuse me of something I haven't said - that you're not allowed an opinion