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Money laundering set of bastards. With our money.
You must know that the military-industrial complex has a strong vested interest in supporting Israel in escalating bombing campaigns/ground invasions of Gaza and especially in escalating the conflict to Yemen, Iran, etc. Alf? Surely the anti-NWO boards are absolutely buzzing with ideas about the real motivations behind this conflict.

I haven't seen you post much on this thread though.

I suppose possible false flag hospital bombings are a bit more serious than Hunter Biden's Laptop. A bit too real.
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You can't reasonably brand people "holocaust deniers" out of right field, on a thread about Israel/Palestine, and then accuse others of baiting, Cherie. Really .
I said you sounded like....not that you were the reason they released the video is because there are people who believe Hamas didnt murder or torture anyone
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It was never about hostages, it’s about the eradication of Palestinians so Israel can take the rest of their land for itself
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These pro "Palestine" demos look very similar to BLM ones

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And the gays don't realise or appreciate that we're the one's defending them when we say that. We don't need to, but it's in our nature too, because we're civilised. They think we're the homophobes.

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I said you sounded like....not that you were the reason they released the video is because there are people who believe Hamas didnt murder or torture anyone
Yes just like there are people who don't believe that an Israeli air strike hit a hospital in Gaza: the whole conflict is saturated with misinformation and propaganda.

I'm really the opposite of a holocaust denier:

1) I believe that Hamas has committed terrorist atrocities in Israel

2) I believe that Israel has committed war crimes and deliberately targetted civilians and hospitals

Because this is a vicious conflict with no "right side of history" to be on, other than to feel empathy for the innocent people caught in the middle of a global-politican melting pot that is -- AS ALWAYS -- about land and resources, nothing else.
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Yes just like there are people who don't believe that an Israeli air strike hit a hospital in Gaza: the whole conflict is saturated with misinformation and propaganda.

I'm really the opposite of a holocaust denier:

1) I believe that Hamas has committed terrorist atrocities in Israel

2) I believe that Israel has committed war crimes and deliberately targetted civilians and hospitals

Because this is a vicious conflict with no "right side of history" to be on, other than to feel empathy for the innocent people caught in the middle of a global-politican melting pot that is -- AS ALWAYS -- about land and resources, nothing else.

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Yes just like there are people who don't believe that an Israeli air strike hit a hospital in Gaza: the whole conflict is saturated with misinformation and propaganda.

I'm really the opposite of a holocaust denier:

1) I believe that Hamas has committed terrorist atrocities in Israel

2) I believe that Israel has committed war crimes and deliberately targetted civilians and hospitals

Because this is a vicious conflict with no "right side of history" to be on, other than to feel empathy for the innocent people caught in the middle of a global-politican melting pot that is -- AS ALWAYS -- about land and resources, nothing else.
Both Biden and Sunak have said the intelligence suggests it was most likely a Hamas rocket which caused that explosion.

I suppose you'll say that's propoganda but not sure why the alternative explanation - that it was an Israeli strike - is apparently so ironclad?
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Israel bombs & destroy the Greek Orthodox Church of Saint Porphyrius in Gaza which is the THIRD OLDEST CHRISTIAN temple in the WORLD and largest one in Palestine killing 19 Christians 9 of them children.

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Both Biden and Sunak have said the intelligence suggests it was most likely a Hamas rocket which caused that explosion.

I suppose you'll say that's propoganda but not sure why the alternative explanation - that it was an Israeli strike - is apparently so ironclad?
Well of course they said that. They are after all, on the side of Israel.

Two weeks before all this started, Netanyahu showed a map during the General Assembly of the United Nations which showed permanently eliminating Gaza. The map of where once Gaza was, shows it now belonging to Israel and is called 'The New Map of the Middle East.
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An Israeli official tweeted out and took credit for Israel bombing the hospital before it was taken down so the propaganda could start being put out
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Both Biden and Sunak have said the intelligence suggests it was most likely a Hamas rocket which caused that explosion.

I suppose you'll say that's propoganda but not sure why the alternative explanation - that it was an Israeli strike - is apparently so ironclad?
Because of Occam's Razor, is the short answer. Hamas was supposedly in the hospital, Israel had made it clear that they were striking Hamas targets regardless of "human shields", Israel initially took "credit" for the attack and then withdrew and - when the extend of collateral damage was clear - changed the story to it being a Hamas misfire and/or false flag depending on who was speaking. They also released footage "proving" that it was a misfired Hamas rocket that was debunked as having been historical footage. Then removed that too.

Biden and Sunak saying it was a Hamas rocket means as little as Blair and Bush's WMD's in Iraq. Convenient fiction. I won't say it's propaganda because that's not what propaganda is.

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This is just another example of how war blinds people to reality. The UN saying that there is no fuel to run hospitals, but hamas has been stockpiling it. The UN secretary general justifying the slaughter of israeli innocents by terrorists. War clouds peoples judgements. Life is complicated, war is complicated. No-one wins in a war really. Israel will still face terror attacks even if it completely wipes out hamas. To stop it being attacked, it would need to wipe out nearly every country in the middle east.

This is why we in the west need to be super careful it doesn't escalate because it could easily be a WW3 trigger point and create massive civil unrest in the countries themselves. World demographics are in no way comparable to what was presented in WW2

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This is the trouble
some will die this week.

But Hamas must die.
the IDF demand.
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