[arista]

Live on TV News

3 of the Labours West London Starmer and his 2 Women.


With his Big Bus
it has a Fridge in it.

Starmer said to check Johnson is not near it

[arista]

Boris Johnsdons old Seat Uxbridge

Steve Tuckwell MP Won

he is facing

Danny Boy Beales Labour Party
Ian Rex-Hawkes LibDem
Tim Wheeler Reform UK
Sarah Charmian Green Green Party


on Thurs 4th July


Data : GBnewsHD

[arista]

Some New Polls
have Future Conservatives MP's under 70

Big Jump Down Rishi Dishi

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

we will see, when there is a tiny tory majority, i will be there saying i told you so

It really depends how the final week goes

Right wing journo, Tom Harwood raised a good point the other day that I actually agree with.

He said that Starmer is basically doing nothing but sh1tting on his own people at this stage, and Sunak/tories are unveiling new policy after new policy, and it's not even registering, because this isn't an election about ideas it's an election about punishment, and that's a simple way to explain why I believe you don't have this one right.

The only path to a tiny majority, is that voters are so unenthused by Starmer, that lots just vote independent/green/sit it out. But there is absolutely no forward momentum by Tories to take back some of the vote.

[The Slim Reaper]

@arista any new polls?

[bots]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Right wing journo, Tom Harwood raised a good point the other day that I actually agree with.

He said that Starmer is basically doing nothing but sh1tting on his own people at this stage, and Sunak/tories are unveiling new policy after new policy, and it's not even registering, because this isn't an election about ideas it's an election about punishment, and that's a simple way to explain why I believe you don't have this one right.

The only path to a tiny majority, is that voters are so unenthused by Starmer, that lots just vote independent/green/sit it out. But there is absolutely no forward momentum by Tories to take back some of the vote.

maybe i will be wrong and labour will romp home with the biggest majority ever, but Starmer just doesn't feel like the kind of guy to achieve that and while there may be some vocal condemnation of Sunak, the average tory will carry on voting tory irrespective of the leader, the same way that labour voters do

[arista]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

@arista any new polls?

Loads came out today.

Shocking results

Over 30 LibDems (big jump from 15MPs)
Conservatives around 68 MP's
Even Jacob could lose his seat..........

Labour over 300 MPs

Was Debated Live on LBC

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

maybe i will be wrong and labour will romp home with the biggest majority ever, but Starmer just doesn't feel like the kind of guy to achieve that and while there may be some vocal condemnation of Sunak, the average tory will carry on voting tory irrespective of the leader

It's not really about party loyalty at this stage, it's about the lived experience of 15 years.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by arista

Loads came out today.

Shocking results

Over 30 LibDems (big jump from 15MPs)
Conservatives around 68 MP's
Even Jacob could lose his seat..........

Labour over 300 MPs

Was Debated Live on LBC

Thanks for the update @arista

[arista]

Moved my post from TV Chat
Newsnight for Slim.

[Good on Victoria Derbyshire Friday Night Short Newsnight
had GBnewsHD presenter Tom Harwood in the Central London Studio
with a left-wing lady


Many times she,
Sonia Sodha (Worked for Ed Milliband)
Totally agree with younger Tom.]

[bots]

I think at one point last year they were saying that tory mp's would be down to a handful, so a figure of 68 is something the tories can work with . Provided we don't get a surge that results in reform mp's i will be quite happy.

5 years of a labour government wouldn't be the end of the world at this point. It's up to them to make it count if they do actually sweep the board

[MTVN]

It'd be so hard to come back from that level of wipeout though, look at how hard it's been for the Lib Dems since 2010. I think if the Tories were decimated they'd probably end up merging with Reform and going further right while the Lib Dems would sweep up a lot of the centre. You could end up with over a decade of Labour being in power comfortably and the opposition being split between Tory and Lib Dem

[The Slim Reaper]

I think Lab get 2 terms as a base level, because of the perceptions of Tories. The message in 5 years will be "it takes more than 5 years to undo what they did" and it will be true, and it also sounds reasonable.

Tories will be back in it again in 15 years, and they will be even more extremist at that point.

[bots]

i think we have to be prepared for similar politics to America coming over here. To me, that is the biggest threat 5 years down the road

[arista]

Also Posted by MTVN

Predicted Poll
by GBnewsHD/Daily Mail


Labour 493
Conservative 72
LibDems 39
SNP 22
Plaid 4
Green 2

[bots]

I don't believe for a moment that labour will get 493 seats .... the daily mail aren't noted for their accuracy in polling etc

[arista]

Old Michael Heseltine
now aged 91
was live on LBC Radio
the hour before.

He claims Starmer or Sunak are avoiding
Brexit talk.

He wants another Referendum
in the next 5 years?

I do not think Starmer would try that
as he wants two 5 year terms


He is right that Starmer appears to be
avoiding his Brexit Labour plans

Starmer is tense when he talks
Also, he now keeps his glasses on.

[bots]

we won't rejoin the EU in the next 20 years. We may come to some agreements quietly, under the table, but it won't be badged as joining the EU

[arista]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

I don't believe for a moment that labour will get 493 seats .... the daily mail aren't noted for their accuracy in polling etc

Sure it's an Early Poll


A Poll after the First ITV1HD TV debate (4/6/24)
would be better

[arista]

SkyNewsHD

Was near the Central London Tommy Robinson rally.


We can hear cheers.
He has a loudspeaker


A few were arrested.
Police are making sure that other groups do not
near this Rally.

So well done Police, so far.


Sad BBC avoiding this event

A Short Tweet
https://x.com/5Pillarsuk/status/1796920200224264214

Slim chucked that above tweet on a Kate thread
Chat & Games

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

we won't rejoin the EU in the next 20 years. We may come to some agreements quietly, under the table, but it won't be badged as joining the EU

Yeah I could see Labour bringing in something like this that was offered before:

The UK has rejected a EU offer that would make it easier for people aged between 18 and 30 to study and work abroad in the wake of Brexit.

The European Commission had said the deal would be a limited arrangement, not a restoration of free movement.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68848046

[arista]

[Torsten Bell, chief executive of the
Resolution Foundation think tank,
has been announced as Labour's
candidate for Swansea West]


[Welsh Labour is facing questions from
local members about general election
candidates being “parachuted” into “safe seats”.

Some local party members have raised
concerns about being kept in the dark
during the selection process.
Ceri Evans, a Labour councillor in Swansea,
said the process “flies in the face”
of assurances made by
party leader Sir Keir Starmer.

Welsh Labour said its Welsh Executive Council
and local members were part of the panel
for choosing candidates.]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cyxxw89djr7o

[arista]

Sadly new GB Energy
will not take your bills on.
So a con.

GB energy firm would secure future jobs, says Labour

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9xxpypr8d0o

[arista]

[Workers Party launches campaign with attack on Labour

[George Galloway has launched the
Workers Party of Britain's
general election campaign with an attack on Labour.

He told supporters Labour leader
Sir Keir Starmer was "indistinguishable" from
Rishi Sunak and had "blood on his hands"
over his position on Gaza.]

[Mr Galloway said his party was standing hundreds
of candidates across the country
and he would be "extremely disappointed"
if the number elected was not in double figures.

The party was founded by
Mr Galloway - a former Labour and Respect MP - in 2019
but rose to prominence after he won the
Rochdale by-election earlier this year with
a campaign dominated by his support fo
r the Palestinians during the current war
between Israel and Hamas.

In a speech in Labour deputy leader Angela Rayner's former
constituency of Ashton-under-Lyne,
Greater Manchester, Mr Galloway said: "I could not tell you
which is the lesser of the two evils – Keir Starmer
or Rishi Sunak."]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cxwwkrykv0zo

[Cherie]

I wont be surprised to see Reform/The Greens take alot of votes off Labour

There are alot of disillusioned voters out there, and like Brexit will protest vote