[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Beso

Would you be able to debate with someone called mike crispi without holding up a cheese and onion walkers.

And licking it.

I can only imagine a mentally retarded person doing that.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by arista

No.

I agree with you personally.

But it's what Trump apparently believes, yet he is still trying to win this Election, even though the establishment is apparently out to get him.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

I can only imagine a mentally retarded person doing that.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by arista

https://x.com/realTrumpNewsX/status/1827411917582791031

good on Legendary De Niro

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Also what's the point of Trump standing again, if the Elections are rigged?

Going by Trump and Alf's opinion on the last GE result.

You'll find they're only "rigged" if Trump loses. If he wins they'll have for some reason not been rigged this time, just like they forgot to rig it in 2016 .

But if Harris wins? 100% definitely rigged by deepstate communist paedophiles!!!

[user104658]

I did find the YouTube video about his golfing fascinating. Apparently all through his business career, people who have played golf with him have said, if he doesn't win a round he'll always claim that the other player cheated, or that there was something wrong with one of his golf clubs, or some other factor that meant he should have won/secretly did win even if the score says otherwise.

We all know people like this I guess. Just most of 'em don't end up running for POTUS and applying the same thinking.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy

You'll find they're only "rigged" if Trump loses. If he wins they'll have for some reason not been rigged this time, just like they forgot to rig it in 2016 .

But if Harris wins? 100% definitely rigged by deepstate communist paedophiles!!!

I really can't disagree with anything that you've said in this post.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I really can't disagree with anything that you've said in this post.

Yeah, you agree that it's only rigged if Trump loses.

Watch as much of the video as you can. It's not just Trumps victory they denied.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Alf

Yeah, you agree that it's only rigged if Trump loses.

The fact that you don't see how ludicrous and circular this logic is, is really the entire story in a nutshell. "If I win I won but if I lose I actually still secretly won" is not just childish, it's toddler-tactics.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy

I did find the YouTube video about his golfing fascinating. Apparently all through his business career, people who have played golf with him have said, if he doesn't win a round he'll always claim that the other player cheated, or that there was something wrong with one of his golf clubs, or some other factor that meant he should have won/secretly did win even if the score says otherwise.

We all know people like this I guess. Just most of 'em don't end up running for POTUS and applying the same thinking.

yes first world rich boy problems


we can already know that if Trump loses this years election, they at the capitol can start preparing to fortify everything before another invasion happens like the last one



also a vote for Trump is a vote to keep the genocide in Gaza going on and on, as he is against a ceasefire, so he isn't exactly the bringer of peace or the messiah of peace in his ''world''

[Nicky91]

also says more than enough who Trump's besties are/were

the likes of the late Jeffrey Epstein, the notorious deluded rapper Kanye West, and those arrogant pricks of Fox & Friends with ubermoron Sean Hannity leading the donald trump fanclub


and it runs in the family this level of stupidity, exhibit A: Donald Trump Jr, whom had that ''affair'' thingy with that one russian journalist or spy or whatever she is, hope he didn't leak too many state secrets to that woman back then

exhibit B: Eric Trump, aka the forgotten lost cause of a failed son in Donnie's eyes

exhibit C: Tiffany Trump, a real Daddy's Girl rotten to the core defends daddykins all the time, even more spoiled than Kylie ******* Jenner

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

also says more than enough who Trump's besties are/were

the likes of the late Jeffrey Epstein, the notorious deluded rapper Kanye West, and those arrogant pricks of Fox & Friends with ubermoron Sean Hannity leading the donald trump fanclub


and it runs in the family this level of stupidity, exhibit A: Donald Trump Jr, whom had that ''affair'' thingy with that one russian journalist or spy or whatever she is, hope he didn't leak too many state secrets to that woman back then

exhibit B: Eric Trump, aka the forgotten lost cause of a failed son in Donnie's eyes

exhibit C: Tiffany Trump, a real Daddy's Girl rotten to the core defends daddykins all the time, even more spoiled than Kylie ******* Jenner

Nasty Nicky.

All the Trump's love Jurassic Park, the Eurovison song contest and Strictly Come Dancing. And are all big fans of PSV and Fortuna Sittard.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Alf

Yeah, you agree that it's only rigged if Trump loses.

Watch as much of the video as you can. It's not just Trumps victory they denied.

But we don't want to talk about this, Alf. We just want to point out that "Orange man bad" like all the other obedient NPCs. Because that's all our masters on the television allow us to say"

[Alf]

The people's President doesn't shirk his duties.

[Maru]

Gore's loss led to rigged speculations in FL. With Barack Obama, there was Birtherism which gave way to claims that he wasn't even eligible to run. When Trump won, people wanted to throw out the Electoral College, blamed a broken system and declared it wasn't democratic enough. Then there was the disputed results in 2020 where we still see court rulings, prosecutions and investigations to this day. 2024 is guaranteed to be more of the same. When a candidate is reelected, there's usually less dispute, but I think had Biden not dropped out, we would've seen more accusations simply because it was becoming obvious he was ineligible (medically speaking).

It's not exclusively a partisan thing, either. Insider politics also play out during primaries. The Bernie Sanders, Tulsi Gabbards, etc. The special role that media plays in the success of those campaigns is also controversial. Most people see primaries as symbolic given the voting numbers for them are so low. There's almost no coverage for non-establishment candidates and there's even less coverage of candidates at a lower position of government.

We almost never see such fanfare about Congressional losses though, unless it's one or two seats that determine the outcome. Otherwise, if the Democrats/Republicans got wiped out, they "got what they deserved" and the result is considered punitive. Everyone loves a good Congressional shellacking. People hate the 50/50, though. Just about everyone hopes for and expects a clear winner.

National politics on the whole is trash though, and there are many reasons to give it adequate side eye. All this is a result of how media driven national politics is by comparison to local races. At the local level, even though coverage is less, it's relatively good faith coverage by comparison, especially by newspapers and independent sources. Donations and ad space is what determines those more often than not (and thus whether their own party likes them...). At a higher level, it's what candidate can get the most views and hits the right talking points within the current national dialogue. In other words, does the media actually want to feature them?...

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Maru

Gore's loss led to rigged speculations in FL. With Barack Obama, there was Birtherism which gave way to claims that he wasn't even eligible to run. When Trump won, people wanted to throw out the Electoral College, blamed a broken system and declared it wasn't democratic enough. Then there was the disputed results in 2020 where we still see court rulings, prosecutions and investigations to this day. 2024 is guaranteed to be more of the same. When a candidate is reelected, there's usually less dispute, but I think had Biden not dropped out, we would've seen more accusations simply because it was becoming obvious he was ineligible (medically speaking).

It's not exclusively a partisan thing, either. Insider politics also play out during primaries. The Bernie Sanders, Tulsi Gabbards, etc. The special role that media plays in the success of those campaigns is also controversial. Most people see primaries as symbolic given the voting numbers for them are so low. There's almost no coverage for non-establishment candidates and there's even less coverage of candidates at a lower position of government.

We almost never see such fanfare about Congressional losses though, unless it's one or two seats that determine the outcome. Otherwise, if the Democrats/Republicans got wiped out, they "got what they deserved" and the result is considered punitive. Everyone loves a good Congressional shellacking. People hate the 50/50, though. Just about everyone hopes for and expects a clear winner.

National politics on the whole is trash though, and there are many reasons to give it adequate side eye. All this is a result of how media driven national politics is by comparison to local races. At the local level, even though coverage is less, it's relatively good faith coverage by comparison, especially by newspapers and independent sources. Donations and ad space is what determines those more often than not (and thus whether their own party likes them...). At a higher level, it's what candidate can get the most views and hits the right talking points within the current national dialogue. In other words, does the media actually want to feature them?...

Tulsi Gabbard has stepped on board the Trump train. She knows what's going on, just like Robert Kennedy Jr.

You know that Robbie Kennedy jr is gonna be given the authority to the classified information of his father's and his Uncles assassinations, when you Americans do the right thing and vote Trump on a massive scale.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Alf

Yeah, you agree that it's only rigged if Trump loses.

Watch as much of the video as you can. It's not just Trumps victory they denied.

Who else has been denied victory?

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Alf

But we don't want to talk about this, Alf. We just want to point out that "Orange man bad" like all the other obedient NPCs. Because that's all our masters on the television allow us to say"

I'm not afraid to go against the Media if I feel that their conduct is wrong.

But I just happen to agree with them on Trump.

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Who else has been denied victory?

Stacy Abrams. Hillary Clinton. Al Gore.

Youtube video

We are sore losers. Our politics has always had crackpot theories floating around well before the internet became a major part of our discourse.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Maru

Stacy Abrams. Hillary Clinton. Al Gore.

Youtube video

We are sore losers. Our politics has always had crackpot theories floating around well before the internet became a major part of our discourse.

I was thinking more based on evidence.

But yeah people in general are sore losers, I know because I'm one of them.

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I was thinking more based on evidence.

But yeah people in general are sore losers, I know because I'm one of them.

Yeah, I don't understand the question then.

I'm of the mind the system needs tighter regulations and more thorough transparency, but only because the managing of elections has become too political. I don't want Federal oversight though... that's just asking for corrupt elections.

[Maru]

Speaking of... as I was responding I got a text about elections. It's like "Can you answer a few questions." I check the survey and it asks if I'm a registered voter. I click yes, and it's like Oops, "The quota is filled for the option you selected. Have a nice day!"

Probably innocuous, but amusingly coincidental. They must be listening to my keyboard sounds and picking up the key presses and so on etc...

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Maru

Yeah, I don't understand the question then.

I'm of the mind the system needs tighter regulations and more thorough transparency, but only because the managing of elections has become too political. I don't want Federal oversight though... that's just asking for corrupt elections.

Well Alf was talking about other candidates being "robbed" of the Presidency besides Trump, and I'm wondering who (or whom) he might be referring to.

Tbh I don't really know what system that you guys should go for, because with only two Political parties in your country, it's hard to find a neutral base that could monitor that the votes for each party are genuine votes.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Alf

Nasty Nicky.

All the Trump's love Jurassic Park, the Eurovison song contest and Strictly Come Dancing. And are all big fans of PSV and Fortuna Sittard.

doubt that


Trump fans love where the money is, fans of Paris Saint-Germain, Manchester City, Qatar Airways, all those Millionaire Fairs in Dubai

[bots]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Well Alf was talking about other candidates being "robbed" of the Presidency besides Trump, and I'm wondering who (or whom) he might be referring to.

Tbh I don't really know what system that you guys should go for, because with only two Political parties in your country, it's hard to find a neutral base that could monitor that the votes for each party are genuine votes.

Al Gore lost to Bush because of the indentation on voting cards. That was contested in the Supreme court