[GoldHeart]

Ali reminds me of Chanel from last year , both of them like to repeat the same rubbish over and over again. They also keep going around the bush before they make a point,and even then it's still not coherent nor factual.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Ali reminds me of Chanel from last year , both of them like to repeat the same rubbish over and over again. They also keep going around the bush before they make a point,and even then it's still not coherent nor factual.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Ali reminds me of Chanel from last year , both of them like to repeat the same rubbish over and over again. They also keep going around the bush before they make a point,and even then it's still not coherent nor factual.

Are you confusing Ali with Lily ??


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[Jordan.]

Remember how offended she was on Hanah's behalf when she got labelled aggressive and now she's the one labelling her as a bully

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

Remember how offended she was on Hanah's behalf when she got labelled aggressive and now she's the one labelling her as a bully

Which is why Ali is full of BS , and always has been.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

Remember how offended she was on Hanah's behalf when she got labelled aggressive and now she's the one labelling her as a bully

Ali has zero intellectual or moral consistency.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Ali has zero intellectual or moral consistency.

And the worst thing is she can't see her own hypocrisy. She was quick to label Hanah a 'bully' despite feeling offended on her behalf weeks ago ,over ' aggressive gate ' . Ali & Martha have similar traits...in acting like they have people's best interests at heart, when actually they are causing more harm & distress .

Even when Ali was talking to Khaled after the whole
" fake" accusation in the hallway, Martha felt the need to interrupt to see if Ali is " ok" ... like a ' cape and hero moment ' .

[optimisticcynic]

As a forensic psychologist she literally has a captive audience and faces minimal day to day challenge of her misguided analysis. You’re not meant to poison the well with your own bias but it seems she has absolutely no hesitation to do this, as she is emotionally invested in the hierarchy of oppression. I absolutely love that whilst being a 38yr old Consultant Forensic Psychologist, blessed in the context of western beauty standards, and likely in a comfortable economic bracket, she views herself as being oppressed in comparison to a 20yr old male of Palestinian origin in the UK who has already mentioned that he would have come on the show if they hadn’t been able to evacuate his grandmother from a warzone the week before.
Ali is a dangerous dangerous person as people listen to her assuming she’s flunking psychic.
Lily is a phenomenal actress playing a well-rehearsed role of the simpleton that the nation wishes to embrace because if we can embrace her breach of every societal expectation of an adult, then there is hope for us all.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by optimisticcynic

As a forensic psychologist she literally has a captive audience and faces minimal day to day challenge of her misguided analysis. You’re not meant to poison the well with your own bias but it seems she has absolutely no hesitation to do this, as she is emotionally invested in the hierarchy of oppression. I absolutely love that whilst being a 38yr old Consultant Forensic Psychologist, blessed in the context of western beauty standards, and likely in a comfortable economic bracket, she views herself as being oppressed in comparison to a 20yr old male of Palestinian origin in the UK who has already mentioned that he would have come on the show if they hadn’t been able to evacuate his grandmother from a warzone the week before.
Ali is a dangerous dangerous person as people listen to her assuming she’s flunking psychic.
Lily is a phenomenal actress playing a well-rehearsed role of the simpleton that the nation wishes to embrace because if we can embrace her breach of every societal expectation of an adult, then there is hope for us all.

This is a very good point actually. Considering Ali made her position known by wearing that t shirt as well you would think she'd have had a lot of interest in Khaled and his background and in spending sometime in speaking to him but instead she almost instantly took a dislike to him and told everyone he was fake. Almost as if her political stances and activism are more about being in that "group" rather than really being interested in the causes themselves

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Yeah I don't get why Martha was making out Ginger & Red is different, when red gets used alot to describe ginger. Plus 'Ginger witch ' doesn't have the same ring to it .

Ali secretly loves the drama of ' red witch ', she's milking this storyline for the rest of the BB series it seems for the whole duration .

so god help us all to keep listening to it...so I guess we'll have to keep hearing her repeat over & over again " wolf "
& " I'm the red witch" tee hee . She won't let it drop ... it's beyond boring ,even when goblin got into bed with her she said " come here little wolf" .

‘Goblin’

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by vesavius

I don't agree with the statement, but tell me what power these immigrants and working class lads of colour have that Ali doesn't have? I need someone that agrees with her to tell me how they are in any way above her in a 'hierarchy'. In what way is this educated well spoken middle class professional white woman on the bottom of it?




You do know that you can use the word 'Muslim', right? You have a used a lot of extra words there to seemingly avoid doing so.

But, she is servile and that's why she is 'tough and intimidating'? That doesn't make much sense. Can you expand on it so that I understand?

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Ali secretly LOVES the drama of ' red witch ', she's milking this storyline for the rest of the BB series it seems for the whole duration .

: .

It’s incredible how you can know Ali’s innermost thoughts and feelings ..

Such a wonderful gift …


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[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

This is a very good point actually. Considering Ali made her position known by wearing that t shirt as well you would think she'd have had a lot of interest in Khaled and his background and in spending sometime in speaking to him but instead she almost instantly took a dislike to him and told everyone he was fake. Almost as if her political stances and activism are more about being in that "group" rather than really being interested in the causes themselves

I am sure that is the case for a lot of people who support these causes, its fashionable rather than any particular interest, I would have thought she would be very interested in Khaled and his family but it seems Lily is far more so

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Zizu

It’s incredible how you can know Ali’s innermost thoughts and feelings ..

Such a wonderful gift …


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I know you are not watching Zizu but she brings it up regularly and even her gf mentioned it in the phone call

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I know you are not watching Zizu but she brings it up regularly and even her gf mentioned it in the phone call

So Ali has said she loves the drama ?


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[GoldHeart]

Wow can't believe i'm saying this but Ali actually had a nice moment with Hanah ... when she confided in her. There's strategic game play going on though, now Ali is saying to her group "lets look after Hanah" .

[Ammi]

…in all seriousness, people aren’t evil, though…(…well, except for people who are evil… )…but those aren’t generally the personality type who are on BB…like all of the housemates and like human beings, Ali is a blend …and she’s shown not so good traits but she’s also shown those good ones at times…

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Zizu

So Ali has said she loves the drama ?


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er she applied for BB so I would imagine she does

[BBXX]

I do think Ali's "we need to look after her" was innocent - it sounded suspect because she said "if she's leaning away from the boys she needs somewhere to fall" and I think all she meant was -- we don't want her to be isolated. I don't think Ali trusts Hanah properly, and I think the feeling is mutual, but I don't think Ali wants someone who was emotional for feeling isolated and lonely to feel even worse.

Her moment with Hanah was lovely.

[FromBB8]

Originally Posted by BBXX

I do think Ali's "we need to look after her" was innocent - it sounded suspect because she said "if she's leaning away from the boys she needs somewhere to fall" and I think all she meant was -- we don't want her to be isolated. I don't think Ali trusts Hanah properly, and I think the feeling is mutual, but I don't think Ali wants someone who was emotional for feeling isolated and lonely to feel even worse.

Her moment with Hanah was lovely.

What I don't like is a lack of context though. Is Hanah starting to move away from the boys and, if so why? The last we saw still seemed quite close. So much is missed when it comes to house dynamics. Sorry to bring it up but especially without live feed.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by BBXX

I do think Ali's "we need to look after her" was innocent - it sounded suspect because she said "if she's leaning away from the boys she needs somewhere to fall" and I think all she meant was -- we don't want her to be isolated. I don't think Ali trusts Hanah properly, and I think the feeling is mutual, but I don't think Ali wants someone who was emotional for feeling isolated and lonely to feel even worse.

Her moment with Hanah was lovely.

…yeah, I agree..there are two groups and divides, the housemates have no doubt about that and Hanah has been firmly with her bredrin, she’s been vocal about that….so Ali seeing her feeling so shaky and vulnerable and feeling a bit lost etc…and maybe not feeling support from her her ‘bredrin’ so much…? I think it was just a comment to say…we need to keep an eye and look after her…for me, when Ali shows more softer and caring sides, which she obviously has…?…I’ll just see it for wat it is and what her actions are in that moment…which was sweet and caring…

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by FromBB8

What I don't like is a lack of context though. Is Hanah starting to move away from the boys and, if so why? The last we saw still seemed quite close. So much is missed when it comes to house dynamics. Sorry to bring it up but especially without live feed.

I don't think she is, I think Ali misunderstood her, she was upset she hadn't jellied with any of the women, that doesn't mean she doesn't like the men she's friends with anymore

[Ammi]

…it was a moment for Hanah is all, I feel…and in that moment she said how much she missed her girls and that female thing…?..and in that moment, maybe she didn’t feel that she had her closest female connection, Sarah…and felt lost and low…as a female myself, I know sometimes I just want that female comfort and in that moment, she was feeling hurt at Sarah not saving her…I think it all had layers but I also think that it was just a moment…

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…it was a moment for Hanah is all, I feel…and in that moment she said how much she missed her girls and that female thing…?..and in that moment, maybe she didn’t feel that she had her closest female connection, Sarah…and felt lost and low…as a female myself, I know sometimes I just want that female comfort and in that moment, she was feeling hurt at Sarah not saving her…I think it all had layers but I also think that it was just a moment…

Yeah exactly, could have been some wishful thinking on Alis part too I think

[Vanessa]

I have to say, she's growing on me. She's definitely showing her more caring side and I'm all for it.