[Niamh.]

Most people are probably familiar with this one, anyone watching? I've just put on Ep 1, such an awful case, poor little girl

Youtube video

[UserSince2005]

Pointless documentary, everyone knows she is now Katy Perry.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by UserSince2005

Pointless documentary, everyone knows she is now Katy Perry.

I hadn't heard that one before

[Cherie]

I was aware of the case, but never of the circumstances around it, what the police put that family through was pretty despicable

[Ammi]

…did you finish watching it…?…I guess, although there are obviously many differences…this was kind of a Madeleine McCann case of it’s time in that the main questioning was…was it someone who came into where she was and took her or was it a ‘closer to home’ thing….i think that I recall the brother being implicated at some point but that must have gone cold as it’s still a cold case…but yeah, I know it’s not a direct comparison in some ways but it does have the vein of being the Madeleine McCann case of the time in some regards…

[Cherie]

The DNA under her fingernails did not match the family, nor the guy who said he did it, though they ruled him out but not the family...bizarre

[Ammi]

…tbh, I don’t know very much about the case other than general media stuff…I haven’t watched the series yet but I’ll try to get round to doing that at some point…I was reading an article of ‘8 possible suspects’…but that was a 2016 article and I don’t know what/if new evidence has emerged since then with updated forensics we have now…anyway…this 8 suspects were her mother, her father, her brother, Gary Oliva- ‘the town drifter’, Ollie Gray, a local electrician…John Mark Kerr…I think he confessed…?…, Linda Hoffman-Pugh - the family Housekeeper, Bill McReynolds - the ‘Town Santa’….

…it’s a bizarre case as well because if this was some type of ‘stalker killer’…a psychopath personality etc…did they never kill again…did they only ever kill JonBenet…that feels unlikely…so an ‘accidental’ killing…?…

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Pigeon Lady

…tbh, I don’t know very much about the case other than general media stuff…I haven’t watched the series yet but I’ll try to get round to doing that at some point…I was reading an article of ‘8 possible suspects’…but that was a 2016 article and I don’t know what/if new evidence has emerged since then with updated forensics we have now…anyway…this 8 suspects were her mother, her father, her brother, Gary Oliva- ‘the town drifter’, Ollie Gray, a local electrician…John Mark Kerr…I think he confessed…?…, Linda Hoffman-Pugh - the family Housekeeper, Bill McReynolds - the ‘Town Santa’….

…it’s a bizarre case as well because if this was some type of ‘stalker killer’…a psychopath personality etc…did they never kill again…did they only ever kill JonBenet…that feels unlikely…so an ‘accidental’ killing…?…

I didn't know much about it either but not to give too much away I think when you watch the documentary you will see how she was murdered could not have been accidental ...also it is unlikely a 10 year old boy her brother could have carried it out ....the also said her mother did it in a fit of rage, but again that doesn't quiet add up...to me anyway

[arista]

[it’s a bizarre case as well because if this was
some type of ‘stalker killer’…a psychopath
personality etc…did they never kill again]


With so many FBI and Cops on the case
how he will not be killing little girls
for a while....................

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Cherie Christmas

I didn't know much about it either but not to give too much away I think when you watch the documentary you will see how she was murdered could not have been accidental ...also it is unlikely a 10 year old boy her brother could have carried it out ....the also said her mother did it in a fit of rage, but again that doesn't quiet add up...to me anyway

…yeah, I think the thing with her mother and the ‘fit of rage’ theory is that no one appears to have ever seen her in a fit of rage, so as you say….that seems unlikely…I guess that the ‘most likely’…(…and again, I’m going in blind because I know very little of the story/details etc….)…would be John Mark Karr, the school teacher who confessed to having killed her…plus apparently knew some details about JonBenet’s murder that had not yet been made public…also had, had child pornography charges against him…

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by arista

[it’s a bizarre case as well because if this was
some type of ‘stalker killer’…a psychopath
personality etc…did they never kill again]


With so many FBI and Cops on the case
how he will not be killing little girls
for a while....................

…yeah of course, Arista…it was a very public case but so have been many ‘serial killer’ cases that have still gone on to kill more victims…

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Pigeon Lady

…yeah, I think the thing with her mother and the ‘fit of rage’ theory is that no one appears to have ever seen her in a fit of rage, so as you say….that seems unlikely…I guess that the ‘most likely’…(…and again, I’m going in blind because I know very little of the story/details etc….)…would be John Mark Karr, the school teacher who confessed to having killed her…plus apparently knew some details about JonBenet’s murder that had yet been made public…also had, had child pornography charges against him…

He seems the most likely suspect to me

[Vicky.]

I don't see how it could be a stranger or random pedo when you take the 'ransom note' into consideration.

I remember reading about this years back and my theory was it was the brother, and the parents helped cover it up so they didn't lose both kids. But watching Burke on doctor Phil made me doubt that a bit. Interesting case tho

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I don't see how it could be a stranger or random pedo when you take the 'ransom note' into consideration.

I remember reading about this years back and my theory was it was the brother, and the parents helped cover it up so they didn't lose both kids. But watching Burke on doctor Phil made me doubt that a bit. Interesting case tho

The brother is so weird.

[Vicky.]

https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/for...d.php?t=310241

My essay about the brother..so weird looking back on your old threads

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by ChristmasNeeve

Most people are probably familiar with this one, anyone watching? I've just put on Ep 1, such an awful case, poor little girl

Youtube video

Did you finish this Niamh? any thoughts?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie Christmas

Did you finish this Niamh? any thoughts?

I have about 20 minutes of the last episode to go, I'll finish it at lunch time and get back to you

[Niamh.]

I had looked into this case before on a Podcast I listen to, I know that people really thought Burke had something to do with it as well, maybe even more so than the parents (or at least that he accidentally killed her and they covered it up) but

Spoiler:

I just couldn't imagine the parents sexually abusing her as a way to cover up for Burke, that's mental to me

[Vicky.]

Spoiler:

I think the sexual abuse was a separate topic, and maybe to do with the party the night before

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[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Spoiler:

I think the sexual abuse was a separate topic, and maybe to do with the party the night before

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But

Spoiler:

If it was from the night before how come the same paintbrush that was used to abuse her was also used as the handle on the garrote? seems like all these things happened that night, wasn't there blood found on her underwear which would mean it happened that night?

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by ChristmasNeeve

But

Spoiler:

If it was from the night before how come the same paintbrush that was used to abuse her was also used as the handle on the garrote? seems like all these things happened that night, wasn't there blood found on her underwear which would mean it happened that night?

I didn't know that part, or had forgotten it. Think I need to watch this and rewatch the CBS one too.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I didn't know that part, or had forgotten it. Think I need to watch this and rewatch the CBS one too.

Spoiler:

I think The Netflix doc is a bit biased towards the family not being involved because as far as I remember I thought it was more of a possibility before this one (it's easy to forget details though) although the one I listened to before may have been more biased in the opposite direction

[Niamh.]

Found an old thread you started about it actually Vicky

https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/for...ey#post8993523

[Vicky.]

Yea linked that earlier

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Yea linked that earlier

Oh sorry totally missed that post duh