[ThomasC]

3 for manslaughter and two for supplying drugs.

It angers me that despite him frothing at the mouth (most likely a seizure) they dragged him to his room rather than calling for an ambulance.

There are claims he tried to escape from room over balcony. He allegedly dropped his bag (which can be seen on photos) and thought he'd climb down......

Had he not been essentially locked in a room suffering a psychotic episode he may have still been here today.

I think that the hotel was too cautious over his status and didn't want to make a scene.

https://news.sky.com/story/liam-payn...-star-13281657

[arista]

Yes Lock them Up

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes Lock them Up

And throw away the key.

[Glenn.]

I get the two for supplying (even though he asked for them) but why the three for manslaughter?

[UserSince2005]

get a grip. this druggie would have died with or without these people and their actions.

either way he would have got his drugs, just like he got his prostitutes.

also one of those charge is a man and says he had sex with him the night prior.

this boy was a mess and it was only ever going to end like this.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by ivy balls

3 for manslaughter and two for supplying drugs.

It angers me that despite him frothing at the mouth (most likely a seizure) they dragged him to his room rather than calling for an ambulance.

There are claims he tried to escape from room over balcony. He allegedly dropped his bag (which can be seen on photos) and thought he'd climb down......

Had he not been essentially locked in a room suffering a psychotic episode he may have still been here today.

I think that the hotel was too cautious over his status and didn't want to make a scene.

https://news.sky.com/story/liam-payn...-star-13281657

They should have called an ambulance immediately. Not locked him in his room.

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by Good King Glennceslas

I get the two for supplying (even though he asked for them) but why the three for manslaughter?

Erm because they locked him in a room when he was having a disturbed episode and not responsible for his actions. That's what caused his death. Therefore its manslaughter.

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by Good King Glennceslas

I get the two for supplying (even though he asked for them) but why the three for manslaughter?

Assuming it's because they dragged him by his feet and hands (there's CCTV) screenshot of this....up to his room and stood outside so he couldn't leave.

The head receptionist rings 911 saying they're worried about his welfare and him being in a room with a balcony......6 minutes later he's dead.

They should have called an ambulance in the lobby and police....waited/restrained him if aggressive until they arrived.

Mistakes happen, but to escort someone to their room like that and prevent them leaving could also constitute kidnapping.

Where's the common sense

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by ivy balls

Assuming it's because they dragged him by his feet and hands (there's CCTV) screenshot of this....up to his room and stood outside so he couldn't leave.

The head receptionist rings 911 saying they're worried about his welfare and him being in a room with a balcony......6 minutes later he's dead.

They should have called an ambulance in the lobby and police....waited/restrained him if aggressive until they arrived.

Mistakes happen, but to escort someone to their room like that and prevent them leaving could also constitute kidnapping.

Where's the common sense

Great post.

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by UserSince2005

get a grip. this druggie would have died with or without these people and their actions.

either way he would have got his drugs, just like he got his prostitutes.

also one of those charge is a man and says he had sex with him the night prior.

this boy was a mess and it was only ever going to end like this.

Ohhh piss off with your absolute shite and disrespectful use of words.

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by UserSince2005

get a grip. this druggie would have died with or without these people and their actions.

either way he would have got his drugs, just like he got his prostitutes.

also one of those charge is a man and says he had sex with him the night prior.

this boy was a mess and it was only ever going to end like this.

Disgusting post.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by ivy balls

Assuming it's because they dragged him by his feet and hands (there's CCTV) screenshot of this....up to his room and stood outside so he couldn't leave.

The head receptionist rings 911 saying they're worried about his welfare and him being in a room with a balcony......6 minutes later he's dead.

They should have called an ambulance in the lobby and police....waited/restrained him if aggressive until they arrived.

Mistakes happen, but to escort someone to their room like that and prevent them leaving could also constitute kidnapping.

Where's the common sense

So an ambulance was called then. And it seems he was put in his room because he was making a scene.

[ThomasC]

He didn't die from drugs

He died from blunt force trauma

The drugs is an aggravating factor.

Had they have sought him help sooner he might have still been here today.

Hence manslaughter charges

The hotel was more bothered about the fuss it would have created so didn't act sooner. They know all this stuff goes on.. a hotel worker allegedly supplied him some of the drugs.

He wanted out of that hotel room even if that meant trying to climb down, unfortunately we all know how that ended

[Glenn.]

He didn’t mean to climb down at all. He fell. CCTV confirmed. He wasnt trying to escape his room

He would have tried to save himself but that didn’t happen. Just went whack

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by ivy balls

He didn't die from drugs

He died from blunt force trauma

The drugs is an aggravating factor.

Had they have sought him help sooner he might have still been here today.

Hence manslaughter charges

The hotel was more bothered about the fuss it would have created so didn't act sooner. They know all this stuff goes on.. a hotel worker allegedly supplied him some of the drugs.

He wanted out of that hotel room even if that meant trying to climb down, unfortunately we all know how that ended

like a drink driver did not die from a drink

it was the tree?

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by Good King Glennceslas

So an ambulance was called then. And it seems he was put in his room because he was making a scene.

Ok

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by Good King Glennceslas

He didn’t mean to climb down at all. He fell. CCTV confirmed. He was trying to escape his room

How else do you escape your room if there's someone outside the front door stopping you..... You have contradicted yourself in your own post

[Kate!]

An ambulance was not called.

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by Christmas Dynamo

like a drink driver did not die from a drink

it was the tree?

No because that's not a causation.

Causation of death is the injury or disease.

So it would have been the injury received from hitting the tree.

[Benjamin]

Liam is still ultimately responsible for his own death.

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by Cranbenny Jamin

Liam is still ultimately responsible for his own death.

Tell that to the judge

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by ivy balls

How else do you escape your room if there's someone outside the front door stopping you..... You have contradicted yourself in your own post

Read the edited post

He wasn’t trying to escape. He fell unconscious and fell. CCTV confirmed.

If the bloke wasn’t high as a kite he would still be alive. The drugs aren’t the aggravating factor here they were the sole reason.

[Kate!]

Dearie me. Poor Liam. Where's the empathy and understanding fgs. He should have been sectioned for his own safety. He'd still be here.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by ivy balls

Tell that to the judge

I don’t need to. He was an adult. He chose to take drugs. That’s on him. Had those people charged not supplied them to him he would have sought them elsewhere.

I don’t disagree with drug dealers being charged btw, but Liam is the overall one that cost himself his own life.

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by Good King Glennceslas

Read the edited post

He wasn’t trying to escape. He fell unconscious and fell. CCTV confirmed.

If the bloke wasn’t high as a kite he would still be alive. The drugs aren’t the aggravating factor here they were the sole reason.

Well we will certainly disagree on it being the sole reason.

Aggravating factor is something that makes it more of a crime.

He was already high on drinks and drugs. He was then essentially locked in his room when he wasn't of sound mins. His room was 3 floors high