[Livia]

When Winston Churchill visited the White House during World War 2, he wore a Siren Suit. No one had a problem with it. Mind you, the office of the President of the United States had some gravitas and respect back then.


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[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Trump and Vance wear suits and look at the rotten individuals they are presenting themselves as.
More despots than statesmen.

You can’t polish a turd

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

You can’t polish a turd

You can fasten a tie around one though.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Livia

You can fasten a tie around one though.

True

[Niamh.]

Please stick to the thread topic which isn't other Forum Members

[arista]

Originally Posted by Livia

When Winston Churchill visited the White House during World War 2, he wore a Siren Suit. No one had a problem with it. Mind you, the office of the President of the United States had some gravitas and respect back then.


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Yes was on the News.

[arista]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Trump and Vance wear suits and look at the rotten individuals they are presenting themselves as.
More despots than statesmen.

Yes
One photo had JD Vance
seated but his trousers were too short

[arista]

Zelensky has now stated
he is now ready to sign it.

All Media.


Good News

[arista]

PM Starmer has phone called
President Zelensky,

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Livia

Trump's view of Ukraine and what the USA should be entitled to for aid is not a surprise. The USA never come out of any war in the red. They always make a profit. Remember, we've not had a word from Putin since this latest charade kicked off. Trump is Putin's mouthpiece and biggest supporter.

The office of PresIdent of the USA used to have some gravitas to the office. Trump's turned it into a trailer park circus. Again.

The Krelim have responded now applauding the USA for pausing weapons and indicating this could push Kiev towards peace, the gaslighting is off the scale

[bots]

i think what europe will do is quietly start excluding the usa from the discussion. It's compromised top to bottom

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by bots

i think what europe will do is quietly start excluding the usa from the discussion. It's compromised top to bottom

"Europe" does not exist

a cabal of leftist fantasists at best, propped up by MSM lies

[bots]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

"Europe" does not exist

a cabal of leftist fantasists at best, propped up by MSM lies

keep slurping Donald's cool aide, but please check for lumpy bits

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by bots

i think what europe will do is quietly start excluding the usa from the discussion. It's compromised top to bottom

I personally doubt that but would actually love to think you're right bots

The USA with this unhinged madman there for the next just under 4 years.
Really cannot be trusted or relied on in my view.
You cannot just keep giving in to someone who doesn't want to hear what people really think.
All he wants is to state what he intends to do then only hear from everyone else, yes sir.

No contradiction, no disagreements and no negativity.
You cannot or shouldn't deal with or rely on characters like that.

However you've a better knowledge than myself on conflicts plus relationships between Nations..
So I hope you are right.
Because in my view Trump is dangerously unhinged and extremely volatile.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

The USA with this unhinged madman there for the next just under 4 years.

They have a clear intent to permanently manipulate US democracy; it won't be Trump (because he's getting old) but I think the chances of anyone coming in to replace him who isn't cut from the same cloth get slimmer by the day - and he's been in less than two months. In four years? I just don't see it.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy

They have a clear intent to permanently manipulate US democracy; it won't be Trump (because he's getting old) but I think the chances of anyone coming in to replace him who isn't cut from the same cloth get slimmer by the day - and he's been in less than two months. In four years? I just don't see it.

I think you are more than likely right too.
It's really concerning.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by bots

i think what europe will do is quietly start excluding the usa from the discussion. It's compromised top to bottom

Let's see what stops the war. The EUs weapons, or the Americans diplomacy with Russia.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Beso

Let's see what stops the war. The EUs weapons, or the Americans diplomacy with Russia.

America's "diplomacy" with Russia involves granting Russia a boatload of their war goals. Of course it's likely to stop the war? WW2 could have been stopped over night... all we had to do was surrender. Are you saying we should have done that, Herr Parmy?

[arista]

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy

They have a clear intent to permanently manipulate US democracy; it won't be Trump (because he's getting old) but I think the chances of anyone coming in to replace him who isn't cut from the same cloth get slimmer by the day - and he's been in less than two months. In four years? I just don't see it.

Vance is far more dangerous than Trump, at least Trump has the courage of his convictions which is fair enough, Vance on the other hand has just seen a bandwagon to jump on to further his career, and he will literally say or do anything to do just that

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Beso

Let's see what stops the war. The EUs weapons, or the Americans diplomacy with Russia.

Oh Parm, there is no diplomacy, that should cut both ways..you cant use diplomacy for Russia and bullying for Ukraine ....surely it should be diplomacy for both.. the USA are fully in bed with the Kremlin make no mistake

[arista]

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by arista

kinda interesting he is signing with a pencil....

[Cherie]

Donald Trump has made history with record-breaking low approval ratings despite his recent jibes over Volodymyr Zelensky's poll numbers.

A majority of Americans disapprove of Mr Trump just weeks into his chaotic return to the White House. Polling from Gallup taken between February 3 and 16 show 51 per cent of Americans disprove of him compared to 45 per cent who approve.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...0263c3e7&ei=30

[Cherie]

The above will slide even further when their 401 start to unravel