[arista]

Shocking as it was taking off


Black Smoke


https://news.sky.com/story/fireball-...ashes-13396214


Hit the Ground
around 4PM
Sky News reported

[Crimson Dynamo]

Plane 'was travelling to the Netherlands'

[Cherie]

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...e976150b3&ei=8

[arista]

As it hit the ground

[arista]

[arista]

The Type of Plane




From this link
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...d-Airport.html

[arista]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

Plane 'was travelling to the Netherlands'

Could be Locals
or a nice Holiday

[arista]

Good on SkyNewsHD

Showing the Smoke
with a Sports match in the next field


BBCnewsHD is pathetic
just showing a stock photo of the airport.

[arista]

The MP speaking Live on SkyNewsHD
said do not speculate?

NO
I will put 12 Feared Dead


Bugger you

[arista]

SkyNewsHD reports
its a sub section, of the Airport.

Dutch Company owns this plane.

Let's hope our Nicky has an update


The Nearby Rugby Club
and Golf Club
have now ended their session early.

[arista]

2 other planes were due to land there,
they have now landed in Gatwick.

[Ammi]

…another devastating/tragic aircraft incident…and for those on the ground watching also and waving to the pilot and then watching it all become a fireball…incredibly tragic…

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by arista

SkyNewsHD reports
its a sub section, of the Airport.

Dutch Company owns this plane.

Let's hope our Nicky has an update


The Nearby Rugby Club
and Golf Club
have now ended their session early.

we don't know as for now who was on board of that jet, if it were tourists, or some high profile VIP

[arista]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

we don't know as for now who was on board of that jet, if it were tourists, or some high profile VIP

Sky News said it could be a Medical Plane
so well less people in it.


I do hope the People behind this plane
give a update soon.

[arista]

Confirmed all 4 on the plane died


News conference 3PM

[Nicky91]

since this plane veered to the left after takeoff, my initial thoughts are this could be a case of assymetric thrust

[Nicky91]

It reached a maximum altitude of just 175 feet before losing control.

The aircraft had a vertical speed of only 129 feet per minute and a ground speed of 96 knots, which is unusually low for a climb phase

so this could be either

1) improper center of gravity due to overloading, since it was a medical transport aircraft, it might've been carrying specialized equipment, possibly even a stretcher, and if the weight was not balanced properly, this could lead to a loss of control

2) Mechanical or Flight System Faults: either failure of one engine—especially at low altitude—requires precise corrective input? or A misconfigured rudder trim, flap setting, or even a stuck control input could turn fatal that quickly.

3) Pilot Actions and Condition: Were the pilots fatigued or under stress? Any preexisting health issues could also play a role in reaction times. like with TAROM flight 371

4) Environmental and External Factors: The weather was reportedly clear, but wind shear or even bird strike can’t be ruled out yet. or Any obstruction near the runway? Fuel contamination?

[Nicky91]

also witnesses saw the pilots waving at people before departure, so much for a sterile cockpit then


especially at takeoff, you need full attention at takeoff and nothing else

[Nicky91]

fatigue could play a role

i mean from Athens to Pula, 2 hours and 10 minutes

Pula ground operations (unloading, loading and refueling) 40 minutes

Pula to London, 2 hours and 20 minutes


thats a total of 5 hours and 10 minutes, which would've given them 2 hours and something for rest and a meal



hmmmm that is quite a workload for these pilots

[Nicky91]

how about if there were a couple of full oxygen tanks on board?

More weight → higher drag → slower acceleration → lower rate of climb, especially at high engine loads.

If tanks were installed hastily or unevenly, you could get asymmetric roll or sluggish pitch response.

and

CG Shift Possibilities

If tanks are stored in the aft cabin or rear luggage bay, CG shifts rearward, which can:

Delay rotation during takeoff

Make the aircraft more pitch-sensitive or unstable

.


could also be a probable cause

[Nicky91]

they used up approx. 3.500-4.000 feet of runway before they took off


normally a aircraft of this size takes up 2.500-3.000 feet of the runway in normal circumstances



so was it too heavy?

[Nicky91]

it were dutch pilots, and one of the passengers was a nurse named Maria, it was her first time being a nurse on board this medical transport

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

it were dutch pilots, and one of the passengers was a nurse named Maria, it was her first time being a nurse on board this medical transport

…yeah I read that earlier…her first day on her job…/…31yrs old…at the moment not all identities have been confirmed, I believe…

[Ammi]

Maria Fernanda Rojaz Ortiz…

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

it were dutch pilots, and one of the passengers was a nurse named Maria, it was her first time being a nurse on board this medical transport

Such a tragedy, they had just dropped off a patient