[Crimson Dynamo]

A police force failed to act impartially when it allowed officers to take part in
a Gay Pride and transgender rights march, a court has ruled.

Linzi Smith, 34, a gender-critical lesbian, brought a case against Northumbria
Police after officers, including Vanessa Jardine, the head of the force, took
part in last year’s parade in Newcastle.

Ms Smith argued that it was wrong to allow uniformed officers to actively
participate in an event that promoted gender ideology and was supported by
transgender activists.

Responding to the ruling, Ms Smith said: “I am delighted with the judgment
of the court. It is terrifying to live in a community where the police have
abandoned their duty of impartiality and embraced a highly controversial
political cause.”



In the legal claim, officers were accused of joining in the march; stationing a
police van decked out in Pride colours at the event and associating with
messaging that supported gender ideology.

The hearing was told there was also a Northumbria Police static display
staffed by uniformed officers and a transgender Pride flag incorporating the
force’s insignia.

Ms Smith argued that while she accepted it was necessary for the Pride
march to be policed it was wrong for officers to actively participate because it
breached their professional oath to operate with impartiality.

The court also heard how during the march there were pro-Palestinian
protesters chanting slogans such as: “From the River To The Sea, Palestine
Will Be Free”, “No Pride in Genocide” and “Toute le monde deteste la police”.



“Pride is political in the same way that any protest is political. Police
engagement should therefore be solely operational. No lanyards, flags,
whistles or painted cars. Just good, honest bobbies remaining polite and
keeping the peace.”



https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...h-judge-rules/

[Cherie]

Makes sense

[BBXX]

It's giving Turkeys voting for Christmas.

Sad to see now that Linzi has a foot on the acceptance ladders she's pulling it up for those who don't. Seek help.

The police have historically been instrumental in oppressing LGBT people, so visibility at supporting them is simply readdressing the balance.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Makes sense

another victory for common sense and thankfully a precedent now that will be upheld

no more pathetic rainbow police cars or embarrassing displays at "pride marches"

I am sure police officers will be relieved and delighted by this

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Makes sense

Makes perfect sense. I hate seeing the publicly funded police join in with any protest or parade, like seeing them do the macarena at Notting Hill. If you want to take part, wait till you're off duty then you can do what you like.

[Ammi]

…how so much has become so divisive and regressing in recent/current times…almost a decade ago at London Pride a Met officer proposed to his partner and that ‘impartiality’ was viewed in a completely positive way…it’s very sad how isolated, some society mindsets appear to be leaning…

Youtube video

[Mystic Mock]

Tbh I don't really understand the issue here?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Linzi 🖤🤍@RightNUFC

🚨 Further Statement Regarding My High Court Victory VS CC Vanessa
Jardine And Northumbria Police 🚨

Today I have instructed my solicitors to write to the Chief Constable of
Northumbria Police to threaten further legal action if she authorises officers
to visibly participate in Northern Pride 2025. Despite a clear and damning
judgment of her decision to authorise officers to participate in Pride 2024 she
has authorised off-duty officers wearing T-shirts that show they are officers to
participate in Pride 2025. This is plainly unlawful and I will take legal action if
she does not rescind that authorisation. Her public statements in the light of
the ruling show a complete absence of reflection on a judgement that was
highly critical of her deeply flawed decision regarding Pride 2024 – a decision
that caused her and her officers to breach their professional duties. It would
appear that she and the Northumbria force have been completely captured by
a controversial political campaign.

The Police are NOT above the law.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Tbh I don't really understand the issue here?

The police are funded by the public. They should not be joining in with ANY parade or march they are being paid, by the public, to police.

[Liam-]

You can guarantee if they joined in on an anti-immigration march the same folks would be congratulating them for being ‘brave’, some people just won’t be happy until society gets back to openly accepted hostility towards gay people

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Liam-

You can guarantee if they joined in on an anti-immigration march the same folks would be congratulating them for being ‘brave’, some people just won’t be happy until society gets back to openly accepted hostility towards gay people

You have imagined two situations that have not occurred and then got angry about both of them

[Livia]

I want the police impartial. They should not take part in any marches. Ever.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Livia

I want the police impartial. They should not take part in any marches. Ever.

Yes

It seems obvious tbh


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[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Livia

The police are funded by the public. They should not be joining in with ANY parade or march they are being paid, by the public, to police.

I'm assuming that they are there primarily to Police tbf.

I would understand it more if the Police were openly taking sides in the Israel vs. Palestine protests (which I know has happened tbf,) because the Police need to de-escalate situations like those, and the UK Police have sometimes failed at that.

But it's a Pride event, it's not really harming anyone.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I'm assuming that they are there primarily to Police tbf.

I would understand it more if the Police were openly taking sides in the Israel vs. Palestine protests (which I know has happened tbf,) because the Police need to de-escalate situations like those, and the UK Police have sometimes failed at that.

But it's a Pride event, it's not really harming anyone.

There is no difference. They're there to police the event, same as any other event they police. They can be friendly, supportive, approachable... But they have a job to do. If they want to take part, fine. But not while they're on duty.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I'm assuming that they are there primarily to Police tbf.

I would understand it more if the Police were openly taking sides in the Israel vs. Palestine protests (which I know has happened tbf,) because the Police need to de-escalate situations like those, and the UK Police have sometimes failed at that.

But it's a Pride event, it's not really harming anyone.

So no women have been harmed recently Mock, you can't think of a single case where a woman has been suspended or worse lost her job for being gender critical?

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I'm assuming that they are there primarily to Police tbf.

I would understand it more if the Police were openly taking sides in the Israel vs. Palestine protests (which I know has happened tbf,) because the Police need to de-escalate situations like those, and the UK Police have sometimes failed at that.

But it's a Pride event, it's not really harming anyone.

It’s harming the bigots to see lgbt people so openly accepted

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Liam-

It’s harming the bigots to see lgbt people so openly accepted

the legal action was taken by a Lesbian




at least read the opening post!!

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

the legal action was taken by a Lesbian




at least read the opening post!!

LGBT people can also be bigots. Internalised homophobia is a thing, and some LGB folks are anti trans. Hope that helps.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

the legal action was taken by a Lesbian




at least read the opening post!!

Lesbians have suffered with the trans madness but hey, they're just women. It seems to me that trans ideology is heavily supported by gay men.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Livia

Lesbians have suffered with the trans madness but hey, they're just women. It seems to me that trans ideology is heavily supported by gay men.

almost exclusively

and by 20 odd year old middle class white straight women, it seems

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Livia

Lesbians have suffered with the trans madness but hey, they're just women. It seems to me that trans ideology is heavily supported by gay men.

lol the biggest support for trans people comes from women.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by BBXX

lol the biggest support for trans people comes from women.

Yeah, right.

[Crimson Dynamo]

In his ruling at the High Court in Leeds, Mr Justice Linden agreed and said it
was ‘contrary to the uniformed officers’ duties of impartiality’, as well as the
chief constable Vanessa Jardine’s ‘own duty of impartiality, to participate in the
2024 march in the way that they did’

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Livia

Yeah, right.

Thank you for confirming.

The latest polling suggests that while overall support for trans people is decreasing across the board, women are consistently, and always have been, more supportive than men.