[vesavius]

Or has he sold himself as 'just a music teacher'?

I mean, I guess that you would have a certain type of plotting and sneaky mind to write that kind of book and he is afraid they will see through him a bit more?

"I haven't got the intellect to be a game player"... It's literally his job.

[Ammi]

…I just can’t see any correlation between Richard having written some mystery plots and having a sneaky mind…plots/characters etc …much of that skill is in research, I would say…and some/many/maybe most writers will in their own personality traits etc, be the exact opposite of their characters and plots…all of the time and every day/in every way/type thing, we can and do feel surprise in discovering what someone’s job is because it doesn’t reflect their character…one of my brothers used to be a barrister, he’s the most un-barrister of people outside of his work but was very barrister within it when he did it…Richard hasn’t in any way placed and invented ‘protagonists and antagonists’ and plots and twists …those are all self invented by the housemates or engineered by BB…hmmmmmm, maybe he’ll write a Caroline type character into one of his future works…or maybe he would think…nope, that character would be too ***ing boring……

[Jordan.]

I don't believe he's mentioned it and heaven forbid anyone question his motives in there, the bullying card is now getting thrown around by his fans

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Or has he sold himself as 'just a music teacher'?

I mean, I guess that you would have a certain type of plotting and sneaky mind to write that kind of book and he is afraid they will see through him a bit more?

"I haven't got the intellect to be a game player"... It's literally his job.

I’m sure at the very start he mentioned to them he’s a writer. I’m not 100% certain though.

[Oliver_W]

When he (re)told the Six Word Story he said he was a writer. But I think it went over a lot of their heads, as they were focused on trying to work out it's sad that someone was trying to sell unworn baby shoes.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

When he (re)told the Six Word Story he said he was a writer. But I think it went over a lot of their heads, as they were focused on trying to work out it's said that someone was trying to sell unworn baby shoes.

That’s right! He did. I forgot he said it then.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

When he (re)told the Six Word Story he said he was a writer. But I think it went over a lot of their heads, as they were focused on trying to work out it's said that someone was trying to sell unworn baby shoes.

Originally Posted by Benjamin

That’s right! He did. I forgot he said it then.

…that’s a thread topic in itself…what would Richard’s Six Word BB Story be for Caroline…(…or any of the housemates…)…

[Cherie]

yes he has mentioned it, but they are so interested in their sex lives its evaded them, and its better just to say he is a teacher, because being writer would be too much for this lot

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

I don't believe he's mentioned it and heaven forbid anyone question his motives in there, the bullying card is now getting thrown around by his fans

Do you need a safe space?

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…I just can’t see any correlation between Richard having written some mystery plots and having a sneaky mind…

You have to think a certain way to write books like that... It takes a devious mindset to do so.

There is a reason he is keeping it on the downlow after all.. He is fully aware of the implications of it as a job and so is posing as just a music teacher. He next to never talks about his writing.

Everything about Richard is manufactured.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

I don't believe he's mentioned it and heaven forbid anyone question his motives in there, the bullying card is now getting thrown around by his fans

Oh, good grief... Really?

I suspect he would love that.

[Vanessa]

I don't think he sees himself as particularly smart. Hes just a normal bloke.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I don't think he sees himself as particularly smart. Hes just a normal bloke.

I believe that this is his manufactured fake persona... Humble quiet normal guy is his game.

But, we have seen it slip at points, but his supporters seem to slide right over those moments and ignore them.

I do think think he is playing well, but I also think his whole schtick is contrived and deeply manipulative.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by vesavius

I believe that this is his manufactured fake persona... Humble quiet normal guy is his game.

But, we have seen it slip at points, but his supporters seem to slide right over those moments and ignore them.

I do think think he is playing well, but I also think his whole schtick is contrived and deeply manipulative.

Of course hes an intelligent man. But he's more of an observer. Just not a loud kind of guy.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Of course hes an intelligent man. But he's more of an observer. Just not a loud kind of guy.

An observer and plotter and, I would say, manipulator.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by vesavius

An observer and plotter and, I would say, manipulator.

No thats caroline.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

No thats caroline.

No, caroline is too stupid to be that. Her game is too obvious and, frankly, stupid. It would have failed already if not for the saves she has had.

She plays her game right out in the open and everyone can see it. I don't like her, but she does not rely on manipulation of others at all. In fact, she is objectively terrible at that.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by vesavius

No, caroline is too stupid to be that. Her game is too obvious and, frankly, stupid. It would have failed already if not for the saves she has had.

She plays her game right out in the open and everyone can see it. I don't like her, but she does not rely on manipulation of others at all. In fact, she is objectively terrible at that.

She's far more clever and calculating than people think.
She's totally manipulating others in there. Trying to turn them against Richard, who se sees as a threat.
She wants to win by any means necessary

[millyrose]

She has manipulated Sam and Nancy and even Emily and Jenny to a certain degree

[millyrose]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

She's far more clever and calculating than people think.
She's totally manipulating others in there. Trying to turn them against Richard, who se sees as a threat.
She wants to win by any means necessary

Spot on

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by millyrose

She has manipulated Sam and Nancy and even Emily and Jenny to a certain degree

She's very devious and now is trying to manipulate Emily into her way of thinking about Richard

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

She's far more clever and calculating than people think.
She's totally manipulating others in there. Trying to turn them against Richard, who se sees as a threat.
She wants to win by any means necessary

She does want to win by any means necessary, and she is playing hard. 100% agree.

But there is a difference in manipulating others and them naturally eventually seeing the same thing in a person as you do, which is what has happened with the dullards Sam and Nancy regarding Richard.

Others are simply starting to put the pieces together regarding him, and I think Farida talking about his popularity outside has helped that.

Left to it on her own and Caroline couldn't manipulate a light switch.

[vesavius]

Richard's game is largely based on manipulating the audience and I think some have simply fallen for that and can't see past it.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Richard's game is largely based on manipulating the audience and I think some have simply fallen for that and can't see past it.

Oh, I absolutely believe he’s playing a game, and good on him. It is a game. I feel like him, Caroline and Teja are the only ones who actually remember it’s a game to be played.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

Oh, I absolutely believe he’s playing a game, and good on him. It is a game. I feel like him, Caroline and Teja are the only ones who actually remember it’s a game to be played.

See, how I have always seen it, and it's why I hated winners like Aaron, is when a HM plays the public and not the house.

It's a difference most don't seem to recognise, but I do...

I love game players in the house, I agree it is 100% a game and should be played. but I prefer Carol (I don't like her though) over Rich because she is playing the game in the house, not relying on manipulating and being dishonest with the public.

Part of it is that I feel that HMs that rely on playing the public never show us who they really are and, for me, seeing the real person is at the core of BB.