[Fom]

Originally posted by JohnnyBB
im getting worried now cause its looking more likely that its going to get axed mid way if tonight is awfull id be very scared over at channel 4!!

The series won't get axed, the ratings are fine. Just not as much as previous series... still better than other program's.

Doubt live feed is coming back, they are just meeting to address the complaints and prove they are not ignoring them, if they think its what is best they will do that.

[President]

Originally posted by A55A551N
Any chance I can get a source link for this particular story on ibb here? Or, if Jacob could come over here and confirm this at all?

Go on ibb it's in the second banana story.

Read Jacob's comments.

[andyman]

Originally posted by Dezzy
I'd be surprised if they actually put more live feed on the schedules. Scheduling is ussually done months in advance, It'd be surprising if they changed the E4 schedules to fit in more Live Feed,

No need to, E4 stays the same and the red button shows the live feed 6pm - 6am would not break the bank.
That is a good middle ground to make Channel 4 and viewers happy.

[Jack_]

I don't really think it'll be coming back though, I mean just look at how C4 have treated the show so far. They really need to think carefully because Big Brother is one of their biggest shows, and I think it's time they took into consideration that the fans want it back, and without the fans there would be no Big Brother.

I think they need to think about how much effort is being put into this series by Endemol, and how it looks so far to be one of the best series, IMO anyway.

[A55A551N]

Originally posted by President

Go on ibb it's in the second banana story.

Read Jacob's comments.

Yeah I have NO idea where that is? lol

[President]

Originally posted by A55A551N

Yeah I have NO idea where that is? lol

http://tinyurl.com/nyds6l

Scroll down to the comments. You should see it.

[kirsty123]

hi i really hope they do somthing about the live feed even if its just a couple of hs a day but be great 24/7 im really missing it it don't feel the same all we see is them at night

[Stentionhouse]

Originally posted by President
How low would the ratings need to go for mid series axing?

I've heard an average of 1.8m. If it goes sub 1m for a week, it'll be pulled for sure.

[hullbb]

Originally posted by A55A551N

Yeah I have NO idea where that is? lol

inside big brother(ibb)

[President]

Originally posted by Stentionhouse

I've heard an average of 1.8m. If it goes sub 1m for a week, it'll be pulled for sure.

It's averaging around 2-3 million at the moment (higher 2's).

So it looks like it will be fine.

Unless there's another mass switch off.

[Stentionhouse]

Originally posted by Tom

Oh stop being so melodramatic. Shameless doesn't get pulled half way through because it only gets 2.5m and thats a much more expensive show.

Yes, but they can sell Shameless all over the world, and do. BBUK is a current thing and won't ever be repeated or sold to other markets.

[arista]

Originally posted by JohnnyBB
Insider jacob says..

I’ve just heard from another production member that one of our producers is meeting a Channel 4 bigwig regarding the live feed situation.

Despite giving out a clear reason on the website for the reduction of live feed, we’re still receiving a lot of complaints every single day.

The problem isn’t at our end, but it’s Channel 4’s decision. We want the fans to enjoy the whole Big Brother experience and ideally that would include the live feed. However due to certain goals that Channel 4 have outside of our control, it’s not currently possible to offer the service.

It’s important to know, though, that this is not a “crisis meeting” or what have you. We’ve been happy about how the series has gone so far, but it’s important that the complaints are being addressed. It’s been the most complained about topic to Channel 4 over the last three months.

I am seriously not sure.

I know a lot of the staff including myself are angry about the negative reaction the show is getting especially by the big fans. Naturally we’re used to negative publicity by the wider public, but not my our own fans to such an extent.

We’re working harder than ever to produce a brilliant series. I think many will appreciate that the full house is extraordinary and a lot of work has gone into making it that good.

All I know is that the main topic of discussion for the meeting will be the complaints about the live feed. The likelihood is that Channel 4 won’t budge. Even if they did, the service would not be reinstated immediately, it would take time.

They could say New from today
Ł3.99 a week
for 24/7 Uncut.
Brought to the Public by High Demand for this.

[=-Incognito-=]

Good news! We've known for some time that Endemol weren't happy about the situation and this looks like a concerted effort to put pressure on C4 or at least divert the complaints to the correct source.

But is it too late?

[A55A551N]

Thanks Pres!

As Jacob says though he doubts C4 Will budge >.<

[Stentionhouse]

Originally posted by Fom

The series won't get axed, the ratings are fine. Just not as much as previous series... still better than other program's.

Doubt live feed is coming back, they are just meeting to address the complaints and prove they are not ignoring them, if they think its what is best they will do that.

Ratings are NOT fine. Edgar-Jones said 3m average needed for the show to continue. Needs at the very least 2.5m to be viable. Yes, other C4 shows get far fewer viewers, but they also cost a fraction to make.

Nope, things are seriously on the slide. The LF will return - or BB will be pulled.

[Patrick]

Originally posted by President

It was the second least watched Saturday highlights show ever- why can't you understand that?!

The 1st Saturday highlights show is usually one of the highest for Saturdays in the entire series. It is downhill from now on.

You can't compare it to BB1- that's absurd. Because BB1 was a completely new programme which no one knew about. Utterly stupid comparing it to that.

ugh, People are accually haven a small bit of hope of LF returning, why are you being so negetive!

[Tom]

Originally posted by President

It was the second least watched Saturday highlights show ever- why can't you understand that?!

The 1st Saturday highlights show is usually one of the highest for Saturdays in the entire series. It is downhill from now on.

You can't compare it to BB1- that's absurd. Because BB1 was a completely new programme which no one knew about. Utterly stupid comparing it to that.

It wasn't the least watched by a huge margin though was it? And series' buck ratings trends all the time, there is no reason why BB10 can't do the same.

Originally posted by President

Don't be so ridiculous.

The xpectations for Shameless are completely different to BB.

What you say sometimes is totally absurd.

Expectations and levels of profitability are two different things. The show will stay on air as long as it is profitable, and even if the ratings go below 2m, as it is a very cheap show to produce it will still be profitable, just not as profitable.

[Stentionhouse]

Originally posted by A55A551N
Thanks Pres!

As Jacob says though he doubts C4 Will budge >.<

They'll budge. They're already sh*tting themselves because they thought just a few sad cases would be protesting...and instead they've got a massive backlash on their hands. C4 have a duty to their shareholders and are a public service broadcaster - no way are they getting public money if they continue to ride roughshod over their viewers. The govt. is watching them and they know it. This is an unmitigated PR disaster for Channel 4.

[bigfan]

Originally posted by Tom


Oh stop being so melodramatic. Shameless doesn't get pulled half way through because it only gets 2.5m and thats a much more expensive show.

BB only pulled in 2.1m last night including 4+ that's the lowest viewing figure ever for a Saturday night.

I think they will pull it, unless they do something dramatic to get the viewers back on side, but I don't think Ch4 care about the show any way.

Cant see them back tracking on the live feed issue.

[Tom]

Originally posted by Stentionhouse

Yes, but they can sell Shameless all over the world, and do. BBUK is a current thing and won't ever be repeated or sold to other markets.

You're wrong, Endemol have sold BB3 and 4 to Poland.

[President]

Originally posted by Tom
Expectations and levels of profitability are two different things. The show will stay on air as long as it is profitable, and even if the ratings go below 2m, as it is a very cheap show to produce it will still be profitable, just not as profitable.

Channel 4 paid for the contract based on the fact that it was getting around 4.5 million.

If it falls to 2m consistently, then they won't be pleased at all.

It will result in the show being axed after its contract ends, or them paying so cheaply for the show and probably won't give a toss about it.

[Stentionhouse]

Originally posted by Tom

You're wrong, Endemol have sold BB3 and 4 to Poland.

But BB10 won't be sold to other markets. The Polish deal was a one off thing in conjunction with Endemol.

[Cath444]

I am loving the show so far - the house is amazing, housemates are cool, loving everything really, but would just love more news reports on the Ch 4 website, and the live feed restored, then I would be truly happy...

[arista]

Originally posted by =-Incognito-=
Good news! We've known for some time that Endemol weren't happy about the situation and this looks like a concerted effort to put pressure on C4 or at least divert the complaints to the correct source.

But is it too late?

They can change it
saying By Public Demand.

[Tom]

Originally posted by President

Channel 4 paid for the contract based on the fact that it was getting around 4.5 million.

If it falls to 2m consistently, then they won't be pleased at all.

It will result in the show being axed after its contract ends, or them paying so cheaply for the show and probably won't give a toss about it.

You're still missing the point though. If you look at what Channel 4 paid for BB10 alone (by dividing the overall cost up evenly), then the average cost per show, its a very low figure where 4 adverts could easily pay for each nightly show. Yes, the figures were once high and thats why the paid then, but it is still very profitable and even if the plug is pulled after next year, it won't be axed midway through the series just because it isn't rating as expected. As long as it is still making money, and it will be, then it will stay on air.