[luminoussun]

BB1 usa was like ours..But it bored the americans and they changed the format.
I am glad as i like usa bb better then the uk
Dr will kirby big brother legend

[IndigoJo]

From yet ANOTHER American, I lived in the UK for 7 years, back in USA 2. I got hooked on BBUK during series 2, how could I not?!!?

I think this year is mediocre, not amazing, but not awful, but I do think that a few of the HM's are great and will watch till the end. I try but I CAN NOT watch BBUSA, after a few minutes I have to turn it off. It is like BB merged with Survivor (tactics, etc.) and it just bores me. I hate the background "mood" music on it, the mixed-up editing, and it doesn't have that "fly on the wall" feel at all.

I do LOVE Halfwit, though I base that on the first half of the series. If Bea left he might be himself finally, no bullies, no femme fatales, just Halfwit being a guy. But he is just who he is, and he does feel smug about making Lisa pay for her past mistakes, might come off cocky now, but that is life. We all get smug at times!

I agree that Marcus is legendary, love him or hate him! We will ALL remember him in years to come (at least one).

BBUK doesn't have a TRUE sweetheart, golden-boy/girl, or underdog this year. That is what is interesting! No one is a TRUE winner, all of them have big flaws, even the favorites. But don't we all....

Miss the UK like mad!!!

[ElProximo]

Originally posted by dogonfire
I don't understand why Freddie has been so hated recently by so many people on here. Obviously I'm not speaking for all of America, I'm sure that less than 1% of Americans actually watch bbuk, but I really feel like he is the most genuine supporter of all things not evil. He has a good heart, as opposed to Lisa who seems like a backstabbing little bitch that would instantly talk **** the second you walk out of the room. Oh, and that smoking makes her accent sound worse than anything in the world. Ugly, useless slug. The only reason she is still in the house is due to the rather large amount of 40+ year old lesbians that watch the show. Not fair, not fair at all...

In comparison, your version of BB is soooooo much better then ours. I really wish the American producers would learn from you guys.

Go Freddie!

He is not nice and likable.
Freddy was most likely to be put in as a 'baddie' in that he was a rich boy from an upper class family with 'seemingly' no direction in his life and happy wasting time with silly ideas and frivolous living.
A type of character so many working class Brits would scorn, mock or at their worst take joy in seeing get taken down a peg or two.
As an American you might not recognize it but he also speaks in a way that indicates he is 'upper class'.
He was mostly booed and sneered at going in and most thought of him as annoying,
but,
What actually happened was that an even more scorned sort of group took immediate hold on the house:
Wannabe starlets, models, glamour girls.
They also created a sort of 'voting block'.
Then they singled out annoying rich kid Freddy and picked on him and isolated him and kept nominating him,
so,
As with many pundits, commentators, many viewers 'fought back' in a sort of 'protest vote'.
Deliberately keeping the annoying twit in!
BECAUSE he was annoying and bothered them.
Okay,
Now some confusion seemed to happen. A lot of people seemed to show up late and believed that Freddy was winning because everyone else must love him.
He must be popular because he is nice and funny etc.
NO!
That was NOT how this started.
but,
Freddy did seem to be trying to go on a journey and be a bit more talkative, friendly etc.
So in a way he was rightfully winning some over for the right reasons.
Okay.
Now what happened was the 'wannabe models' block was busted up and gone.
Freddy then became aware he was getting HIGH 'support'.
Again KEEP IN MIND this was not because 80% LOVED HIM but because many did NOT LIKE HIM but were DELIBERATELY voting him up to 'protest vote' or 'counter attack' the others,
but,
Freddy didn't know that. He supposed it must be because he is so beloved.
Now in a way this is where we actually get to see the 'real Freddy'.
Forget what they say about seeing the real person in times of crisis, disaster because you can REALLY see a persons character when they have everything, don't need anyone and are wealthy.
Well Freddy, thinking himself safe and popular, became a real little prick alright,
and,
worse than that he is annoying as all **** and you really do start to see that,
and,
just watch a clip of him taking great delight in cornering and ganging up on - what he thinks - is the weak and unpopular singled-out HM.
Then see Lisa call him for finding out he was popular and then brace yourself for one of the creepiest things you will ever see.... "uhhh yeaah...mmmMMMMnmmm. IM CUMMING LISA!"
What a sick little fukk!

He is not just annoying but he is someone who took it for granted and then became as condescending and mean-spirited a bully when he got his power,
and,
he is a disturbing little sicko who moans and 'cums' over handguns and violence.
Sick little waste of space who at the age of 23 already has brain damage from drug abuse and was a 'cum sponge' for (he claims) at least 30 different men. I suppose he got them to pose with guns too?
He has lost all his support and popularity for good reason and not the least of which being having an amused chuckle about collecting welfare for 'pocket change' - which is highly offensive to a lot of Brits who have been humiliated to collect just to eat basics and survive and didn't have a gay sex palace for 'handgun roleplay' mushroom tea parties and body-paint bisexual orgies.
Maybe he used his 'welfare check' (as you say) to buy himself more edible sex paints?

Lisa is a menace but she has actually won over people for the fact her and David, as nasty as they are, for at least being very straightforward and being themselves and actually calling out the 'smugs' and the deluded and the now arrogant ones like Freddy.
You might hate them but they are blatant and no BS and often correct.
Like nasty Simon Cowells.
In the UK those are actually considered among the most highly rated qualities in a person.
Blunt, straightforward 'naked truth'.

and yes, BBUK is a whole league beyond the American Version. I know plenty about BBUSA (more than I'd like) and it was great in its own way,
but,
BBUK is just a whole entire level above.
Having said that,
Unfortunately it is BBUK that has looked to the USA this season and gone in the direction of a summer long 'Jerry Springer: The Play'.
You would almost believe that BBUK people watched BBUSA 6 over the holidays and aimed for that.
At times this season almost seemed to be aiming to become BB9 USA (the horrible mistake 'we dont want to talk about it' season)
BB9 UK having been just amazing.. just simply amazing,
but still,
Even the worst BBUK season (which is this one so far) is still just a league above and I strongly agree I only wish Alison would spend more time looking at BBUK and less time recreating her high school with trash wannabe mactors from LA nightclubs.

[BBUK4LYFE]

Originally posted by ElProximo

He is not nice and likable.
Freddy was most likely to be put in as a 'baddie' in that he was a rich boy from an upper class family with 'seemingly' no direction in his life and happy wasting time with silly ideas and frivolous living.
A type of character so many working class Brits would scorn, mock or at their worst take joy in seeing get taken down a peg or two.
As an American you might not recognize it but he also speaks in a way that indicates he is 'upper class'.
He was mostly booed and sneered at going in and most thought of him as annoying,
but,
What actually happened was that an even more scorned sort of group took immediate hold on the house:
Wannabe starlets, models, glamour girls.
They also created a sort of 'voting block'.
Then they singled out annoying rich kid Freddy and picked on him and isolated him and kept nominating him,
so,
As with many pundits, commentators, many viewers 'fought back' in a sort of 'protest vote'.
Deliberately keeping the annoying twit in!
BECAUSE he was annoying and bothered them.
Okay,
Now some confusion seemed to happen. A lot of people seemed to show up late and believed that Freddy was winning because everyone else must love him.
He must be popular because he is nice and funny etc.
NO!
That was NOT how this started.
but,
Freddy did seem to be trying to go on a journey and be a bit more talkative, friendly etc.
So in a way he was rightfully winning some over for the right reasons.
Okay.
Now what happened was the 'wannabe models' block was busted up and gone.
Freddy then became aware he was getting HIGH 'support'.
Again KEEP IN MIND this was not because 80% LOVED HIM but because many did NOT LIKE HIM but were DELIBERATELY voting him up to 'protest vote' or 'counter attack' the others,
but,
Freddy didn't know that. He supposed it must be because he is so beloved.
Now in a way this is where we actually get to see the 'real Freddy'.
Forget what they say about seeing the real person in times of crisis, disaster because you can REALLY see a persons character when they have everything, don't need anyone and are wealthy.
Well Freddy, thinking himself safe and popular, became a real little prick alright,
and,
worse than that he is annoying as all **** and you really do start to see that,
and,
just watch a clip of him taking great delight in cornering and ganging up on - what he thinks - is the weak and unpopular singled-out HM.
Then see Lisa call him for finding out he was popular and then brace yourself for one of the creepiest things you will ever see.... "uhhh yeaah...mmmMMMMnmmm. IM CUMMING LISA!"
What a sick little fukk!

He is not just annoying but he is someone who took it for granted and then became as condescending and mean-spirited a bully when he got his power,
and,
he is a disturbing little sicko who moans and 'cums' over handguns and violence.
Sick little waste of space who at the age of 23 already has brain damage from drug abuse and was a 'cum sponge' for (he claims) at least 30 different men. I suppose he got them to pose with guns too?
He has lost all his support and popularity for good reason and not the least of which being having an amused chuckle about collecting welfare for 'pocket change' - which is highly offensive to a lot of Brits who have been humiliated to collect just to eat basics and survive and didn't have a gay sex palace for 'handgun roleplay' mushroom tea parties and body-paint bisexual orgies.
Maybe he used his 'welfare check' (as you say) to buy himself more edible sex paints?

Lisa is a menace but she has actually won over people for the fact her and David, as nasty as they are, for at least being very straightforward and being themselves and actually calling out the 'smugs' and the deluded and the now arrogant ones like Freddy.
You might hate them but they are blatant and no BS and often correct.
Like nasty Simon Cowells.
In the UK those are actually considered among the most highly rated qualities in a person.
Blunt, straightforward 'naked truth'.

and yes, BBUK is a whole league beyond the American Version. I know plenty about BBUSA (more than I'd like) and it was great in its own way,
but,
BBUK is just a whole entire level above.
Having said that,
Unfortunately it is BBUK that has looked to the USA this season and gone in the direction of a summer long 'Jerry Springer: The Play'.
You would almost believe that BBUK people watched BBUSA 6 over the holidays and aimed for that.
At times this season almost seemed to be aiming to become BB9 USA (the horrible mistake 'we dont want to talk about it' season)
BB9 UK having been just amazing.. just simply amazing,
but still,
Even the worst BBUK season (which is this one so far) is still just a league above and I strongly agree I only wish Alison would spend more time looking at BBUK and less time recreating her high school with trash wannabe mactors from LA nightclubs.

I don't usually read essays, but this post was a good read.

I agree with your analysis on everything except that BBUK is better than BBUS.

[Shasown]

Originally posted by ElProximo

He is not nice and likable.
Freddy was most likely to be put in as a 'baddie' in that he was a rich boy from an upper class family with 'seemingly' no direction in his life and happy wasting time with silly ideas and frivolous living.
A type of character so many working class Brits would scorn, mock or at their worst take joy in seeing get taken down a peg or two.
As an American you might not recognize it but he also speaks in a way that indicates he is 'upper class'.
He was mostly booed and sneered at going in and most thought of him as annoying,
but,
What actually happened was that an even more scorned sort of group took immediate hold on the house:
Wannabe starlets, models, glamour girls.
They also created a sort of 'voting block'.
Then they singled out annoying rich kid Freddy and picked on him and isolated him and kept nominating him,
so,
As with many pundits, commentators, many viewers 'fought back' in a sort of 'protest vote'.
Deliberately keeping the annoying twit in!
BECAUSE he was annoying and bothered them.
Okay,
Now some confusion seemed to happen. A lot of people seemed to show up late and believed that Freddy was winning because everyone else must love him.
He must be popular because he is nice and funny etc.
NO!
That was NOT how this started.
but,
Freddy did seem to be trying to go on a journey and be a bit more talkative, friendly etc.
So in a way he was rightfully winning some over for the right reasons.
Okay.
Now what happened was the 'wannabe models' block was busted up and gone.
Freddy then became aware he was getting HIGH 'support'.
Again KEEP IN MIND this was not because 80% LOVED HIM but because many did NOT LIKE HIM but were DELIBERATELY voting him up to 'protest vote' or 'counter attack' the others,
but,
Freddy didn't know that. He supposed it must be because he is so beloved.
Now in a way this is where we actually get to see the 'real Freddy'.
Forget what they say about seeing the real person in times of crisis, disaster because you can REALLY see a persons character when they have everything, don't need anyone and are wealthy.
Well Freddy, thinking himself safe and popular, became a real little prick alright,
and,
worse than that he is annoying as all **** and you really do start to see that,
and,
just watch a clip of him taking great delight in cornering and ganging up on - what he thinks - is the weak and unpopular singled-out HM.
Then see Lisa call him for finding out he was popular and then brace yourself for one of the creepiest things you will ever see.... "uhhh yeaah...mmmMMMMnmmm. IM CUMMING LISA!"
What a sick little fukk!

He is not just annoying but he is someone who took it for granted and then became as condescending and mean-spirited a bully when he got his power,
and,
he is a disturbing little sicko who moans and 'cums' over handguns and violence.
Sick little waste of space who at the age of 23 already has brain damage from drug abuse and was a 'cum sponge' for (he claims) at least 30 different men. I suppose he got them to pose with guns too?
He has lost all his support and popularity for good reason and not the least of which being having an amused chuckle about collecting welfare for 'pocket change' - which is highly offensive to a lot of Brits who have been humiliated to collect just to eat basics and survive and didn't have a gay sex palace for 'handgun roleplay' mushroom tea parties and body-paint bisexual orgies.
Maybe he used his 'welfare check' (as you say) to buy himself more edible sex paints?

Lisa is a menace but she has actually won over people for the fact her and David, as nasty as they are, for at least being very straightforward and being themselves and actually calling out the 'smugs' and the deluded and the now arrogant ones like Freddy.
You might hate them but they are blatant and no BS and often correct.
Like nasty Simon Cowells.
In the UK those are actually considered among the most highly rated qualities in a person.
Blunt, straightforward 'naked truth'.

and yes, BBUK is a whole league beyond the American Version. I know plenty about BBUSA (more than I'd like) and it was great in its own way,
but,
BBUK is just a whole entire level above.
Having said that,
Unfortunately it is BBUK that has looked to the USA this season and gone in the direction of a summer long 'Jerry Springer: The Play'.
You would almost believe that BBUK people watched BBUSA 6 over the holidays and aimed for that.
At times this season almost seemed to be aiming to become BB9 USA (the horrible mistake 'we dont want to talk about it' season)
BB9 UK having been just amazing.. just simply amazing,
but still,
Even the worst BBUK season (which is this one so far) is still just a league above and I strongly agree I only wish Alison would spend more time looking at BBUK and less time recreating her high school with trash wannabe mactors from LA nightclubs.

What a corker of a post, well done!!!

[ElProximo]

Oh.. well I do appreciate the comments from you guys and especially considering I think both of you usually flame me heh!
Cheers!

[dogonfire]

Originally posted by ElProximo
Now some confusion seemed to happen. A lot of people seemed to show up late and believed that Freddy was winning because everyone else must love him.
He must be popular because he is nice and funny etc.
NO!
That was NOT how this started.
but,
Freddy did seem to be trying to go on a journey and be a bit more talkative, friendly etc.
So in a way he was rightfully winning some over for the right reasons.
Okay.
Now what happened was the 'wannabe models' block was busted up and gone.
Freddy then became aware he was getting HIGH 'support'.
Again KEEP IN MIND this was not because 80% LOVED HIM but because many did NOT LIKE HIM but were DELIBERATELY voting him up to 'protest vote' or 'counter attack' the others,
but,
Freddy didn't know that. He supposed it must be because he is so beloved.

Uhhhh.... no. Loved freddie from the start and always will. He has never done anything wrong, and like the guy said a few posts before, I started cheering when he got in Lisa's face. I'm a low-to-middle-class buisness owner and realize that his wealth quadruples mine + $1,000,000... it has nothing to do with status or sexuality, Freddie is an honest and lovable person. I don't understand how people from the UK don't see this!

BTW, the uk version is way better because you get to know the real person, their true personallity shines through. In the US all we see is a bunch of plotting scheming little bitches that want the $500,000 + prize. Granted the **** that we do is way cooler from task to task, but it doesn't make up for the realism that is lost.

Down with Lisa, David, the lil bitch Rodrigo, and Dogface...
Good luck Freddie to win, Siavash for #2, Marcus for #3, and the other 2 are going to get evicted in the next 2 weeks so who cares?