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Originally posted by BBmassive

But you failed to add IMO and made it out to be a FACT which it clearly isnt ,90% of the time i DO put IMO ,please check ,thank you

I just think that when someone at least appears to be so in distress that it is reasonable to give them the benefit of the doubt. I would prefer to get my facts wrong and be there for someone and find they are ok than to assume they are faking and something awful happens as a result of my walking away. My conscience and conviction is clear on this. IMHO he was in genuine pain and distress, I don't know how you can be so vehement in your assertion that he was faking. He is an intelligent man quite capable of defending his corner verbally without resorting to theatrics. But remember, he has suffered much bullying earlier in the series, and added here was emotional bullying from someone he liked. I don't think he is out for votes at all anyway, my understanding is that he was invited to apply by BB producers.

You did not state imo on that post, and that was the one I referred to. If you level that accusation at me you should have made sure yours had it too.

Now, let's just agree to differ

[saraholeila]

Stuff like that probably happens between housemates all the time. They just focussed on Freddie so much last night cos they want Marcus out.

Freddie isn't a bad guy, but I think he's outstayed his welcome there.

[saraholeila]

He's like some annoying Harry Enfield character!

[fredrica]

Originally posted by saraholeila
Stuff like that probably happens between housemates all the time. They just focussed on Freddie so much last night cos they want Marcus out.

Freddie isn't a bad guy, but I think he's outstayed his welcome there.

I don't think so and this has has caused an uproar. OFCOM has been contacted they have many many calls.
C4 Complaints have been contact phone and email
People are really annoyed by the behaviour exhibited yesterday.

[abrittan]

It's not just the HMs that are cruel. Look at what BB is doing to Rodrigo. How nasty is that?

[srsbsns]

What worries me even more is that if Freddie stays bea will start pretending to like him again and he will fall straight back into her trap, that would be too painful to watch.

[Beastie]

Originally posted by splumb11
I cannot believe that a fair few of you are being so cruel and nasty. The boy was having a hard time. Whether or not you agree with his reasons for being that upset. No one should be spoken about like this or laughed at.

For all Bea's faults at least she had the human decency to recognise pain and confusion when she saw it and try to stop it.

Grow up all of you and I hope next time you find yourself in a situation where you can't cope, you learn a valuable lesson.

I neither like nor dislike Freddie as a housemate but he was in real turmoil tonight.

Disgusting behaviour

yeah people laughing and mocking freddie! it is disgusting! and to be honest! i bet no one on this forum could cope the way freddie coped the first 5 weeks!!

[Stardoll]

Originally posted by LisaFan!
Well Bea is taking massive flack off some posters because she called him negative and moved beds. It's not her fault that he reacts like that.

She's had to endure being picked on, poked at and annoyed regarding the same dull issue for 3 days on end.

So she was interrogated for 3 days by an over-analysing man, yet nobody cares.

If you listen carefully to the conversation, when Bea told Freddie she was moving beds, he said, "Okay." It was only when she kept going on about him being a "negative person"/told him she wanted to get as far away from him as possible/told him she didn't want to "catch anything" off him that he began to get stressed-- and then it's obvious why he reacted like that.

I too would be deeply hurt and crying if my so-called best friend said those things to me.

Another point I would like to make is that Freddie doesn't have a lot of support in that house. Marcus and Siavash are supportive of him, yes, but Marcus is still picking at Siavash, possibly leaving Freddie confused about who to trust.
He has no family to go to, the most common means of support. Bea, on the other hand, now has the support of Lisa and her cronies: Rodrigo, Sophie, Charlie and David. (Tell me if I've missed anyone.)

Bea may be "hurt" but I would hardly compare her state of "I'm pissed off with you right now" to Freddie's panic attack.

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Originally posted by Stardoll

If you listen carefully to the conversation, when Bea told Freddie she was moving beds, he said, "Okay." It was only when she kept going on about him being a "negative person"/told him she wanted to get as far away from him as possible/told him she didn't want to "catch anything" off him that he began to get stressed-- and then it's obvious why he reacted like that.

I too would be deeply hurt and crying if my so-called best friend said those things to me.

Another point I would like to make is that Freddie doesn't have a lot of support in that house. Marcus and Siavash are supportive of him, yes, but Marcus is still picking at Siavash, possibly leaving Freddie confused about who to trust.
He has no family to go to, the most common means of support. Bea, on the other hand, now has the support of Lisa and her cronies: Rodrigo, Sophie, Charlie and David. (Tell me if I've missed anyone.)

Bea may be "hurt" but I would hardly compare her state of "I'm p****d off with you right now" to Freddie's panic attack.

Very good and valid points what broke Freddie was after weeks of isolation and bullying, he unexpectedly found a new housemate he could not only bond with but really relate to. He developed strong feelings for her and after finding these feelings were not mutual, to then be spoken to like this by her was crushing for him. Had it been anyone else in the house but her saying this he would have coped.

What did it for me were two acts of gratuitous cruelty by Bea. When moving beds she then saw fit to lean onto his bed and say into his face "I want to get as far away from you and your negativity as possible", and when he said his speech was failing him because he had a panic attack coming on, her mocking "Why-are-you-talk-ing-like-that?" Not the actions of a compassionate, caring person. Her pathetic throwing in of terms like "bad energy", "negative vibes/aura" were part of her pathetic hippy sham imo.

Sure some people can shrug things off better than other, but Freddie is a sensitive man with principles of positivity and kindness which he holds dear. To have this integrity mocked by the one person he thought was on his wavelength totally crushed him. To mock it is as cruel as Bea was.

[BBmassive]

FAO SHASH
I just think that when someone at least appears to be so in distress that it is reasonable to give them the benefit of the doubt. I would prefer to get my facts wrong and be there for someone and find they are ok than to assume they are faking and something awful happens as a result of my walking away. My conscience and conviction is clear on this. IMHO he was in genuine pain and distress, I don't know how you can be so vehement in your assertion that he was faking. He is an intelligent man quite capable of defending his corner verbally without resorting to theatrics. But remember, he has suffered much bullying earlier in the series, and added here was emotional bullying from someone he liked. I don't think he is out for votes at all anyway, my understanding is that he was invited to apply by BB producers.

You did not state imo on that post, and that was the one I referred to. If you level that accusation at me you should have made sure yours had it too.

Now, let's just agree to differ

Yes lets, You carry on having the wool pulled over your eyes by a con man ,i will watch the show without rose tinted glasses