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Freddie Fisher · 02-07-2010, 12:47 AM

My favourite characters so far are Ben and Shabby. Nobody seems surprised that I like Ben. Contrary to what people presume, I spend more time with people like Shabby than I do with people like Ben. But Shabby is 'controversial' favourite apparently, so this could be an interesting debate. The main criticisms I've heard about Shabby are that she's bitchy and throws tantrums. Here's what I think...

All the housemates gossip: there isn't much else to do. But I get the sense Shabby is venting her anger, rather than being malicious/strategic. She doesn't get too personal, and often has a good point. I really like Ben, but I've also agreed with a lot of what Shabby has said about him. I think Caiomhe is the bitchier of the two, and bitching/smoking brings them closer together. Similarly, spending time with Bea brought out my bitchy side.

Shabby's tantrums irritate the other housemates. But some people's emotions are just wired that way, and the BB house is a very intense environment. While these reactions seem 'childish', they are involuntary and entertaining.

I think Shabby probably suffers from bi-polar disorder, or something similar. She gets extremely angry, but it doesn't seem like normal anger. She remains more lucid and logical than people typically do when experiencing that level of emotion. And while her anger is intense, it also seems a lot less 'personal' than if a normal person was that angry. Also, her housemates seem to be somewhat desensitised to her tantrums, which they wouldn't if they detected malice.

Her anger is intensified because she tends to suppress her sadness, a trait more common in men then women. The masque does slip through sometimes, particularly when she's angry/frustrated with Caiomhe. These have been (for me) the most touching moments of the show so far.

I doubt that Caiomhe's new-found attraction for Shabby is genuine. Shabby doesn't seem convinced either, but to doubt her friend's intentions publicly would be disloyal. Love-struck, but still no fool, she didn't try very hard to convince us in the diary room.

It'd be interesting to see how she acts if Caiomhe leaves tomorrow. While Caiomhe is a close friend, she has also been a huge source of frustration for Shabby. This source of frustration will be gone, and a 'good day' from Caiomhe may help tip her into a more positive spiral. Then we'll hopefully see a more positive side to Shabby.

Shabby has a lot going for her. Love her voice, could listen to her talk all day. Her clothes are awesome; it's a shame BB took her hat as it really suits her. Hope she gets it back on her 'good day'. She's argumentative, entertaining, creative, loyal and genuine. She's also is very perceptive, and her diary rooms are awesome. Not to everyone's taste it seems, but an excellent housemate. We'd be fools to vote her out this week.

I would also like to see more of Sunshine, but I doubt she'll be going. Caiomhe has my vote this week.

GypsyGoth · 02-07-2010, 12:51 AM

Good to hear Freddy, Shabby is my fave, I'm glad she has your support

Kore · 02-07-2010, 12:52 AM

are you the real freddie fisher lol

GypsyGoth · 02-07-2010, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Kore

are you the real freddie fisher lol

Yes he is.

Nemo123 · 02-07-2010, 12:54 AM

http://www.digitalspy.com/forums/sho...php?p=41457134

It's like a sort of press release.

KG. · 02-07-2010, 12:54 AM

They're both knobs.

Though I do want Shabby kept in for the sake of the show; that said, if Caoimhe isn't there, she might just fade away and become boring.

vesavius · 02-07-2010, 12:54 AM

Terrible call on the Ben thing Freddie, he is an entirely different animal to you and your probably doing yourself no favours drawing parallels between the two of you... He is obviously a machiavellian political manipulater that grooms, discards, and snipes.

Shabby though? She has grown on me massively the past week now we are seeing her stage school contrived shell fall away. She is actually lovely and funny when she lets herself be.

She won't win though unless BB actually start to show more of her then her tantrums. Thats seems to be their agenda for her though, so I wouldnt hold my breath.

Have to agree with all of this;

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Originally Posted by Freddie Fisher

She has a lot going for her. Love her voice, could listen to her talk all day. Her clothes are awesome; it's a shame BB took her hat as it really suits her. Hope she gets it back on her 'good day'. She's argumentative, entertaining, creative, loyal and genuine. She's also is very perceptive, and her diary rooms are awesome. Not to everyone's taste it seems, but an excellent housemate. We'd be fools to vote her out this week.

Zippy · 02-07-2010, 12:56 AM

I think Sunshine will go after tonight sadly. I want Caoimhe out. She's no use. But then Shabby may walk too so....hm, tricky.

And...OMFG its Freddie in da house!! Hello there!

Patrick · 02-07-2010, 12:57 AM

Agree on Shabby possibly suffering from Bipolar disorder Freddie, I was thinking this the other night when she had her tantrum in the nest.

I love her too, I think she's very entertaining.

I'm glad Ben has actually done what Alex Reid did and turn the boos he received on launch night to what I expect will be cheers when he leaves on his eviction and maybe perhaps tomorrow night when he walks out those doors.

Glad to hear you're voting for Caoimhe, we need to keep Shabby in the house until the end.
I think she is very misunderstood.

And welcome to TiBB Freddie!

GypsyGoth · 02-07-2010, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Zippy

I think Sunshine will go after tonight sadly. I want Caoimhe out. She's no use. But then Shabby may walk too so....hm, tricky.

Shabby won't walk.

discotheque · 02-07-2010, 12:58 AM

Bravo ! Some great points.

In almost total agreement with you. Afraid I'm not a fan of the hat though.

(Watch out theres some pictures of Bea knocking round the site

)

bbfan1991 · 02-07-2010, 01:00 AM

I agree Freddie

. Shabby is a complicated and complex character, can be bitchy and who has a temper and can be childish when things don't go her way, there is a vulnerable side to her too and sometimes I do think she contrives and act things because I have that much of a split opinion on her, she's not a bad person at all IMHO

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Fetch The Bolt Cutters · 02-07-2010, 01:00 AM

hey freddie! your hot lets have sex

Patrick · 02-07-2010, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by simonsays

hey freddie! your hot lets have sex

Its probably not a good idea to welcome Freddie and offer him sex when you have Bea as your SIG.

Patrick · 02-07-2010, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Zippy

I think Sunshine will go after tonight sadly. I want Caoimhe out. She's no use. But then Shabby may walk too so....hm, tricky.

And...OMFG its Freddie in da house!! Hello there!

If Sunshine wen't that would be as big as shock as Rachael going.

It would be amazing though.
The only way she will go is if the Votes Split, heres hoping.

Fetch The Bolt Cutters · 02-07-2010, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Patrick

Its probably not a good idea to welcome Freddie and offer him sex when you have Bea as your SIG.

i like you now lol lets see how long it lasts

JOSH69 · 02-07-2010, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Freddie Fisher

My favourite characters so far are Ben and Shabby. Nobody seems surprised that I like Ben. Contrary to what people presume, I spend more time with people like Shabby than I do with people like Ben. But Shabby is 'controversial' favourite apparently, so this could be an interesting debate. The main criticisms I've heard about Shabby are that she's bitchy and throws tantrums. Here's what I think...

All the housemates gossip: there isn't much else to do. But I get the sense Shabby is venting her anger, rather than being malicious/strategic. She doesn't get too personal, and often has a good point. I really like Ben, but I've also agreed with a lot of what Shabby has said about him. I think Caiomhe is the bitchier of the two, and bitching/smoking brings them closer together. Similarly, spending time with Bea brought out my bitchy side.

Shabby's tantrums irritate the other housemates. But some people's emotions are just wired that way, and the BB house is a very intense environment. While these reactions seem 'childish', they are involuntary and entertaining.

I think Shabby probably suffers from bi-polar disorder, or something similar. She gets extremely angry, but it doesn't seem like normal anger. She remains more lucid and logical than people typically do when experiencing that level of emotion. And while her anger is intense, it also seems a lot less 'personal' than if a normal person was that angry. Also, her housemates seem to be somewhat desensitised to her tantrums, which they wouldn't if they detected malice.

Her anger is intensified because she tends to suppress her sadness, a trait more common in men then women. The masque does slip through sometimes, particularly when she's angry/frustrated with Caiomhe. These have been (for me) the most touching moments of the show so far.

I doubt that Caiomhe's new-found attraction for Shabby is genuine. Shabby doesn't seem convinced either, but to doubt her friend's intentions publicly would be disloyal. Love-struck, but still no fool, she didn't try very hard to convince us in the diary room.

It'd be interesting to see how she acts if Caiomhe leaves tomorrow. While Caiomhe is a close friend, she has also been a huge source of frustration for Shabby. This source of frustration will be gone, and a 'good day' from Caiomhe may help tip her into a more positive spiral. Then we'll hopefully see a more positive side to Shabby.

Shabby has a lot going for her. Love her voice, could listen to her talk all day. Her clothes are awesome; it's a shame BB took her hat as it really suits her. Hope she gets it back on her 'good day'. She's argumentative, entertaining, creative, loyal and genuine. She's also is very perceptive, and her diary rooms are awesome. Not to everyone's taste it seems, but an excellent housemate. We'd be fools to vote her out this week.

I would also like to see more of Sunshine, but I doubt she'll be going. Caiomhe has my vote this week.

Same here!.......I,am hoping Caoimhe will go......But don,t think so some now!