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Originally Posted by stoney

but that is one of JJ's most hypocritical moments. Its ok for him to be himself in the house but if ben doesn't change JJ is going to , cant remember exactly what he said but it was something along the lines of attacking him over it whenever he wanted to (I know he means verbally tho)

but JJ only wants fun that he wants and brings all the rest down with his nasty aggression, selfishness and arguments

selfish?? lol oh yes the KING OF SELFISH *DRUMROLL* Ben tadaaa

[crit]

JJ doesnt give a **** about anyone but himself.

[stoney]

ben is selfish but so is JJ.
he wants everything his way from bedroom party time, that has now got later since ben and keeley asked the rest to use other rooms when playing late at night
JJ is also allowe dto say anything he wants in whatever manner he wants but then turns on people over the simplest of comments.

The "argument" had nowt to do with what JJ ranted about. He started by having a go at ben over ben using external factors (home/family etc) when Ben is making his bitchy comebacks and then JJ changed it to be all about Ben not trying in tasks and no longer caring about teh outside world.

But the real reason for the fight was JJ was in a foul mood and had been from his fight with ife and was annoyed at having to do teh Ben TOT task and to get himself some more airtime

[30stone]

He has the right attitude!?

What happens in the house is nothing to do with us unless big borther says we can vote on something.

He has a problem with ben ben has a problem with him thats for them to sort out not us.

[MargeryFan]

As much as I can't stand JJ and love Ben. This has been massively taken out of context.

[Angus]

http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/GET...29721063725366

[jojo10]

Originally Posted by BB_Eye

First admirable thing he's said to be fair.

Really, he knows how to work the public after watching BB so much in the past, and yes of course he does care about what the public think because he know that they are the 1s who are going to crown the winner. Also he goes on about people being in the house to further their career or are there to win it, so exactly why has he come all the way to the UK if he's not looking for the same thing.

He knows that the girls might fancy him and that us girls are the 1s that vote the most, so he has got a strong possibilty of winning, why else would he come here and onto BB, it's all about the money for every single person that comes onto BB and not just the experience, why else would half of them stay in the house when they are bored senseless or are missing the people on the outside world, again because of the money they could win or make after the show.

Also, the 1s that protest the most about not being concerned about what the public think about them or about winning, for eg, JJ, are the 1s that do really care about all that stuff, so no it's not the first admiral thing that JJ has said so far, he's just clever at playing the public, and knows what we like to hear.

Loving Ben ,Corin, Josie, Mario, Steve, Andrew, Keeley and Rachael.

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by 30stone

He has the right attitude!?

What happens in the house is nothing to do with us unless big borther says we can vote on something.

He has a problem with ben ben has a problem with him thats for them to sort out not us.

John has a problem with Ben's ubiquitous answer "well the public can decide". John has the problem that implies his actions are likely to mean 11 people are cold showering n eating sh1te for a week in the meantime.

What John essentially said is who gives an 'eff of the public vote if you make 11 other people suffer as a consequnce of your selfishness

[Kazanne]

A demitasse would fit his head like a sombrero.

[stoney]

but JJ has cost them a luxury budget whereas ben won them one tho so as usual JJ was talking repetitive cr@p

[Kaaarenn!]

Shows he's just being himself and who he wants to be and not being someone else who is trying to impress the public and it's no point going in there worrying about the public think because then you can't be yourself and enjoy your time in there.

[Claymores]

A crowd chant of "Get Ben Out" takes on a whole new meaning for the ridiculous queen!

[stoney]

Originally Posted by Kaaarenn!

Shows he's just being himself and who he wants to be and not being someone else who is trying to impress the public and it's no point going in there worrying about the public think because then you can't be yourself and enjoy your time in there.

utter bullshine.

he tells us toooooooo often that he doesn't care what the public thinks then uses it as a stick to attack ben.
He was looking for an argument last night and was walking around with his face tripping him becuse he was not centre stage. Ben was. So cue the lets attack ben , initially over a comment that JJ laughed about with Ben in the snug, over using things from outside in ben's bitchy insults. Then flip flop its now all about how ben never tries in any tasks and costs them hot water and food when ben has never cost them food but JJ has and how Ben is using BB to further HIS career something JJ would never do.
But all thru his repetitive aggressive rant he was insisting that Ben had to change or he would go on attacking him over it but that he was going to be himself, altho he says he will try to control his aggression, cos he doesnt give a feck what anyone out here thinks of him( except for when he attacks others for making him look bad on tv[josie,ife,ss,ben,dave])

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Originally Posted by stoney

utter bullshine.

he tells us toooooooo often that he doesn't care what the public thinks then uses it as a stick to attack ben.
He was looking for an argument last night and was walking around with his face tripping him becuse he was not centre stage. Ben was. So cue the lets attack ben , initially over a comment that JJ laughed about with Ben in the snug, over using things from outside in ben's bitchy insults. Then flip flop its now all about how ben never tries in any tasks and costs them hot water and food when ben has never cost them food but JJ has and how Ben is using BB to further HIS career something JJ would never do.
But all thru his repetitive aggressive rant he was insisting that Ben had to change or he would go on attacking him over it but that he was going to be himself, altho he says he will try to control his aggression, cos he doesnt give a feck what anyone out here thinks of him( except for when he attacks others for making him look bad on tv[josie,ife,ss,ben,dave])

Ben brought it up NOT JJ...

[stoney]

ben mentioned it in passing.

JJ made a big thing of it and has said so before too

and he has used it to attack other inmates for making him look bad to the outside world

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Originally Posted by stoney

ben mentioned it in passing.

JJ made a big thing of it and has said so before too

and he has used it to attack other inmates for making him look bad to the outside world

oh look jackanory is on.. *wanders off*

[stoney]

Originally Posted by FireTwilight

oh look jackanory is on.. *wanders off*

why not just put me on ignore rather than your pathetic attempt at wit

or even better point out the errors in what i have said perhaps

[AusFan]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

You make me massively glad that I am British ange7 and not Australian and from your rather odd comments I have to say I can see why you like John James so much.
Housemates have to show their true selves, Ben gets pilloried for doing just that,but if you are really telling us that is JJ showing his real self then its a wonder any British person likes him at all,what an odd country Australia must be to encourage such disrespect, lack of decency,such vile tempered personality and a filthy mouth to go with it as to language,I am really glad I don't live there.

I'm Australian and I think JJ can be an idiot sometimes but he also has qualities I like about him, the same goes for every HM who has had the balls to show at least some of their real personalities good and bad and not 'fake' their way through showing us nothing. Has it ever occurred to you that some viewers don't support the so called ''good'' housemates but support the HM's who go into the house to just be themselves?

Honestly it amazes me who some people get bent out of shape over something so completely out of context and then come on here with their propaganda trying to influence other people's opinions. And if you want to talk about offending people maybe you should look at yourself with the constant mentioning of JJ being Australian considering everything JJ has said or done has nothing to do with his nationality, i mean like Shabby or Nathen didn't have ''foul mouths''.

End of the day JJ is good for the show and as an Australian I'm proud of the
he way he atleast has gone in there and put himself out there for all to see, it's refreshing because our version of BB had its fair share of ''pot plants'' who added nothing to the show as well.

[Tessier Ashpool]

Originally Posted by AusFan

I'm Australian and I think JJ can be an idiot sometimes but he also has qualities I like about him, the same goes for every HM who has had the balls to show at least some of their real personalities good and bad and not 'fake' their way through showing us nothing.

It doesn't take balls to show your personality in the BB house It is eventually forced out anyway. John is definitely being himself, but would you want to hang around with that broken man in rl?

John's personality is sometimes likeable, but he clearly needs his arguments; he can't help himself. He needs them to blow off steam - release anxiety. Sometimes he attacks those he cares about (mommy Josie) because he can't control it

Mostly, he selects an easy target who he (or a bitching buddy) finds in some way annoying, then tears them apart by repeatedly pointing out their most boringly obvious personal flaws (whilst projecting a few of his own onto them). You can see how animated he becomes -high on his own bullsh-t. Then he walks away cleansed - next day he's like nout happened, the victim walks away feeling crappy for days/weeks. Rinse and repeat.

JJ has let slip a few times that he thinks of himself as some selfless, anti-fame saint come to bring the fame hungry HMs down a peg or two. TBF, its a tried and tested tactic - even Mario hammed it up with Ben a few weeks ago. Normally the HM practicing this tactic will even convince themselves. Of course, once out of the house they will "give in" to the money hats.

Like anyone with a functioning brain believes the media circus that surrounds BB isn't a factor in him (or anyone else) entering BB. Like he is above a few magazine deals or making himself a career .

Who is he to judge them? As Ben rightly pointed out 'the public will decide'.
BB is a popularity pageant for god's sake, and you don't have to be nice or team-spirited to be popular, as JJ and Ben both prove.

Only reason I'm targeting John is because his arguments are so constant that his whiney voice is effing up the show.

[RosieRed xxx]

JJ was saying he is not going to act differently because of the public which is fine, Ben could have got up and walked away at any time, why say to dave "I cant bear ths" when he was there carrying on when he could have stopped it at any time?????

JJ was right Ben is not a team player and because he admits it he thinks its ok. However I did feel for Ben because he had just had a lovely time in the diary room and then went out to an arguement. Anyway they kissed and made up ages ago so shall we just forget it and move on??????

[AusFan]

Don't get wrong, I like Ben and am a bigger fan of Ben's then JJ's all things considering although I think Ben doing the standup ruined him a little because now he knows he's popular he thinks he can get away with anything now. It's good to hear if they made up because I think JJ sometimes forgets that Ben stood up for JJ during the opening few weeks.

I don't know if I could hang out with JJ but I think he would be alot more easygoing in the real world and not locked inside a compound 24/7. I agree he takes he anger out on people to ease the tension within himself (a very common trait) but that's just the way he is (same with Shabby) and the HM's are free to nominate him to leave the house if they can't live with him.

[Tessier Ashpool]

Originally Posted by AusFan

I don't know if I could hang out with JJ but I think he would be alot more easygoing in the real world and not locked inside a compound 24/7. I agree he takes he anger out on people to ease the tension within himself (a very common trait) but that's just the way he is (same with Shabby) and the HM's are free to nominate him to leave the house if they can't live with him.

True, it is a very common trait, in all of us to a lesser degree - I think John would be a lot more chilled in rl. That's BB's thing though - it strips away all the fluff and puts the HMs under extreme pressure. Brings out their darker behaviour ten fold. I guess it boils down to what kind of b-stard we can accept into our hearts

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Originally Posted by stoney

why not just put me on ignore rather than your pathetic attempt at wit

or even better point out the errors in what i have said perhaps

we all have opinions I just like mine better lol

[Braden]

John James is starting to turn into Freddie imo.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Braden

John James is starting to turn into Freddie imo.

But Freddie was nice,I see no comparison at all,unless you mean he was popular and is now on dodgy ground with the public