[Lee.]

I can see why and agree with the students protesting (in a peaceful manner). But lets face it, the people who start the riots, aren't students, have no brains,have no jobs and are really just out for a day of fighting!

[arista]

Originally Posted by happyland

I can see why and agree with the students protesting (in a peaceful manner). But lets face it, the people who start the riots, aren't students, have no brains,have no jobs and are really just out for a day of fighting!

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Pol..._And_Cambridge



Watch the Exclusive Student Fight Vidio
One is Clever many other are Thug Students.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Not all Students as with any other section of society are lazy and unable to do anything in the freezing cold. Many Students while at University contribute greatly to not only the area they are in while at Uni but also to Society at large in general.

The real and correct anger Students have with the Govt and the Lib Dems in particular stems from that party (Lib Dems) claiming to want to win the trust of voters back and to deliver on their promises, the LibDems gave guarantees to Students from their leader right down to their canvassers,(of whom many Students helped with leafleting etc), on tuition fees and other things,they promised no way would they support increases and even signed publicly a pledge to that effect.

Then once winning the votes betrayed that trust put in them.Students may aften have a bad press but sometimes as with everyone else their grievances can be just ones too.

You're right, not all students are lazy and feckless. However, a lot of them are. You've only got to read this forum and see the posts from people who either are students, or who are on their way to uni, to see that a vast amount of them can neither spell nor punctuate and they struggle to form a complete, coherent sentence. Some of them actually uphold that being able to write properly isn't important! I don't want my tax money keeping them in the Student Union Bar for the next three years.

You criticise the Tories and the LibDems in your post, but nowhere do I see you mention Labour, who introduced fees in the first place.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I'm sympathetic to their aim but the serious protesters need to denounce the mob really as it's bringing them down and allowing the media to play the rampant teen card.

Yes Rampant and Wrong

[arista]

[arista]

[arista]

well done SkyNews who got that Student fight.


Strange the Bloated BBC news, which I pay for , is staying back
and having studio rubbish talk.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by arista

Who do they think they are, the IRA?

Originally Posted by Livia

You criticise the Tories and the LibDems in your post, but nowhere do I see you mention Labour, who introduced fees in the first place.

Not to mention the fact that they were the ones who launched the Browne Review into higher education funding in the first place

[arista]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/...s-tuition-fees

A 5mins humdrum VT of students talking. from the Guardian

Not as good as this Girl Student fighting a thug girl student video on SkyNews
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Pol..._And_Cambridge

[Judas]

I love the 'I should of stayed in bed instead of voting for Nick Clegg' sign - mocks the stereotype yet so, so true.

[Judas]

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Pol..._And_Cambridge

What a bunch of TITS in that video arista posted - this is what makes me angry. I could understand why the action may of been required the first time, to get a real 'splash' in the news but the people doing it are just doing it because they are thick *****s quite honestly. I'm not sure if you noticed but you can see a photographer SMILING as that boy smashes in the windscreen, that will be a headline photo tomorrow.

Utter *****.

Oh, and I think I love that Zoe Williams girl who actually had a brain cell in practise...

[Z]

It's not just in England... got harassed by canvassers to take part in a protest today (in Glasgow) but I had a class to go to; there's a knock on effect in Scotland whereby English students have to pay more to go to uni there; so they migrate up to Scotland which becomes cheaper than staying in England; which in turn affects Scottish students from getting places at university, generally speaking prices will go up to take advantage of the fact there are students there who are glad it's "cheaper than back home" (but actually still outrageously expensive) and so on.

I really hate this stereotypical view of students that a few people have expressed in here: we're at university because we want to learn, we want to graduate with degrees that give us a better chance to obtain good jobs and, in my own case, I've moved away from home and learned to be independent - I do not need a misleading political party affecting my life after I placed my trust in them to preserve it the way it currently is.

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by Zee

It's not just in England... got harassed by canvassers to take part in a protest today (in Glasgow) but I had a class to go to; there's a knock on effect in Scotland whereby English students have to pay more to go to uni there; so they migrate up to Scotland which becomes cheaper than staying in England; which in turn affects Scottish students from getting places at university, generally speaking prices will go up to take advantage of the fact there are students there who are glad it's "cheaper than back home" (but actually still outrageously expensive) and so on.

I really hate this stereotypical view of students that a few people have expressed in here: we're at university because we want to learn, we want to graduate with degrees that give us a better chance to obtain good jobs and, in my own case, I've moved away from home and learned to be independent - I do not need a misleading political party affecting my life after I placed my trust in them to preserve it the way it currently is.

Zee for PM!

In fact, confirm something for me Zee.. Do Scots pay tuition fees? I know they were abolished years ago, but what exactly does a Uni student pay up here?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Judas

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Pol..._And_Cambridge

What a bunch of TITS in that video arista posted - this is what makes me angry. I could understand why the action may of been required the first time, to get a real 'splash' in the news but the people doing it are just doing it because they are thick *****s quite honestly. I'm not sure if you noticed but you can see a photographer SMILING as that boy smashes in the windscreen, that will be a headline photo tomorrow.

Utter *****.

Oh, and I think I love that Zoe Williams girl who actually had a brain cell in practise...

Yes Judas
But it is a Good Video of the Day by SkyNews ,right in there as it started.
That kind of battle is hidden on the Bloated BBC news sadly.

[arista]

"I really hate this stereotypical view of students that a few people have expressed in here: "



Sure Zee
but Live now on SkyNews is the Kettle of some students
Stuck.


So we can understand why now they are getting angry,
some are dancing though.

One Student Girl just shouted 'I Love you Mum'



The point is Clever Zee
What Now?

Students are not alone in this Hard Times.

[Legend killer]

Originally Posted by happyland

lol..

I sense it's all going to kick off in a bit.. stay safe!!

Thanx 4 the concern Happyland . I left just as it started getting really violent becuz i had a lesson to go to lol

[Legend killer]

I have to say some of the banners i saw where hilarious

[Stu]

Originally Posted by angus58

Whoopididoodah - another riot from a bunch of kids who think the world owes them a living, and another influx of immigrants from Ireland who want yet more UK cash as if the billions we've already been forced to bale them out with is not enough.

So much sh*t to look forward to! Oh joy

How is it being miserable and ill informed?

[arista]

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-...01011415826275

For ZEE

3mins Video of Zoe Williams
the one Girl Student who wanted the Thug Students to stop
talking after the fight.


Well Done SkyNews

[Judas]

Bloody hell Arista, you love your sky news! Are you on commision for every click they get?!

[Shaun]

So many of these protestors seem to be arguing against other cuts - I can see a few EMA signs in there. What the Hell has that got to do with the tuition fee cuts?

And ugh, I cringe every time I see a photo of some wannabe stood on a platform with some "OMG I'M CHE GUEVARA" pose.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Judas

Bloody hell Arista, you love your sky news! Are you on commision for every click they get?!

No I am not
I have 4 TV's on
SkyNewsHD (On my Sony 32" HD LCD) is the better one,
as unlike the BBC news (on my flat screen Samsung CRT 14") they do not block fights.


I was also on the IranianTV PressTV
as they also took the SkyCopter feed and put it full screen.


CNN covered it with there own reporters
France24News covered it well.

FoxNews USA used the SkyNews Footage , of course.


I use 2 SkyHD feeds
1 VirginHD
1 FreesatHD

[Judas]

Originally Posted by Shaun

So many of these protestors seem to be arguing against other cuts - I can see a few EMA signs in there. What the Hell has that got to do with the tuition fee cuts?

I think today has been organised by 'The National Campaign Against Fees and Cuts' - and they include cuts to EMA to. (Which I don't really agree with)

Originally Posted by arista

No I am not
I have 4 TV's on
SkyNewsHD (On my Sony 32" HD LCD) is the better one,
as unlike the BBC news (on my flat screen Samsung CRT 14") they do not block fights.


I was also on the IranianTV PressTV
as they also took the SkyCopter feed and put it full screen.


CNN covered it with there own reporters

FoxNews USA used the SkyNews Footage , of course.


I use 2 SkyHD feeds
1 VirginHD
1 FreesatHD

WOW, why do you have so many TVs? Do you work for some kind of media organisation or are you just rich and engaged in the TV?

[Z]

Originally Posted by happyland

Zee for PM!

In fact, confirm something for me Zee.. Do Scots pay tuition fees? I know they were abolished years ago, but what exactly does a Uni student pay up here?

The government pays for tuition fees so long as you apply for them through SAAS, they provide you with an award notice which you need to pass the details of onto your university so they can process your fee payments. Otherwise students have have to pay for accommodation and buy course materials (books etc) and live off an income made up of parental contribution, any wages they earn themselves and can apply for a student loan which varies from student to student because they base it on parental income - I don't have a student loan because I was going to receive the bare minimum from the Student Loans Company and my parents said they'd rather find the extra cash themselves than for me to get a pitiful amount and have to pay it back + interest. It's pretty costly living as a student here when you take all of that into account from the point of view of parents, so I think it's important that it's not just students who are protesting these proposed changes, because it affects a greater number of people than you might imagine to begin with.

Personally, I definitely wouldn't be at university in another city if Scottish students had to pay tuition fees, far too expensive to pay £1820 on top of everything else! I'd be living at home and probably wouldn't be allowed to go to uni, which is why I'm grateful that I don't have to pay tuition fees!

[arista]