[Smithy]

Radiation levels have fallen at Japan's earthquake-stricken Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant, the government says.

Finally some good news

[James]

I've deleted some posts, and their responses. A few posters were trivialising this topic.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Finally some good news

To be perfectly honest: I'm not entirely sure I trust any information that is being released from the Japanese government.

Remember, they initially said of the first reactor that exploded, that it wasn't an explosion, that the roof had collapsed only - then later admitted it was an explosion.

I hope it is the case that they are being truthful, I'm not entirely convinced.

[Shaun]

I find it a bit sick that C4 is picking up on some supposed investigation into Fukushima prior to the earthquake. Yeah. Because it was just chance that the nuclear plant's facilities failed just around the time of the 5th biggest earthquake of all time

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Shaun

I find it a bit sick that C4 is picking up on some supposed investigation into Fukushima prior to the earthquake. Yeah. Because it was just chance that the nuclear plant's facilities failed just around the time of the 5th biggest earthquake of all time

three years ago, experts found that procedures and standards were not being met as they had been recorded. Several years ago, at the same plant, the Japanese were found to be falsifying records in respect of the Safety of the plant. I think it' s perfectly understandabe - these things have to be addressed - if there is any truth in these stories: the Japanese could have avoided the very situation they find themselves in as far as dealing with the nuclear plants is concerned.

This link gives some info on previous cover ups in Japan's nuclear industry:-

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...14/3163785.htm

[Shaun]

That's a pretty vague article. The only specific example of covering-up information it alludes to is:

He says in 2003 reactors across the country had to be shut down after it emerged the Tokyo Electric Power Company (TEPCO) had hid accidents.

"They had to shut down 17 plants in 2003 because they'd been falsifying the records about what had been happening at them," he said.

"Now the accidents weren't of a major nature. They weren't anything like what's going on in Fukushima.

I think maybe there's confusion in the area. Perhaps the line is being blurred between a lack of hard information (due to the hectic nature of the damage) and people trying to get all of this information. It just seems a bit disrespectful to accuse the government of lying (ohay recurring theme tonight ) - why would they? The explosions have been well documented; international media is at an all-time high - it would be foolish to try and hide information.

[Tom.]

Originally Posted by Shaun

I find it a bit sick that C4 is picking up on some supposed investigation into Fukushima prior to the earthquake. Yeah. Because it was just chance that the nuclear plant's facilities failed just around the time of the 5th biggest earthquake of all time

There might have been something up with the plant and the earthquake just made those problems worse and 'tipped' it over the edge so to speak.

What I'm finding sick is Americans saying its payback for Peal Harbour. Wasn't that the atomic bomb that killed 100 times as many as was killed at PH? They're slightly forgetting that small fact

[Shaun]

Yeah I guess. I suppose time will tell, I just think it's a bit presumptuous to make their govt. look like they've done something wrong when it could all well just be an unavoidable disaster.

[Tom.]

Originally Posted by Shaun

Yeah I guess. I suppose time will tell, I just think it's a bit presumptuous to make their govt. look like they've done something wrong when it could all well just be an unavoidable disaster.

Thats ITN for you, they overanalyse everything.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Shaun

That's a pretty vague article. The only specific example of covering-up information it alludes to is:



I think maybe there's confusion in the area. Perhaps the line is being blurred between a lack of hard information (due to the hectic nature of the damage) and people trying to get all of this information. It just seems a bit disrespectful to accuse the government of lying (ohay recurring theme tonight ) - why would they? The explosions have been well documented; international media is at an all-time high - it would be foolish to try and hide information.

It was one of only a great many that can be found - was as an example only.

The Japanese (and lots of other governments around the world too for that matter) don't have good history in truth telling.

Time will tell.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Tom.

There might have been something up with the plant and the earthquake just made those problems worse and 'tipped' it over the edge so to speak.

What I'm finding sick is Americans saying its payback for Peal Harbour. Wasn't that the atomic bomb that killed 100 times as many as was killed at PH? They're slightly forgetting that small fact

What gets me is that many of those who are coming out with lines like that, most likely weren't around during Pearl Harbour Attack - it's just in bred bitterness travelling through generations. It's an incredibly warped and sick way to view progress that has been made over many decades. Presumably all these people who are citing such nonsense, never purchase anything of Japanese origin...... and that I doubt.

How anyone can take any form of pleasure in this is truly beyond comprehension.

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by Tom.

What I'm finding sick is Americans saying its payback for Peal Harbour.

I don't think they are.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Zippy

I don't think they are.

Some of them are apparently, it's been trending on Twitter and I read an article saying it was happening on Facebook too.

[James]

Originally Posted by Tom.

There might have been something up with the plant and the earthquake just made those problems worse and 'tipped' it over the edge so to speak.

What I'm finding sick is Americans saying its payback for Peal Harbour. Wasn't that the atomic bomb that killed 100 times as many as was killed at PH? They're slightly forgetting that small fact

Unfortunately, there is a lot of childishness and irresponsibility on the Internet. People think they can say anything because they are effectively anonymous and are never (or rarely at most) held to account for anything they say.

[James]

I have been checking this site for updates about the nuclear plant. http://world-nuclear-news.org/default.aspx

It seems to sum up the official information coming out quite well.

[Tom.]

Originally Posted by Zippy

I don't think they are.

http://twitter.com/#search?q=japan%20pearl%20harbor

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Some of them are apparently, it's been trending on Twitter and I read an article saying it was happening on Facebook too.

Yep - I recall seeing it starting to gain speed around Sunday or thereabouts.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by James

Unfortunately, there is a lot of childishness and irresponsibility on the Internet. People think they can say anything because they are effectively anonymous and are never (or rarely at most) held to account for anything they say.

Very true.... and to confirm exactly that....

Originally Posted by Tom.

http://twitter.com/#search?q=japan%20pearl%20harbor

Some of the comments must come from completely warped minds - or sheer idiocy. May these people who leave such messages never have to experience anything remotely like like - they will rue the day.

Update from BBC
2022: The head of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), Yukiya Amano, has said he wants more timely and detailed information about developments at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant from the Japanese authorities. "The problem is very complicated, we do not have all the details of the information so what we can do is limited," he told a news conference in Vienna, according to Reuters

If communications are disrupted - it's going to be very difficult to get info.

Its the poor (brave and dedicated) souls still working in the Plants that are to be truly commended. God knows what hell they may possibly face from a health perspective.

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by Tom.

http://twitter.com/#search?q=japan%20pearl%20harbor

personally I don't take a few anonymous idiots on the internet seriously

they certainly don't represent American opinion generally

[Benjamin]

Two crew members on an Australian search and rescue helicopter showed low levels of radiation contamination after they were forced to make an emergency landing in Fukushima on Wednesday, AFP news agency reports. Australian Prime Minister Julia Gillard was quoted as saying the radiation was detected on their boots. They landed about 12 miles (20km) outside the exclusion zone surrounding the plant.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12307698

[Josy]

A spike in radiation levels at Japan's stricken Fukushima nuclear plant forces workers to suspend their operations

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12755739

[Benjamin]

An earthquake hits eastern Japan, with the force strong enough to sway buildings in Tokyo

More details on that new quake. No tsunami warning was immediately issued, but the Japan Meteorological Agency said a change in sea levels was possible, the AFP reports.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12307698

[Novo]

0422: The Japan Meteorological Agency said it was a 6.0 magnitude quake in the Pacific just off Chiba prefecture.

[Pyramid*]

0847: The UK's Daily Telegraph has a piece based on Wikileaks cables saying Japan was warned by the IAEA more than two years ago that its nuclear power plants were not capable of withstanding powerful earthquakes.

Now what was that being mentioned earlier about, " it's a bit presumptuous to make their govt. look like they've done something wrong when it could all well just be an unavoidable disaster".
To the contrary, if this report is correct - they may well have done something wrong - in not taking any corrective action 2 years ago - as far as the situ now in nuclear plants are concerned.

[Kerry]

Only saw the news briefly earlier but it looked like it was snowing? It's like Mother Nature is taking the piss in Japan