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Kate! · 02-09-2011, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Vicky.

I'm not making any excuses for his bad points.

I disagree with his views on gay people and women.

But I still think hes real, and funny, and thats why I still like him

All very good points.

What you see is what you get with Paddy, he is genuine. Yes, he has some questionable opinions to say the least, but he is real. If Darryn goes I think he will move more to the forefront as Darryn seems to stifle his personality to some extent. I loved him when he lost his rag and threatened to throw Jedward through the screen. Unlike Kerry's totally false rant at them for trashing the bedroom. She kept smirking while she was saying it ffs. The only decent pick Pam made to save was Paddy! I'd love him to at least make the final.

Ammi · 02-09-2011, 10:39 AM

To be fair to Bobby, at least he had the guts to question Paddy and say if you've got something to say against Jedward, just say it and stop mumbling under you're breath. Of course he looked shocked with Paddy's reaction, I don't think any of us would assume someone was going to take an aggressive stance, just because we disagreed with them. It was total over reaction and very revealing about Paddy. The Point is, Bobby pulled him up in the first place, the rest of them wouldn't have the guts to even get that far

Niamh. · 02-09-2011, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi

To be fair to Bobby, at least he had the guts to question Paddy and say if you've got something to say against Jedward, just say it and stop mumbling under you're breath. Of course he looked shocked with Paddy's reaction, I don't think any of us would assume someone was going to take an aggressive stance, just because we disagreed with them. It was total over reaction and very revealing about Paddy. The Point is, Bobby pulled him up in the first place, the rest of them wouldn't have the guts to even get that far

MaratSafinForever · 02-09-2011, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

I'd rather someone pretend to be nice then really be horrible. (not saying he's horrible, just in general)

In other words, you like false people.

I don't know if Paddy's overrated or not but he's definitely more 'real' than any of the other housemates.

Niamh. · 02-09-2011, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by MaratSafinForever

In other words, you like false people.

I don't know if Paddy's overrated or not but he's definitely more 'real' than any of the other housemates.

Not at all, but I believe someone pretending to be nice is the lesser of two evils over someone who's actually a wanker

Give me a real nice person over both of those anyday.

Josy · 02-09-2011, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele

I still don't mind him but shopping in Asda early this morning,I was listening to the staff going on about CBB( very good opinion barometers Asda staff,they got all the eviction predictions right last year as to BB,even Ben's surprise eviction),a good few of them said they had gone right off Paddy for his aggression last night towards Bobby.
I think he may have just made a big error coming across as threatening just for someone saying he was mumbling.

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

No matter how smug Bobby is, Paddy still doesn't have the right to get annoyed with him because he likes someone that he doesn't. And he was mumbling, he needs subtitles ffs

I don't think he was being aggressive because Bobby had a different opinion from him tbh, I think he acted that way because he's had a stroke that affected his speech, and Bobby told him to stop mumbling, he's probably self concious about it and there was no need for Bobby to point that out to him really.

I like Paddy because as others have said in here, he's the only one thats being himself.

Suze · 02-09-2011, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Josy

I don't think he was being aggressive because Bobby had a different opinion from him tbh, I think he acted that way because he's had a stroke that affected his speech, and Bobby told him to stop mumbling, he's probably self concious about it and there was no need for Bobby to point that out to him really.

I like Paddy because as others have said in here, he's the only one thats being himself.

I understand liking someone for being themselves, but what if being themselves is not that nice though? Does that mean ok, they are horrible, but being themselves so that is ok? I am not saying Paddy in particular, but the point in general

Niamh. · 02-09-2011, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Suze

I understand liking someone for being themselves, but what if being themselves is not that nice though? Does that mean ok, they are horrible, but being themselves so that is ok? I am not saying Paddy in particular, but the point in general

Yeah, this is my point too. That seems to be the common excuse for complete arseholes/bad behaviour in BB, "well atleast he's being real". We all feel like being horrible sometimes but most of us can keep it under wraps, that's not being false, it's having some self control.

Livia · 02-09-2011, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Josy

I don't think he was being aggressive because Bobby had a different opinion from him tbh, I think he acted that way because he's had a stroke that affected his speech, and Bobby told him to stop mumbling, he's probably self concious about it and there was no need for Bobby to point that out to him really.

I like Paddy because as others have said in here, he's the only one thats being himself.

First post on this thread I've agreed with 100%. Just because Bobby didn't sit up and lean towards Paddy doesn't mean he wasn't being aggressive in what he said.

Niamh. · 02-09-2011, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia

First post on this thread I've agreed with 100%. Just because Bobby didn't sit up and lean towards Paddy doesn't mean he wasn't being aggressive in what he said.

He said that after Paddy accused him of being a liar because he didn't agree with Paddys opinion, I'd be pretty annoyed as well if someone said that to me.

Zippy · 02-09-2011, 11:26 AM

this being real thing is such BS. And ironic considering that he recently testified in another of his classy court cases that all his machospeak about being some savage merciless fighter was just for the cameras. Maybe he means stuff like such;

He was quoted as having said in the Deadliest Men show: "I'd bite your eyes and bite your lips off and I won't spit them out so you could sew them back on, I'd swallow them to disfigure you."

And the word honest is not really appropriate for somebody who seems to exist in a world of dodgy dealings and criminal savage behaviour. But yeah, he's real so all is forgiven.

His sexist attitude and homophobic beliefs are real too. Real as Jades alleged racism.

All these women drooling over him just backs up my theory that women secretly want a neanderthal. Also confirms what I suggested earlier that viewers decide they like a HM and then adjust their moral compass accordingly.

Josy · 02-09-2011, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Suze

I understand liking someone for being themselves, but what if being themselves is not that nice though? Does that mean ok, they are horrible, but being themselves so that is ok? I am not saying Paddy in particular, but the point in general

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yeah, this is my point too. That seems to be the common excuse for complete arseholes/bad behaviour in BB, "well atleast he's being real". We all feel like being horrible sometimes but most of us can keep it under wraps, that's not being false, it's having some self control.

Yeah fair points but I have yet to see Paddy doing anything in there that would make me think he's a horrible nasty person.

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

He said that after Paddy accused him of being a liar because he didn't agree with Paddys opinion, I'd be pretty annoyed as well if someone said that to me.

If you watch it back you will see Paddy never once called him a liar, and he only sat up the way he did when Bobby mentioned his mumbling.

JAJ1942 · 02-09-2011, 11:29 AM

I really can't see why he is so popular, you can't understand him, he is a neanderthal

Niamh. · 02-09-2011, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Josy

Yeah fair points but I have yet to see Paddy doing anything in there that would make me think he's a horrible nasty person.

If you watch it back you will see Paddy never once called him a liar, and he only sat up the way he did when Bobby mentioned his mumbling.

He absolutely called him liar! He may not have said those exact words but he said something to the effect of, "You'd see them outside the house? and go for a pint with them?" I believe he was laughing and shaking his head when Bobby said yeah, implying that he was a liar, his whole tone was suggesting that he didn't believe Bobby.

Niamh. · 02-09-2011, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Zippy

this being real thing is such BS. And ironic considering that he recently testified in another of his classy court cases that all his machospeak about being some savage merciless fighter was just for the cameras. Maybe he means stuff like such;

He was quoted as having said in the Deadliest Men show: "I'd bite your eyes and bite your lips off and I won't spit them out so you could sew them back on, I'd swallow them to disfigure you."

And the word honest is not really appropriate for somebody who seems to exist in a world of dodgy dealings and criminal savage behaviour. But yeah, he's real so all is forgiven.

His sexist attitude and homophobic beliefs are real too. Real as Jades alleged racism.

All these women drooling over him just backs up my theory that women secretly want a neanderthal. Also confirms what I suggested earlier that viewers decide they like a HM and then adjust their moral compass accordingly.

Exactly Zippy. Though I disagree with your last point, I like manly men yes but not neanderthals, there is a difference

Ammi · 02-09-2011, 11:41 AM

Tbh it's not just the Paddy/Bobby thing for me, it was the fact that he didn't even know Kerry's name. He's just spent two weeks in a house with maximum of nine other people, has had several one to one conversations with Kerry, was one half of the twin task with her and he can't even be bothered to learn her name. Total bloody ignorance

Suze · 02-09-2011, 11:44 AM

I suppose I have a pre concieved bias towards Paddy because I was married into a family, yes it was like I was married to the family

of Gypsy stock, one of the family was even shot and killed in a Police shoot. I know how close and also nasty some of those families can be and it isn't always pretty, am so glad I am not part of that family anymore. One of the worst mistakes ever marrying into that but it has hopefully improved my perception of people since. But even so, from the little I have gleaned from the highlight eviction shows and the tweets plus posts, I see no reason to change my opinion of Paddy.

Plus Zippy, I find your points above quite relevant, it's like we are expected to praise and laud such people, and why should we?

chuff me dizzy · 02-09-2011, 11:49 AM

Lovely,gentleman ,and only worthy winner

Niamh. · 02-09-2011, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Lovely,gentleman ,and only worthy winner

Gentleman??

chuff me dizzy · 02-09-2011, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

Gentleman??

Yes

Suze · 02-09-2011, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

Gentleman??

Definition of the word Gentleman from Dictionary.com:

. A man of good family, breeding, or social position.
. A civilized, educated, sensitive, or well-mannered man: He behaved like a true gentleman.
. A male personal servant, especially of a man of social position; valet.