[Beastie]

Is Tom going to leave the BB house to go to his grandad's funeral then come back? Or is he just not going to the funeral?

[MeMyselfAndI]

I hope he leaves for good. Hes just a filler HM, completely boring.

[Jordan.]

I think he is allowed to come back. Quite unfair that he'' be able to find out nominations, bookies favourite etc.

[CharlieO]

Oh ffs.

[Beastie]

It's all a bit stupid really. He will start suddenly changing after he comes back from the funeral. Know who the favourites are and that

[TheManWhoLaughs]

Jonathan BB8 had to leave when his grandma died and he didn't get to come back; Tom definitely shouldn't be allowed to.

You could just do a Jonny Fairplay from Survivor and make up a lie about your grandparents dying just so you get more sympathy from the other players

[Beastie]

Originally Posted by TheManWhoLaughs

Jonathan BB8 had to leave when his grandma died and he didn't get to come back; Tom definitely shouldn't be allowed to.

You could just do a Jonny Fairplay from Survivor and make up a lie about your grandparents dying just so you get more sympathy from the other players

He is fame hungry. Choose to stay on BB rather than leave the house and give support to his family

[MeMyselfAndI]

If he goes to the funeral he shouldn't be allowed to come back.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by MeMyselfandI

If he goes to the funeral he shouldn't be allowed to come back.

I agree. I realise it sounds cold hearted, but to go out, be able to check press coverage, internet etc then be allowed back in armed with that info....that's how the whole JJJ started up last year and it ruined the show.

[Beastie]

Originally Posted by MeMyselfandI

If he goes to the funeral he shouldn't be allowed to come back.

True. It should be a choice of going to the funeral or staying in the BB house.

Wonder how long he was in the task room with his family for when they broke the news to him?

[Black Dagger]

Originally Posted by Beastie

True. It should be a choice of going to the funeral or staying in the BB house.

Wonder how long he was in the task room with his family for when they broke the news to him?

20 minutes it said in the HL show.

[joeysteele]

I think someone from BB should go with him if he decides he would like to attend the funeral, no matter where or what I was doing I would want to be at any of my Grandparents and for that matter any family member's funeral.

I would not expect to suffer any penalties for doing so either,some people's lives can get pretty messed up if they miss a close relatives funeral.
He should certainly be at least taken to the service and allowed to return. Even some people in Prisons are allowed to go to funerals of parents,Grandparents.

I doubt BB will be on many peoples minds at the service to say the last goodbyes to a loved family member anyway. He can easily be brought straight back after the service.
He may even would like the honour of helping carry his Grandfathers coffin.I helped carry my Grandmothers and no one would have stopped me going to her funeral.I would have fought tooth and nail against any penalty against me either for attending her funeral though.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I think someone from BB should go with him if he decides he would like to attend the funeral, no matter where or what I was doing I would want to be at any of my Grandparents and for that matter any family member's funeral.

I would not expect to suffer any penalties for doing so either,some people's lives can get pretty messed up if they miss a close relatives funeral.
He should certainly be at least taken to the service and allowed to return. Even some people in Prisons are allowed to go to funerals of parents,Grandparents.

I doubt BB will be on many peoples minds at the service to say the last goodbyes to a loved family member anyway. He can easily be brought straight back after the service.
He may even would like the honour of helping carry his Grandfathers coffin.I helped carry my Grandmothers and no one would have stopped me going to her funeral.I would have fought tooth and nail against any penalty against me either for attending her funeral though.

the horrible cynic in me thinks, how come, within minutes of breaking the news to the hms: was he laughing with them about ''think how much I could get away with, with this....go fetch me a glass of water etc".

Yes, it could have been a flippant comment, but it made me think that either something was not right, or that he was not that close to his grandfather.

I am probably very very wrong, but I'm going to say what I thought.

[InOne]

It's a tricky situation really, wondered how they'd handle it. It was a bit odd they said the family were only keeping strong because of him being in the BB :S And yet he's going to the funeral. If you were that close you'd want to leave and support your family anyway

[TheManWhoLaughs]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I think someone from BB should go with him if he decides he would like to attend the funeral, no matter where or what I was doing I would want to be at any of my Grandparents and for that matter any family member's funeral.

I would not expect to suffer any penalties for doing so either,some people's lives can get pretty messed up if they miss a close relatives funeral.

Big Brother is a game - he should be allowed to stop playing it if he needs to leave. But letting people go and come back in completely dilutes the impact of being isolated from the rest of society which is what the show is supposed to be about. Obviously family is more important than the game, which is why he should just go and not come back; Evel Dick left US BB13 because of an issue with a friend and wasn't allowed back in, even though he's one of the biggest characters in the history of the show.

The only time they should ever let people come back is as a result of medical issues from the house (like Vanessa's broken ankle or the allergies in BB9 US).

[billy123]

I cant believe anybody would be enough of a dick to begrudge a young lad that just lost a member of his family a visit out to their funeral.
Being a **** about it just because of what you think of him as a housemate is just another level of stupid.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

the horrible cynic in me thinks, how come, within minutes of breaking the news to the hms: was he laughing with them about ''think how much I could get away with, with this....go fetch me a glass of water etc".

Yes, it could have been a flippant comment, but it made me think that either something was not right, or that he was not that close to his grandfather.

I am probably very very wrong, but I'm going to say what I thought.

Of course you should say your take on it too, you are very understanding anyway.

I was just putting how I would react and feel, I am only 19 but have seen already many different reactions to deaths of loved ones.

One of my cousins when my Grandmother died decided she wanted us to play monopoly,it was her way of dealing with it and hiding real emotion.

I have friends who went out and got drunk after the loss of a loved one,others just sat there silent not wanting to do anything or see anyone.
Some went quiet or got snappy, others broke down and cried for ages,others made jokes of things and giggled and laughed at silly things.
Life has already taught me that there are no norms as to reactions when someone dies that's close to you but I do believe for sure that BB will have thoroughly checked out everything was fully correct before anyone finally was allowed to and got to talk to Tom in person at the BB house.

He's among virtual strangers, he likely hadn't a clue how to react,just like Aaron and some others who when hearing Tom's Grandfather had died didn't seem to know what to do and say.

If I was running BB he would be asked if he wanted to go to the funeral,if he said he did want to attend it then I would have someone go with him and bring him back after the service,out of basic compassion. The other question is would his Grandfather have wanted him at his funeral, I'd bet of course he would.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Of course you should say your take on it too, you are very understanding anyway.

I was just putting how I would react and feel, I am only 19 but have seen already many different reactions to deaths of loved ones.

One of my cousins when my Grandmother died decided she wanted us to play monopoly,it was her way of dealing with it and hiding real emotion.

I have friends who went out and got drunk after the loss of a loved one,others just sat there silent not wanting to do anything or see anyone.
Some went quiet or got snappy, others broke down and cried for ages,others made jokes of things and giggled and laughed at silly things.
Life has already taught me that there are no norms as to reactions when someone dies that's close to you but I do believe for sure that BB will have thoroughly checked out everything was fully correct before anyone finally was allowed to and got to talk to Tom in person at the BB house.

He's among virtual strangers, he likely hadn't a clue how to react,just like Aaron and some others who when hearing Tom's Grandfather had died didn't seem to know what to do and say.

If I was running BB he would be asked if he wanted to go to the funeral,if he said he did want to attend it then I would have someone go with him and bring him back after the service,out of basic compassion. The other question is would his Grandfather have wanted him at his funeral, I'd bet of course he would.

Oh I realise that we all deal with things differently and I do not find fault in any of what you have described above.

The part I found strange was: this was only 20 MINUTES after the news.

I'm cynical and that's me. I'm not saying I am right, or that he was wrong, we all react very very differently.

I know when I experienced the call to tell me when my first grand parent died: I was about 23? not much older than Tom and as cold and callous as I can be, I still couldn't have cracked a joke in the first 30minutes.

Differnt folks, different stroke, and he is in a very weird situation.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Oh I realise that we all deal with things differently and I do not find fault in any of what you have described above.

The part I found strange was: this was only 20 MINUTES after the news.

I'm cynical and that's me. I'm not saying I am right, or that he was wrong, we all react very very differently.

I know when I experienced the call to tell me when my first grand parent died: I was about 23? not much older than Tom and as cold and callous as I can be, I still couldn't have cracked a joke in the first 30minutes.

Differnt folks, different stroke, and he is in a very weird situation.

He is in a weird situation and place too.

You were 5 years older than me when I lost my Grandmother,I couldn't have cracked jokes either, I went for a very long walk on my own to a lot of the areas I had spent time with my Grandmother at

Also, Pyramid, I could never agree that you could be cold and callous,you are one of the really nicest and most honest people I've come across.

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

I think he should be allowed to go, but i think a member of BB staff should go with him, but as someone already said, i dont think he would be that callous & look on the internet & stuff to get all the gossip of who's favourite, he will just be wanting to spend a little time with his family.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

He is in a weird situation and place too.

You were 5 years older than me when I lost my Grandmother,I couldn't have cracked jokes either, I went for a very long walk on my own to a lot of the areas I had spent time with my Grandmother at

Also, Pyramid, I could never agree that you could be cold and callous,you are one of the really nicest and most honest people I've come across.

Aww Thanks Joey.



*I'll throw in an extra £50 this week for your bribery services*