[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by jet

Where did I say I had 20 years experience working with homosexuals? Honestly, the Aaron protection league is working overboard on this thread. I said I had worked with gay youths - but did not mention for how long. Just like others, you are putting words into my mouth I did not say.
I repeat, BB is a game show, and the HM's put themselves up for scrutiny by the public when they enter the house. I can choose to scrutinize any HM I please within the rules of this board, using my professional experience or not as I wish.
You all really should calm down - Aaron is not God. And I find it hilarious that you think my behaviour is 'odd' and criticize it whenever Aaron behaviour is distinctly odd and you all praise it. Very strange. I have a professional opinion about that but I'll not voice it as I wouldn't want words put into my mouth again.

Oddly enough, I have a quite good memory, and remembered you saying something similar during BB10. Only then you were calling on your experience to defend a housemate you liked, rather than against a housemate you didnt like. So forgive me if I think the majority of what you say is absolute crap.

Originally Posted by jet

Yes, I have a problem with prejudice against butch lesbians. I have been a volunteer in my community for over 20 years trying to further equal rights for homosexuals. I have seen too many young people commit suicide, I have seen too many people beat up and even murdered because of their sexuality to be complacent and let things go.

So...was this untrue then?

[Samuel.]

Originally Posted by Patrick

His son is like 6...

It's a lie - The Lord is kidding, take a joke.

9 months of pregnancy.

Though maybe you're right about it being a joke.

[jet]

Originally Posted by angus58

Your post to which I responded speaks for itself, and cannot be interpreted in any other way. It is extremely disingenuous of you to try and backtrack and take the moral high ground. You invoked your "professional" opinion about a man's sexuality and mental health based on watching a few minutes of severely edited scenes shown on a reality entertainment show. You implied your "professional" opinion was somehow superior to the layman's and when you were called out on it, you tried to backtrack.

Report away - you don't have a leg to stand on.

I ask again that you quote where I have said something homophobic or offensive. As you have not already done so, I take it that you can't back up your allegations.
Once again, I did not 'invoke my professional opinion' - Since I had not been consulted and paid for my services, I used my own experiences, as you all do, to form an opinion on a MB which is there for that purpose. As I have not been told that mentioning a profession is not allowed, I will give an opinion whenever I please.
Aaron needs to get help when he gets out of the BB house. Perhaps he would like my number.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Oddly enough, I have a quite good memory, and remembered you saying something similar during BB10. Only then you were calling on your experience to defend a housemate you liked, rather than against a housemate you didnt like. So forgive me if I think the majority of what you say is absolute crap.



So...was this untrue then?

No, it was true. A lot of my work involved gay youths. I was pointing out that nowhere on this thread did I say that I had 20 years experience working with homosexuals. It was one example of someone inventing words I did not say.
As you have such a good memory, I assume you remember that my fav HM in BB10 was Lisa, who was a lesbian. I would think from my postings of that time that you are perfectly aware I am not homophobic yet you let me be branded as one and said nothing. You only posted when you thought you had 'caught me out'. How selective you are.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by jet

No, it was true. A lot of my work involved gay youths. I was pointing out that nowhere on this thread did I say that I had 20 years experience working with homosexuals. It was one example of someone inventing words I did not say.
As you have such a good memory, I assume you remember that my fav HM in BB10 was Lisa, who was a lesbian. I would think from my postings of that time that you are perfectly aware I am not homophobic yet you let me be branded as one and said nothing. You only posted when you thought you had 'caught me out'. How selective you are.

I only remember Lisa was your fave, and your 20 years of experience because you repeatedly called ME(and a few others) homophobic back then purely for not liking Lisa. Dont flatter yourself

Personally, I would say it was quite homophobic to say someone is closetted based on their mannerisms and behaviour, but clearly you disagree.

[jet]

So forgive me if I think the majority of what you say is absolute crap.

That is offensive, and I don't forgive you.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by jet

That is offensive, and I don't forgive you.

Ah well. I'm sure I'll survive.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Ah well. I'm sure I'll survive.

Pass the tissues please Vicky

[jet]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I only remember Lisa was your fave, and your 20 years of experience because you repeatedly called ME(and a few others) homophobic back then purely for not liking Lisa. Dont flatter yourself

Personally, I would say it was quite homophobic to say someone is closetted based on their mannerisms alone, but clearly you disagree.

So your memory is only good when it works in your favour. And haven't you just admitted you knew I wasn't homophobic?
....and there you go again, putting words into my mouth - quote where I said I based my opinion on mannerisms alone....

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by jet

So your memory is only good when it works in your favour. And haven't you just admitted you knew I wasn't homophobic?
....and there you go again, putting words into my mouth - quote where I said I based my opinion on mannerisms alone....

So what DID you base that on then? Since we see small edited to hell clips only?

I dont know you arent homophobic either, so I wont admit that. Just because you claim to have worked for 20 years with homosexuals(brought up to defend your fave at the time) doesnt mean you have, or are not homophobic Nor does the fact that you once liked a lesbian on BB and defended her in any way possible.

And no, my memory is good when events clearly stand out in my mind because of how absurd they were in the first place.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

So what DID you base that on then? Since we see small edited to hell clips only?

I dont know you arent homophobic either, so I wont admit that. Just because you claim to have worked for 20 years with homosexuals(brought up to defend your fave at the time) doesnt mean you have, or are not homophobic Nor does the fact that you once liked a lesbian on BB and defended her in any way possible.

And no, my memory is good when events clearly stand out in my mind because of how absurd they were in the first place.

I'm hardly going to give the reasons I based it on now, am I? I'd prefer not to be harrassed all over again.
I think it is rather desperate and stalkerish to go and search someone's posts of over 2 years ago to try and discredit them. Very underhand behaviour, in my book.
For the record, I don't give a toss whether you think I am homophobic or a liar. I know I'm an honest person. I just happen to have opinions you don't like. Too bad. Get over it.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by jet

I'm hardly going to give the reasons I based it on now, am I? I'd prefer not to be harrassed all over again.
I think it is rather desperate and stalkerish to go and search someone's posts of over 2 years ago to try and discredit them. Very underhand behaviour, in my book.
For the record, I don't give a toss whether you think I am homophobic or a liar. I know I'm an honest person. I just happen to have opinions you don't like. Too bad. Get over it.

As I thought

Also, for the record, it takes literally 5 seconds to search 'jet' and 'lisa' and 'homophobic. The things I knew it contained. I didnt read back over every one of your posts from BB10 if thats what you are trying to imply.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

As I thought

So you criticize me for giving opinions based on my professional experience and then you give a smug response when I don't give them. I'm damned if I do and damned if I don't. Good lord.
I think Aaron has affected your thinking. Go take a cold shower or something.

[Vicky.]

You gave nothing based on your professional experience in the first place. You simply gave your opinion and made out that it was based on professional experience.

This is the problem that most people had with your posts in this thread.

Something you seem unable to comprehend.

[jet]

Also, for the record, it takes literally 5 seconds to search 'jet' and 'lisa' and 'homophobic. The things I knew it contained. I didnt read back over every one of your posts from BB10 if thats what you are trying to imply.

I find it disturbing that you would search for the words 'jet' and 'homophobic' in the first place. It gives me the shivers to think of you tapping away on your computer looking for something to discredit me. I think I need to log off for a while.

[Vicky.]

Of course I would search those words given that i remembered a post you made about the same thing, that contained those words.

Get over yourself, as if I would just randomly search for your name and homophobic in the hope that something came up

[Foebane100]

Can we lock this whole thread it is a pile of rubbish

[boomoo]

Originally Posted by jet

Many gay men marry and have children and their wives have no idea. Surely you know that? They say 'but he was so PASSIONATE' etc...Aaron definitely has serious issues of one kind or another. We can only guess what those might be...

Well his first action was on Tom
If that was not serious then it was an attention grab.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by boomoo

Well his first action was on Tom
If that was not serious then it was an attention grab.

Or they were playing a game? Noirin snogged Angel in BB10 and no one made out she was a closet lesbian ..............funny that

[jet]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Of course I would search those words given that i remembered a post you made about the same thing, that contained those words.

Get over yourself, as if I would just randomly search for your name and homophobic in the hope that something came up

But you did just that. And what do you mean 'of course I would search those words'? Do you do this sort of thing all the time then? Creepy stuff.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by jet

But you did just that. And what do you mean 'of course I would search those words'? Do you do this sort of thing all the time then? Creepy stuff.

Yup, if I clearly remember a post that would fit in with the current conversation

I fail to see how it is creepy either, many many people use the search function on a regular basis

[jet]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Yup, if I clearly remember a post that would fit in with the current conversation

I fail to see how it is creepy either, many many people use the search function on a regular basis

Do they use it to look up stuff over 2 years old because they want to find something to use against someone? Don't try to put others in the same light as yourself. That's pathetic.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by jet

Do they use it to look up stuff over 2 years old because they want to find something to use against someone? Don't try to put others in the same light as yourself. That's pathetic.

I dont know, ask the people who use it

And LOL at how worked up you are getting over this. You did make the post, I remembered it, big bloody deal

[jet]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I dont know, ask the people who use it

And LOL at how worked up you are getting over this. You did make the post, I remembered it, big bloody deal

Remembering a post of mine from so long ago and searching for it 'makes my skin crawl'.... echoing the words of Nicky on tonights BOTS when she was referring to Aaron.

[Vicky.]

Ah well. Again, I can live with that