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Old 15-12-2011, 02:21 AM #1
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Justice secretary Ken Clarke has ruled out expanding the relaxation on TV cameras in courtrooms during criminal trials to include witness testimony.

In September, the government confirmed that the ban on television cameras being allowed to film inside law courts is to be overturned, as part of plans to improve "public confidence" in the justice system.

However, MPs have expressed concern that court hearings could become "theatrical" after the move, while some defendants could use legal privilege to harass their victims.

Conservative MP Christopher Pincher said that court officials and lawyers must be protected from "unwanted attention", adding that while justice must "be seen to be done, it mustn't be seen to be fun".

Speaking yesterday, Clarke insisted that courts would not become 'theatres' as filming would be limited to just the judges' remarks, reports the Press Gazette.

He also confirmed that the ban on filming would be lifted first to allow judgements in the Court of Appeal, expanding to the Crown Court "in due course".

"We will not allow filming of jurors, victims and witnesses under any circumstances," he told MPs.

"So far as the judge is concerned, giving a sentence or a judgment, he is a public official forming a public function. His words can be quoted, he will be reported and there is no real reason why he shouldn't be filmed.

"But other people need to be protected because otherwise the whole nature of the proceedings will change. Some people will be intimidated and some people will have their behaviour affected."

Chris Bryant MP asked whether defendants could use the arrival of television cameras to launch damaging attacks on their victims.

But Clarke insisted that the new system would be subject to tight controls preventing such problems.

"I strongly disprove any attempt for this to be used for people to make allegations against the victims or for the defendant to make a theatrical display in the witness box or for the jurors' reaction to be filmed or anything of this kind," he added.

"We are talking about the judgments and what is said as part of his official duties by the judge and at this stage I am not contemplating going any further."

Meanwhile, new guidance has been issued allowing journalists to tweet, text or email during court proceedings in England and Wales without first having to make an application.

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At least it won't be filming witnesses. I'm kind of in two minds really, I do think it might make the whole thing a bit farcical but it could also be of benefit to allow such things to be seen, I dunno I don't have a very strong opinion on this really
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It's the thin end of the wedge - trial participants already play to the "gallery", now we'll have them playing to the "camera" .....
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I'm caught on this one - I can find reasons for, and reasons against: but underneath - I don't think it's right.

I understand it perhaps being filmed but not used in the public domain -but therein lies the issue of leaks etc...... I'm really not sure it's the right way to go.
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well it's a catch 22 isn't it? If you don't allow cameras yur accused of secrecy and not being transparent, and if you do, yur accused of sensationalism and exploitation.
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I'm against it. The law isn't showbusiness.
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I'm caught on this one - I can find reasons for, and reasons against: but underneath - I don't think it's right.

I understand it perhaps being filmed but not used in the public domain -but therein lies the issue of leaks etc...... I'm really not sure it's the right way to go.


No you can not Judge it yet

Lets wait and see what Edits get on Real TV.




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Does this mean we can make out own version of Judge Judy?
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Does this mean we can make out own version of Judge Judy?

Maybe it could go on the New Ch6
which is doing local news in some places
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I'm against it. The law isn't showbusiness.

No its not like the Yanks do it.

Its Edits only
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[TV cameras are to be allowed into criminal trials
for the first time from tomorrow but will
only be able to film a few minutes of each case.
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https://news.sky.com/story/tv-camera...-time-12659784

28/7/22


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Is Christopher pincher first on?
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Conservative MP Christopher Pincher said that court officials and lawyers must be protected from "unwanted attention






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Man Ken Clarke justice secretary feels like a lifetime ago
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[TV cameras are to be allowed into criminal trials
for the first time from tomorrow but will
only be able to film a few minutes of each case.
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https://news.sky.com/story/tv-camera...-time-12659784

28/7/22


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TV Cameras in courtrooms !?!

That’s nothing !!





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TV Cameras in courtrooms !?!

That’s nothing !!





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10:30AM today Live on SkyNewsHD
will go to a Judge Only announcing a conclusion.

So just a Live Edit.

SkyNews described the case
A youngster (Ben Oliver) who killed his Grandfather

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"TV Cameras in courtrooms !"

Yes Zizu
the top of Africa
will want Extreme Conclusions
to scare their public.
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Conservative MP Christopher Pincher said that court officials and lawyers must be protected from "unwanted attention






Lol.

Yes only the Judge,


Amazing Pincher whose actions of touching up younger men,
brought down
the Prime Minister,
spoke back in 2011 (first post)



He is a Perv MP
no longer in the Conservatives, now
an Independent MP
who should be kicked out on the next
General Election

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On TV News
now


Lady Judge
reading from her laptop
Delayed Live Feed
Old Bailey.

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Going through the 21 stabs in the old man
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[The first televised sentencing,
which will make history,
will take place at the Old Bailey on Thursday,
featuring the case of 25-year-old Ben Oliver,
who admitted manslaughter after stabbing
his elderly grandfather to death.]

https://news.sky.com/story/tv-camera...-time-12659784
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The Lady Judge
has given Ben Oliver
who has Autism,
a Life Sentence.

9 years still serve.

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Caught a bit of it this morning and I thought it was very boring.

Switched it off about 3 minutes in.
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Caught a bit of it this morning and I thought it was very boring.

Switched it off about 3 minutes in.

No, it was good seeing the Lady Judge
explain it all.
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