[Kizzy]

What makes a child do this?...
Can anyone truly be born evil?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-17540452

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

time to axe coronation street

[Jack_]

No one is 'born evil'. And programmes like Coronation Street don't influence everybody to go out and start murdering people.

Some people are easily influenced, others are not. You can't really predict things like this, and as sad as it is, it doesn't mean we should start axing programmes or suggesting that people are simply 'born evil'. It's the same as the whole debate over whether violent video games make people violent, i.e. just dumb.

[Benjamin]

Jesus, how anyone can do this to anyone, let alone your own mother is beyond me. I don't think TV or film can be blamed for this. He was clearly unstable and anything could have triggered it off, it's a shame they didn't identify his instability sooner.

[Jack_]

It's very sad though. Hope the kid gets looked at and gets some help, it's quite evident he needs it.

[Patrick]

He doesn't deserve help. He deserves to be locked up for many, many decades to come.
Sick bastard.

[Livia]

He was watching films that he was meant to be protected from. There is a film classicifaction for a reason. Only parents are responsible for what their kids watch. Having said that, I don't think watching films or playing games can make someone violent. It may desensitise them to it, but I don't think it would make them commit murder. Otherwise, surely anyone reading Edgar Allen Poe a hundred plus years ago would surely have been urged to go out and kill.

I think anyone who can kill hos mother with a hammer, then lay clues to try to deceive the police is a very sick individual who will probably never recover, and should never be returned to society.

[InOne]

People might not be born evil but they can be born without a conscience that leads to evil. Their envioment plays the part to what that evil may be. I agree with Livia, he should never be allowed back into society.

[Ammi]

..I don't believe people are born evil..I don't know why he was allowed to watch violent horror films when he was 8..but the fact that he even wanted to..should have raised some alarm bells..but I'm not judging on that..it just may have got some much needed help..I don't know how much difference that would have made..if any at all
This is a very sad story..and I feel very sad for him too..I know what he did was horrific..and for that he will pay the price...but he must have been a very unhappy boy

[Benjamin]

I watched horror films like 'Nightmare on Elm Street' when I was a kid and read adult horror books also, I was obsessed with horror, I still am, yet I never went went and murdered anyone. This kid clearly has issues in the head, ones that would have found some way to come out in a violent form eventually.

[Marc]

I read how he wrote a story about a boy who killed his mother with a hammer before all of this.

The boy is twisted.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Marc

I read how he wrote a story about a boy who killed his mother with a hammer before all of this.

The boy is twisted.

..apparently it was based on a Corrie story..but he changed the names to his and his mums..it seemed to have been a planned thing..even though it started with an argument...it's very disturbing

[Marc]

I hope this dude is never set free on society again...

[Marc]

And I also hope they don't show soaps in whatever prison/confinement they send him to.

[Scarlett.]

Its funny that papers like the Daily Mail ignore stuff like this:

However, Bartlam failed to settle at his new school and in 2010 was referred to a school counsellor following a classroom incident where he became upset and began shouting and screaming at his tie, which he called "Fred", telling fellow pupils that it was "trying to hurt him".

and go straight into blaming the media.

[Marc]

Poor woman. R.I.P

[Vanessa]

I also watched horror movies when i was a kid, but i'm no killer. I think the kid had already some kind of mental problems.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Scott

time to axe coronation street

No


He Also watched Adult 18 rated saw Movies.


Feck All to do with that ITV1HD Soap.


That Kid was out of control
Private School is what got him into Evil.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Marc

I hope this dude is never set free on society again...

Hmmm..look at the killers of James Bulger

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by arista

No


He Also watched Adult 18 rated saw Movies.


Feck All to do with that ITV1HD Soap.


That Kid was out of control
Private School is what got him into Evil.

Really? Omg! That's bad! The horror movies i watched as a kid were heavily edited and not that bad. Like The Exorcist and The Omen.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Ammi

Hmmm..look at the killers of James Bulger

Yes
All over the World
Kids get left
to be Evil.



On this case the Mother had no Idea
her kid was going to murder her.

He tried hard to cover it all up
by burning his mother after the Evil Hammer blows.
So maybe some CSI shows in that bit.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes
All over the World
Kids get left
to be Evil.



On this case the Mother had no Idea
her kid was going to murder her.

He tried hard to cover it all up
by burning his mother after the Evil Hammer blows.
So maybe some CSI shows in that bit.

..I guess 'bits' of a lot of things will have influenced an already troubled mind..he was obviously fascinated with violence..murder..death..it's a shame no one spotted something amiss..but I don't know what you would be looking for

[Tom4784]

It's a terrible story, I must question the logic of the experts though who said he was fine. He'd obviously have to be a bit twisted to lie about his symptoms considering what they were.

While it's all well and good saying lock him up forever it's ultimately unrealistic. I just hope he gets the help he needs so that he's not a danger when he's inevitably released.

As I've said before in countless topics, media can't force anyone to do anything against their will, if someone's going to commit murder then it's a problem that's existed within the individual long before the media in question came onto the scene. I hate people that blame films, games and such for a person's actions since it's just creating a scapegoat for the offender's actions. It's vindicating them basically.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

While it's all well and good saying lock him up forever it's ultimately unrealistic. I just hope he gets the help he needs so that he's not a danger when he's inevitably released.

Exactly. Much rather he gets help than none at all.

And besides, I think all mental health issues should be looked into, regardless of whatever said person has done. It can only be a good thing, really.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

It's a terrible story, I must question the logic of the experts though who said he was fine. He'd obviously have to be a bit twisted to lie about his symptoms considering what they were.

While it's all well and good saying lock him up forever it's ultimately unrealistic. I just hope he gets the help he needs so that he's not a danger when he's inevitably released.

As I've said before in countless topics, media can't force anyone to do anything against their will, if someone's going to commit murder then it's a problem that's existed within the individual long before the media in question came onto the scene. I hate people that blame films, games and such for a person's actions since it's just creating a scapegoat for the offender's actions. It's vindicating them basically.

I think they're only blaming them because he used ideas from them..he would have got those ideas from somewhere anyway..it could have been anything really..he was obviously a very troubled boy..and perhaps had a fixation with violence...he could find that in many sources..it's narrow minded to think these are to blame