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Old 08-05-2012, 06:58 AM #1
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Default Queen's advisers tell her to drop 'empire' from honours

This was debated on Yesterday on Radio5
and this morning on the dull bbc1 breakfast.

Order British Empire could change to
Order British Excellence.
It would not be a Major problem.

OBE only started 1917
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_o...British_Empire
so it needs a update.

Those that have the empire original keep it, of course.

They will mean the same thing.

The Empire Version will go up in Value, as well.


"Huge numbers of people, from the famous to the unsung community volunteer, have been delighted to receive CBEs, OBEs and MBEs.
But in what would be another nail in the coffin of the country’s proud traditions, the Queen’s advisers want to ditch the word Empire from our medals."

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz1uG6ayGBA



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I think that's fair enough, we're not an empire anymore so why still dish out medals that are no longer true to the times?
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I think that's fair enough, we're not an empire anymore so why still dish out medals that are no longer true to the times?


Some Old Folks and the Daily Mail
do not want a change


So Tough Titty to them.

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Indeed. I hope this is the beginning of the end of the Royal Family. Utterly pointless entity nowadays.
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Well, for me its more the awards that need to be got rid of when you see some of the people who get them and for what they get them for too.

Most people give to Charities,that shouldn't be a reason for these awards,the people who get them for such are giving out of their vast excess of wealth,the poorer who give to charities are doing so from the little they have.

As was said above though, the Empire has not been relevant for a long while now so this move has been a long time coming to even just be talked about doing.
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Order British Empire could change to
Order British Excellence.
It would not be a Major problem.
The word "Excellent" is already used, since the Order is composed of five classes in civil and military divisions. In descending order of seniority, these are:
Knight or Dame Grand Cross of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire (GBE)
Knight Commander of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire (KBE) or Dame Commander of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire (DBE)
Commander of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire (CBE)
Officer of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire (OBE)
Member of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire (MBE)

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Those that have the empire original keep it, of course.
There are more than 100,000 living members of the Order throughout the world who, no doubt, will be pleased at that suggestion .....
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..I don't mind the Royal family..they pull in lot's of tourists which is good for the economy but I do think some of the old traditions could do with a little updating....
..I would start off with the National Anthem..it's absolutely dreadful and not uplifting at all imo..we need something really emotional to help us feel patriotic
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..I don't mind the Royal family..they pull in lot's of tourists which is good for the economy but I do think some of the old traditions could do with a little updating....
..I would start off with the National Anthem..it's absolutely dreadful and not uplifting at all imo..we need something really emotional to help us feel patriotic
Totally agree with all you say above Ammi, ''Look to the Rainbow'' for me.

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Indeed. I hope this is the beginning of the end of the Royal Family. Utterly pointless entity nowadays.


No they are doing a Service
and will stay in UK forever.
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Leave the poor woman alone, she'll be dead soon.
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Well, for me its more the awards that need to be got rid of when you see some of the people who get them and for what they get them for too.

Most people give to Charities,that shouldn't be a reason for these awards,the people who get them for such are giving out of their vast excess of wealth,the poorer who give to charities are doing so from the little they have.

As was said above though, the Empire has not been relevant for a long while now so this move has been a long time coming to even just be talked about doing.

No Joey
because as many public people that help a charity
with Hard Work get MBE's


Thats good
and does not effect You.
You Student of the Future

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Leave the poor woman alone, she'll be dead soon.


She may go another 10 years
beyond drug takers
And other Royals take over, anyway.

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