[alex_front2]

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/posts/view/256465

looks as MrPatronising Porn star isnt as reasonable or mature as we thought.

[armand.kay]

This paper is pathetic...

[fruit_cake]

I don't see what's bad about that he was just having a joke imo

[Zincubus]

Originally Posted by alex_front2

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/posts/view/256465

looks as MrPatronising Porn star isnt as reasonable or mature as we thought.

As a porn star he's presumably seen and done things us mere mortals will never experience ( thankfully) , he should be very open minded ...

[Jords]

[smeagol]

thats the problem with having luke in there. the sympathy vote and walking on egg shells.
He is prime foder for a joke. if its not nasty i see no problem.

[MrWong]

So the joke wasn't aimed at Luke and Luke wasn't even there when it happened?

A complete none story from the grubby little tabloid then.

Figures

[BBUKAUSFAN]

love how Victoria is trying to get her name out there poor old lady should go back to her dogs and lock her self away! only making a bigger fool of her self

[newsbb]

i think this is pure BS.

[HBB1508]

Meh total non event trying to stir up interest - I can't see Luke A taking any offence at that - blimey Freddie Starr did it on camera in come dine with me - so what?????

[fruit_cake]

it reminds me of the scene in Silence of the Lambs so I'm not sure Benedict is doing himself any favours but if anything it's the Daily Star who is transphobic trying to stir up trouble for Luke A when there is none.

[lostalex]

I don't see how it's transphobic as he wasn't directing his actions at luke or transexuals in general. If he had been saying how disgusting it was or something like that then it would be transphobic, but it doesn't sound like that's what he was doing.

What is transphobic is the people here some how turning this against Luke A and saying Luke A is some how causing problems by being a transgendered person.

[Livia]

The Daily Star really is a rag... the "joke" wasn't aimed at Luke - he wasn't even there, didn't see it and presumably his name was not mentioned. Pathetic... Most balanced people wouldn't give his sexuality a second thought once they'd got over the initial knowledge.

[*mazedsalv**]

How pathetic... it wasn't about Luke

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by MrWong

So the joke wasn't aimed at Luke and Luke wasn't even there when it happened?

A complete none story from the grubby little tabloid then.

Figures

This tbh.

[Lister of Smeg]

oh dear the pc brigade will be out in force pretending to be outraged .

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Livia

The Daily Star really is a rag... the "joke" wasn't aimed at Luke - he wasn't even there, didn't see it and presumably his name was not mentioned. Pathetic... Most balanced people wouldn't give his sexuality a second thought once they'd got over the initial knowledge.

Transgender has nothing to do with sexuality. There are str8 transgenders and gay transgenders, as far as i know Luka A. is str8 right?

[spitfire]

He should be given an infraction.

[Vicky.]

Good god what a load of bollocks

Luke wasnt even there, I (unfortunately) know quite a few lads who think doing that kind of thing is funny and do it to get a laugh out of other simple minds folk...its not that uncommon

It could be viewed as a dig if he was prancing round with his shlong between his legs shouting 'look I'm luke' or something, but from this (non) story it doesnt seem that way at all

[Jake.]

Can this 'news paper' sink any lower? Probably not, its already at rock bottom. Pathetic excuse for a tabloid.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by lostalex

Transgender has nothing to do with sexuality. There are str8 transgenders and gay transgenders, as far as i know Luka A. is str8 right?

Yeah, my mistake. It's a bit of a minefield. You know what I mean though, I hope.

[aj2463]

Well clearly it wasn't anything to do with Luke A
Way to start something over nothing eh?

[cfromhx02]

BS to all those who say there was nothing to it. Just bigots not wanting to admit to their prejudice.

Happens a lot in this country.

Bigotry of all forms is a lot worse in this country than most would admit too.

And usually the ones who criticize PC values ((which are usually just about treating people with decency and manners)

(traits so lacking in most many who don't know the meaning of manners and would look dumb founded at you if you talk about thinking of another's feelings)

are usually only attacking PC values to justify their right to continue to be rude and offensive to others.

Whether Benedict meant it as aimed at Luke A or not,
which he may not have,
it was still obvious to anyone who has a working brain,
obviously a joke about TS people in general,
which is not just a joke , but which shows prejudice
and bigotry behind it.

The fact that the bigotry of most others is based on ignorance does not help TS people.

Because most of these ignorant when you try to explain that TS people are forced into changing
and explain about the studies done on the more predominantly male
or female parts of the brain,
they don't want to listen,
and most prefer to continue to see as us freaks and either just use us as an object of humour
(the bigotry behind it can lead to attacks later or by others if unchecked) and of course some attack us when they get the chance.

Many trans have been attacked (usually late at night when the bigots true feelings come out cos of drink) and murdered in this country.

The fact is nearly every time TS s are on a documentary or a chat programme they are always used as something to laugh at.And for some that attitude goes further into attacking or murdering us, which is more likely after they've had a drink though some people would attack even murder sober.


That is bigotry pure and simple.Bigots should be exposed and educated not ignored or have excuses made for them.

It is important because TS people get attacked and murdered sometimes (that's where bigotry/ignorance in the form of just jokes can lead to if they go unchecked and people say oh but it was just a joke
when they don't care for another human beings feelings (yes that's correct TS s are people too they have feelings and aren't something just to be called freaks or laughed at
by the ignorant or nasty human beings just for their fun))
as generally by most they are treated as freaks and most just see them as something to joke about.

It is based on ignorance, but that helps none,
TS s are sick of hearing "it's a choice" or "it's about sex"
from the idiots who attack us and think it's ok to abuse.
Idiots "it is not i repeat not a choice"
and it is not sexual.
Many studies have shown that male to female or female to male trans gender people
have the brain of the other gender so they are forced to change
to have any chance at happiness.

Whether Benedict meant it aimed at Luke A or not.
And it's more likely he did rather than did not.
It was still either just a stupid thing to do or more likely it was an anti trans joke in general
which most of these guys who tuck their willy between their legs pissed on sat night as one poster said
mean as an anti-trans /transphobobic joke too.
Bigotry is more likely to come out (it's harder to keep secret)
when someone is not able
to control their behavior because of drink.

No excuses can be made for bigotry.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by cfromhx02

BS to all those who say there was nothing to it. Just bigots not wanting to admit to their prejudice.

Happens a lot in this country.

Bigotry of all forms is a lot worse in this country than most would admit too.

And usually the ones who criticize PC values ((which are usually just about treating people with decency and manners)

(traits so lacking in most many who don't know the meaning of manners and would look dumb founded at you if you talk about thinking of another's feelings)

are usually only attacking PC values to justify their right to continue to be rude and offensive to others.

Whether Benedict meant it as aimed at Luke A or not,
which he may not have,
it was still obvious to anyone who has a working brain,
obviously a joke about TS people in general,
which is not just a joke , but which shows prejudice
and bigotry behind it.

The fact that the bigotry of most others is based on ignorance does not help TS people.

Because most of these ignorant when you try to explain that TS people are forced into changing
and explain about the studies done on the more predominantly male
or female parts of the brain,
they don't want to listen,
and most prefer to continue to see as us freaks and either just use us as an object of humour
(the bigotry behind it can lead to attacks later or by others if unchecked) and of course some attack us when they get the chance.

Many trans have been attacked (usually late at night when the bigots true feelings come out cos of drink) and murdered in this country.

The fact is nearly every time TS s are on a documentary or a chat programme they are always used as something to laugh at.And for some that attitude goes further into attacking or murdering us, which is more likely after they've had a drink though some people would attack even murder sober.


That is bigotry pure and simple.Bigots should be exposed and educated not ignored or have excuses made for them.

It is important because TS people get attacked and murdered sometimes (that's where bigotry/ignorance in the form of just jokes can lead to if they go unchecked and people say oh but it was just a joke
when they don't care for another human beings feelings (yes that's correct TS s are people too they have feelings and aren't something just to be called freaks or laughed at
by the ignorant or nasty human beings just for their fun))
as generally by most they are treated as freaks and most just see them as something to joke about.

It is based on ignorance, but that helps none,
TS s are sick of hearing "it's a choice" or "it's about sex"
from the idiots who attack us and think it's ok to abuse.
Idiots "it is not i repeat not a choice"
and it is not sexual.
Many studies have shown that male to female or female to male trans gender people
have the brain of the other gender so they are forced to change
to have any chance at happiness.

Whether Benedict meant it aimed at Luke A or not.
And it's more likely he did rather than did not.
It was still either just a stupid thing to do or more likely it was an anti trans joke in general
which most of these guys who tuck their willy between their legs pissed on sat night as one poster said
mean as an anti-trans /transphobobic joke too.
Bigotry is more likely to come out (it's harder to keep secret)
when someone is not able
to control their behavior because of drink.

No excuses can be made for bigotry.

Most people on here are extremely thoughtful and tolerant of all kinds of people. You would have made a far more positive impact if you'd signed on, introduced yourself and explained... but you start off by calling people names.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Livia

Most people on here are extremely thoughtful and tolerant of all kinds of people. You would have made a far more positive impact if you'd signed on, introduced yourself and explained... but you start off by calling people names.

It was just a joke. I doubt Benedict meant to be offensive to anyone.