[Mike]

Who do you think it is? Which HM has a big influence over others in the house?

[Niamh.]

hhhmmm, Caroline maybe, in a sneaky way

[Kizzy]

Any blue except luke, lauren or sara...

[Black Dagger]

I'd have said Caroline, but she seems to be crumbling, she's lost an ally in Arron, she'll lose another on Friday in either Conor or Shievonne.

[Beastie]

Adam is influential with the outsiders. Shievonne is influential with the insiders I reckon.

[alex_front2]

Caroline.

She starts to set up her next nom victim a week before the next nom and plants seeds. She latches on to a victim when she hears someone slag them off eg Ashleigh slates Lauren so Caroline knows if she can get one more person anti-Lauren that's at least 3 noms.

When she is caught out she either giggles eg when Benedict called her out after she was discussing nominating best pal Becky or she plays victim when Adam confronts her.

She has loads of allies ie Scot, Becky, Conor, Luke S, Ashleigh, and Siobhan.

Sara is wising up to her

Luke A, Adam and Lauren have wised up to her sneaky ways.

I don't get her relationship with Deana. One minute Caroline will defend her to Conor the next she is slating her to Luke S. Odd.

[Josy]

Caroline

[Kate!]

Caroline without a doubt. Possibly the sneakiest housemate ever.

[rinkydinkpanther]

caroline has the most attention but her power is short lived, the person who will soon have the most power is lauren , maybe scott and adam too, because as luke a said prophetically, we wont have to do anything all these people will just self-destruct (connor, arron, caroline, shiv,chris, all self destructed in a totally brainless fashion) deana is dangerous but whilst she has good sense of survival, she doesnt seem bright enough or dynamic enough to take control

[KingOfTheMods]

Caroline at the moment but all her sneakiness, conniving and bitching is starting to catch up with her. People are starting to wise up to her and pretty soon the game will be up and I for one can't wait to see her get her comeuppance. It will be sweet.

[alex_front2]

Although his influence is weaker than Caroline Luke S gives off an influential vibe too.

He sets him self up as trusted leader, the strong mature wise one. Siobhan, Caroline and obviously Ashleigh will go to him for cuddles and bloke cuddle when they are down.

In the Arron-Conor-Luke S he was the 'remote' leader. Arron-Conor were closer, but Luke S quietly called the shots whilst kissing Ash. His grip is losening as Arron's gone and Conor Siobhan and Caroline are now vulnerable.

The only people not in his controlling grip are:

• Luke A and Deana - obviously
• Adam
• Lauren
• Sara

He's working really hard whilst in greens to 'bond' with Becky and Scot and come across as Funtime Freddie

[rinkydinkpanther]

Originally Posted by alex_front2

Although his influence is weaker than Caroline Luke S gives off an influential vibe too.

He sets him self up as trusted leader, the strong mature wise one. Siobhan, Caroline and obviously Ashleigh will go to him for cuddles and bloke cuddle when they are down.

In the Arron-Conor-Luke S he was the 'remote' leader. Arron-Conor were closer, but Luke S quietly called the shots whilst kissing Ash. His grip is losening as Arron's gone and Conor Siobhan and Caroline are now vulnerable.

The only people not in his controlling grip are:

• Luke A and Deana - obviously
• Adam
• Lauren
• Sara

He's working really hard whilst in greens to 'bond' with Becky and Scot and come across as Funtime Freddie

luke s turned on arron when arron was at his weakest, that was pretty sly.
he may have thought ill let go of this dead wood and make myself look good too
hes playing a cunning game, but too cunning , too controlled and not natural enough to make the final...UNLESS OF COURSE HE DROPS HER OFF? HE DOESNT SEEM RADICAL ENOUGH TO SEE THE LIGHT

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by rinkydinkpanther

luke s turned on arron when arron was at his weakest, that was pretty sly.
he may have thought ill let go of this dead wood and make myself look good too
hes playing a cunning game, but too cunning , too controlled and not natural enough to make the final...UNLESS OF COURSE HE DROPS HER OFF? HE DOESNT SEEM RADICAL ENOUGH TO SEE THE LIGHT

he has no way of knowing that Ashleigh and his relationship with her isn't popular on the outside though.

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

Originally Posted by alex_front2

Although his influence is weaker than Caroline Luke S gives off an influential vibe too.

He sets him self up as trusted leader, the strong mature wise one. Siobhan, Caroline and obviously Ashleigh will go to him for cuddles and bloke cuddle when they are down.

In the Arron-Conor-Luke S he was the 'remote' leader. Arron-Conor were closer, but Luke S quietly called the shots whilst kissing Ash. His grip is losening as Arron's gone and Conor Siobhan and Caroline are now vulnerable.

The only people not in his controlling grip are:

• Luke A and Deana - obviously
• Adam
• Lauren
• Sara

He's working really hard whilst in greens to 'bond' with Becky and Scot and come across as Funtime Freddie

Absolutely agree, I also get a Jay vibe from him (I dont mean cause of his muscles) I feel he could turn out really nasty, cause a lot of trouble in the house, If he doesn't get his own way with things.