[arista]

The 14min Film is still on YouTube.






Pakistani Rangers cordon off the area near the US embassy in Islamabad.

"Pakistani officials say 15 people
have been killed in protests against
an anti-Islam film - including a dozen in Karachi.
A police officer and a driver working
for television are among the dead."



Maybe they need to remove the YouTube Film now?


http://news.sky.com/story/987983/ant...ed-in-pakistan

[King Gizzard]

If the extremists didn't do what they did at the embassy, the film would have never gone viral. Shot themselves in the foot and made it worse..the protests are making it more famous than it is on it's own

[flamingGalah!]

I don't think the film should be removed, we don't like many things that they do in Islamic countries or agree with parts of their beliefs & they don't care about that... Whatever happened to freedom of speech?

They are the ones who need to calm the ******* down & stop over reacting about a pretend god

[arista]

Maybe
but America (The President) is now saying that Attack in Libya
was planned before the YouTube Film.

There are many Muslim nations that put the Film
into Context of Anger in such a way
that other American buildings in those places
will be attacked

[MTVN]

I think the outrage against the film is now more about giving a means to express a wider anti-Western sentiment tbh

[mrlecturer]

my friends there are telling me all cellular network services have been shut since the protests started. this is just ridiculous; political leaders are merely manipulating this story to push forth their own agenda whilst taking control over the uneducated and ignorant populous. These people protesting don't even represent .1% of the country's population - fyi.

[arista]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I think the outrage against the film is now more about giving a means to express a wider anti-Western sentiment tbh

Of course.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by flamingGalah!

I don't think the film should be removed, we don't like many things that they do in Islamic countries or agree with parts of their beliefs & they don't care about that... Whatever happened to freedom of speech?

They are the ones who need to calm the ******* down & stop over reacting about a pretend god

I'm in agreeance with this.

The select 'nutters' and all their tagalongs need to calm their jets.... time they were lifted and flung in jail for a year or so: perhaps they'd appreciate their freedom - and what freedom means - after a spell there.

They seem to forget - very conveniently - that there are things that Islamic countries and followers of Islam (depending on how extreme they are) do that deeply offend Western cultures and countries: yet you don't see the Westerners going mental right left and centre at the drop of a hat, violently protesting at every turn, killing and maiming people who have not a thing to do with it all - all they are doing is damaging themeselves and the supposed value and beliefs that they purport to uphold.

[arista]

Originally Posted by flamingGalah!

I don't think the film should be removed, we don't like many things that they do in Islamic countries or agree with parts of their beliefs & they don't care about that... Whatever happened to freedom of speech?

They are the ones who need to calm the ******* down & stop over reacting about a pretend god

I watched the 14mins youtube film
and at one point they claim he is Gay.
Some Muslims feel Gays should be hanged etc.

So that Mini Film is not Satire
it is to Start Wars over.

Its not good Enough for the President and the Clinton woman
saying its nothing to do with them
as although thats true the Muslims know
The prsident cam remove that YouTube mini film



So remove it - Is best.

[InOne]

It's all very ridiculous.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

I'm in agreeance with this. The select 'nutters' and all their tagalongs need to calm their jets.... time they were lifted and flung in jail for a year or so: perhaps they'd appreciate their freedom - and what freedom means - after a spell there. They seem to forget - very conveniently - that there are things that Islamic countries and followers of Islam (depending on how extreme they are) do that deeply offend Western cultures and countries: yet you don't see the Westerners going mental right left and centre at the drop of a hat, violently protesting at every turn, killing and maiming people who have not a thing to do with it all - all they are doing is damaging themeselves and the supposed value and beliefs that they purport to uphold.

No today a TV worker was killed
Remove the Video from YouTube is best.

[arista]

Originally Posted by InOne

It's all very ridiculous.

Yes from a Western Point of View.


But that TV worker should not have been killed.



InOne
can you look at the Bigger Picture
like a WW3 starting up

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by arista

I watched the 14mins youtube film
and at one point they claim he is Gay.
Some Muslims feel Gays should be hanged etc.

So that Mini Film is not Satire
it is to Start Wars over.

Its not good Enough for the President and the Clinton woman
saying its nothing to do with them
as although thats true the Muslims know
The prsident cam remove that YouTube mini film



So remove it - Is best.

totally disagree that it should be removed - doing so is giving in to the extremists - they want to hijack freedom and rights for same, they want to forbid the right to freedom but only on their own terms.... but it's fine in their eyes for for them to want gays - ie; people who are living and breathing today - to be hung etc: but not okay for someone to say something about a person who is nothing more than a fictional character.

It's that's not madness: then I don't know what is.

Give into this and we may as well just give up altogether. It's time they DEALT with these nutters - : they seem to be increasing in number - and I do believe it's because they ARE getting away with these things and are being pandered to.

"Oh, dont do this, it might offend, dont do that, they might get upset". To hell with that: they need to learn that the world is a small place and it doesn't belong to them alone - if they can't hack someone having a difference of opinion - that's their problem.

When they make it someone elses problem and they do in the most horrific of ways - then it's time to show them what freedom means: they'll realise soon enough when they're fired in to some piss ridden hell hole in 40degree heat in the back of beyond, scrapping for food, living amongst cockroaches, poor sanitation, lack of any facilities and having to watch their back every minute of the day through fear of being sodomised, stabbed or beaten.

The sickening part is: it is causing tremendous damage to the millions of decent followers of Islam - and those who tar any Muslim with the same brush - that's the fall out - and they have not the brains to realise that.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes from a Western Point of View.


But that TV worker should not have been killed.



InOne
can you look at the Bigger Picture
like a WW3 starting up

Well everyone keeps saying that but nothing 'big' has happened. Muslims all over the world getting their knickers in a twist is nothing new.

[arista]

Originally Posted by InOne

Well everyone keeps saying that but nothing 'big' has happened. Muslims all over the world getting their knickers in a twist is nothing new.

There is a bit in the film when they say he is gay.
Strict Muslims do not want Gay.


Its a Insult that creates murder.

[Marcus.]

it is now getting out of hand and what about the people dying

[arista]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

totally disagree that it should be removed - doing so is giving in to the extremists - they want to hijack freedom and rights for same, they want to forbid the right to freedom but only on their own terms.... but it's fine in their eyes for for them to want gays - ie; people who are living and breathing today - to be hung etc: but not okay for someone to say something about a person who is nothing more than a fictional character. It's that's not madness: then I don't know what is. Give into this and we may as well just give up altogether. It's time they DEALT with these nutters - : they seem to be increasing in number - and I do believe it's because they ARE getting away with these things and are being pandered to. "Oh, dont do this, it might offend, dont do that, they might get upset". To hell with that: they need to learn that the world is a small place and it doesn't belong to them alone - if they can't hack someone having a difference of opinion - that's their problem. When they make it someone elses problem and they do in the most horrific of ways - then it's time to show them what freedom means: they'll realise soon enough when they're fired in to some piss ridden hell hole in 40degree heat in the back of beyond, scrapping for food, living amongst cockroaches, poor sanitation, lack of any facilities and having to watch their back every minute of the day through fear of being sodomised, stabbed or beaten. The sickening part is: it is causing tremendous damage to the millions of decent followers of Islam - and those who tar any Muslim with the same brush - that's the fall out - and they have not the brains to realise that.

Yes but it means we can still Joke
but not about muslims.



Some Nations
many have never seen the Film
so their Leaders tell them etc.
Of course they twist it.



Its not worth the trouble.

[arista]

Originally Posted by bigbrother12

it is now getting out of hand and what about the people dying

Yes
that TV worker was just doing his job driving the Sat truck.
They killed him even though he was one of them.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by arista

There is a bit in the film when they say he is gay.
Strict Muslims do not want Gay.


Its a Insult that creates murder.

The insult does not create murder...... it needs the headcase fanatical extremists who will cause a riot over a dropped jelly bean if and when it suits them, to create the murders - funny that.... the westerners cannot have a distasteful opinion on a fictional character in a book: but murdering innocents - that appears to be okay in the extremists very warped minds.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes
that TV worker was just doing his job driving the Sat truck.
They killed him even though he was one of them.

All the more reason to round up these deranged and dangerous nutters, bang them up and leave them to rot.

[GypsyGoth]

Doesn't the likes of Pakistan get loads of money as aid from the west?

Maybe there should be conditions to that money.

[fruit_cake]

not a woman in sight in the second of Arista's photo's there

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

Doesn't the likes of Pakistan get loads of money as aid from the west?

Maybe there should be conditions to that money.

Good point GG: perhaps it's time that the respective Governments of countries who don't take real action actions these sorts, are given an incentive to do so: if they don't - funding is not made available.

Problem is: most of these type of Governments are as corrupt as hell and often have little power as far as real policing/action is concerned - lots involved re drugs in Pakistan and that's a hell of a pressure I'd imagine. It's a nightmare.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

not a woman in sight in the second of Arista's photo's there

they're all still in Bahrain protesting over there from last week.....

True though: very few women in the 2nd picture.

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

they're all still in Bahrain protesting over there from last week.....

True though: very few women in the 2nd picture.

I find it hard to take any group seriously that does not accurately represent it's population. 99.9% men and 0.01% women clearly does not represent the population. It's no wonder they appear to be barking mad imo