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Old 17-07-2013, 03:08 AM #201
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It did sound scripted , but hes been out of his depth from day 1
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he has at least apologised, what about hazels apology?
She did apologise. Unlike Daley she didn't blame anyone or anything else.

She also didn't use the word "if" which renders an actual apology void.
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To be fair Im a bit bored of it all now, roll on with the show!
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She did apologise. Unlike Daley she didn't blame anyone or anything else.
she did change her story umpteen times today but I do think in fairness she came across marginally better today than daley
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When did she change her story?
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Not joking at all. Enlighten me... But don't feed me fabricated tosh you've been spewing for the last few pages.

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Not joking at all. Enlighten me... But don't feed me fabricated tosh you've been spewing for the last few pages.
from a liar like you that's rich Ive answered this upteen times, she changed her story almost every time she discussed the issue....one minute its harmless play fighting, then its deadly serious and shes scared, then she tells the housemates in the bedroom its nothing much and daley doesn't deserve any hassle over it, she gives an edited version to dan and says to the group she hasn't got a clue why hes gone.....everyone on BBots said the same.....where the heck have you been?
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Play fighting turned serious, taking her by surprise and scaring her.

She didn't think Daley intended to scare her and hoped he was ok.

She was evasive with housemates other than Dan because it's not something to relish gossiping with everyone about.

I fail to see any change in her stance. Her account to Dan was pretty accurate too, she pointed out the things she did herself beforehand.

Dan said what he did to the group because she didn't want to have the whole house buzzing about it and be pestered with questions, as she said on the diary room.

No doubt she'd have been lambasted had she opened up to everyone.

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So Daley is more or less saying that Hazel was asking for it? And shame on Emma for agreeing. No matter what Hazel has done (and I'm no fan of hers) no woman deserves to be grabbed round the throat, pinned to the bed and threatened with violence. And now he's full of BS about how "the house" made him cheat on his Gf.
He's a disgrace and they shouldn't give such a misogynistic bully air time.
He hardly implied that Hazel was asking for it, if anything he refused the golden chance to slag her off.
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So Daley is more or less saying that Hazel was asking for it? And shame on Emma for agreeing. No matter what Hazel has done (and I'm no fan of hers) no woman deserves to be grabbed round the throat, pinned to the bed and threatened with violence. And now he's full of BS about how "the house" made him cheat on his Gf.
He's a disgrace and they shouldn't give such a misogynistic bully air time.
100% agree with you, I was disgusted what he was saying, I think deep down I don't think was taking any of the responsibility of what he had done, blaming the house & such like.
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They both had a big part to play in it,She wound up the wrong guy and it bit her on the bum,But he went too far with how he handled it.I think justice was done and BB made the right decision in the end.
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I would urge people who are disgusted by the whole thing to complain to Channel 5 on customerservices@channel5.com
I have just sent them this email:

Dear Sir/Madam,
I wish to complain about the interview with Daley Ojuederie conducted by Emma Willis on tonight's show (broadcast 16/07/13), in relation to Mr Ojuederie's aggressive and abusive attack on fellow housemate Hazel O'Sullivan and subsequent removal from the house.
Throughout the interview Ms Willis repeatedly offered platitudes to Mr Ojuederie, suggesting that he was not entirely to blame for the assault and that Ms O'Sullivan was also to blame. Ms Willis repeatedly said "It takes two to tango" suggesting equal blame on the part of Ms O'Sullivan and later said to Mr Ojuederie "There is no way you are entirely to blame for this". She also asked Mr Ojuederie his opinion on Ms O'Sullivan, suggesting that Ms O'Sullivan had in some way treated him badly.
I found the whole interview distasteful. This man, a trained boxer, put his hands around Ms O'Sullivan's throat, before pushing her down and pinning her to the bed by her arms and then threatened to "finish her" and to "nut her one". To offer the merest hint that Ms O'Sullivan was in any way to blame for any aspect of this attack is disgraceful and I am shocked and appalled at Channel 5 and Miss Willis for not only allowing a violent abuser a platform to make his excuses from, but to be complicit in those excuses.
I would suggest that Ms Willis and Channel 5 are out of touch with the realities of violent crime against women and of their viewers feelings on such matters. Indeed, many viewers in the online forum community are calling for Ms Willis' dismissal. At the very least, an apology should be made by Ms Willis for her behaviour during this interview and by Channel 5 for not only giving Mr Ojuederie a platform from which to place blame elsewhere, but for allowing the interview to be conducted in such a disgraceful manner.

Yours sincerely,

I complained to Ofcom about drama queens like you cluttering up my internets, but they ignored me.

Jesus Christ. The 'disgusted, from Chichester' Daily Mail brigade that this show brings out of the woodwork are the most annoying part of it.

She's married, by the way. It's Mrs Willis.

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lots of hate on the net for emma now. and rightly so she was shocking . also lots of idiots loving daley but what can you do. some people in life just arn't very bright or understand life until it bites them on the ass lol
Or grabs them by the throat then head buts them.
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I was surprised at how overtly gentle Emma was with Daley,(it is also very clear she has a personal dislike of Hazel), I can't say 100% I know how these things work but I assume she was working to a brief from the producers? Though obviously the clear blame for the violent behavior has to be laid at Daley's door, C5's contribution to how events unfolded cannot be overlooked. They were aware of Daley's backstory and emotional demons when he entered the house, they encouraged the relationship by putting them up as a couple (what a slap in the face that was for Katie), they opened the lines for a very short period of time and only on a mobile number. They seem to have given the safe house occupants alot of alcohol, they should have called Daley to the DR when he started counting down in bed, as it was clear he was getting wound up, did Judy James fall asleep on the job or what? or is she too interested in promoting herself on TV to be bothered with the welfare of the HMs, I think C5 are on tricky ground here and perhaps that is why the interview was so sanatised, just a thought.
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Emma gave Hazel's friend who was invited to plead her case to be saved, a worse grilling than she did Daley.

Funny that.
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If you are going to complain , it should be about the fact channel 5 orchestrated a situation for the purpose of increased viewing figures that they should have known had the potential to get out of hand.Daley was clearly an emotionally vulnerable guy with issues, he was I am guessing chosen to go on the show because he was a sparing partner for Hazels ex who committed suicide, that connection and potential liaison between them both seems to have out weighed his clear unsuitability for the show.

Channel 5 watch him struggle with Hazels advances and clearly a more experienced world widely , emotionally stable man would have been able to deal with her in a succinct forthright way. They then though elect to put Hazel and Daley together , alone, in the safe house and fuel the whole situation with free flowing alcohol. No wonder Emma was placating Daley , Channel 5 firstly should never had allowed him on the show and secondly put such an emotionally vulnerable person who was already struggling in such a crazy situation.
I don't agree with what Daley did , I do think he had no idea how to handle Hazel though , they should never ever have been put together in the safe house and that would be my complaint to channel 5.
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In the lead up to the incident Hazel was at her coquettish and flirty worst. She would not back off when it was obvious Daley wanted to sleep. She was actually quite physically aggressive to him. It was embarrassing to watch. It seemed to me that the moment they went in the safe house, she was in 'get maximum publicity mode' and this required Daley to fall head over heels in love with her and passionate love-making etc etc. When Daley just wanted to sleep, she couldn't back off.
No, he shouldn't have done what he did, but he was provoked. And yes, I have watched the incident twice and took a note of every move and word. Hazel is manipulative in the extreme and I hope Dan is watching his back as she will try yet again to 'convert' him.
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Reading some of these posts I can't believe what some people are saying - sack Emma Willis?! What an earth for??

So some of you found the interview distasteful and whatnot? How is that even her fault? It wouldn't have been her that agreed to have him on there in the first place and it's also highly likely that she was briefed on what to say and ask.

As someone said above, it's not exactly news that she said: "it takes two to tango". She's only been saying it for the last ten days. In fact before all this happened, everyone was blaming it on Hazel and she in fact said something along the lines of - it does take two to tango guys, so Daley isn't blameless.

I find it slightly amusing at how so many people have taken offence to the interview itself. It was slightly controversial - yes. But I thought people like controversy? The Great British public is so fickle that half the time they don't even know what they want. There wasn't even that much content in the interview, it was mainly just Daley apologising for his actions.

Emma, I thought conducted the interview rather well. She was in a difficult situation (which her bosses put her in) and as a presenter you have to remain unbiased when conducting interviews of any nature. Let alone when they regard such a sensitive topic. As anyone that has a job knows - if your boss tells you to do something you do it. So if anyone should be fired then it should be the producers or whoever it was that have the final go ahead. I personally don't think anyone should be.

I seriously laughed at that complaint letter though. You really think that before going ahead with it that they wasn't prepared for some infantile backlash and a few complaints letters?! As someone said above it'll probably be the start of BB15 before they read it.
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He didn't say that at all,he said he would let people make their own minds up regarding hazel,why do people fabricate?
EXACTLY!!! I couldn't believe what I was reading about him putting the blame on Hazel, although after reading many of the biased threads on here claiming that Hazel had no part in the incident, I shouldn't really be surprised.
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Reading some of these posts I can't believe what some people are saying - sack Emma Willis?! What an earth for??

So some of you found the interview distasteful and whatnot? How is that even her fault? It wouldn't have been her that agreed to have him on there in the first place and it's also highly likely that she was briefed on what to say and ask.

As someone said above, it's not exactly news that she said: "it takes two to tango". She's only been saying it for the last ten days. In fact before all this happened, everyone was blaming it on Hazel and she in fact said something along the lines of - it does take two to tango guys, so Daley isn't blameless.

I find it slightly amusing at how so many people have taken offence to the interview itself. It was slightly controversial - yes. But I thought people like controversy? The Great British public is so fickle that half the time they don't even know what they want. There wasn't even that much content in the interview, it was mainly just Daley apologising for his actions.

Emma, I thought conducted the interview rather well. She was in a difficult situation (which her bosses put her in) and as a presenter you have to remain unbiased when conducting interviews of any nature. Let alone when they regard such a sensitive topic. As anyone that has a job knows - if your boss tells you to do something you do it. So if anyone should be fired then it should be the producers or whoever it was that have the final go ahead. I personally don't think anyone should be.

I seriously laughed at that complaint letter though. You really think that before going ahead with it that they wasn't prepared for some infantile backlash and a few complaints letters?! As someone said above it'll probably be the start of BB15 before they read it.
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Funny that.
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I think they had to give him an interview as they always say that they have to give a person the right to reply.They interviewed Katie and will ask Hazel about it when she goes,They had no option but to give him his say.
Didn't he say ,BB asked him to do it, as he didn't want to as he would be nervous?
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