[Livia]

Not everyone wants the arseholes to prosper. Some people wouldn't mind if a relatively normal person does well.

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by Livia

Not everyone wants the arseholes to prosper. Some people wouldn't mind if a relatively normal person does well.

Friggin hell, never thought I would agree with something you said. There should be a like button on this forum.

[Niamh.]

I love this Twist because A - The two dullest HMs got picked for it (shame about Dan though) and B - Hazel lives to fight another week hahahahaha

[Gillian-73]

Originally Posted by Simple Minds

Ah, I saw you on another thread and I thought it was you that kept taking exception to Negative Dan press.

Please accept my apologies, I retract the comment.

[Im_Juz_ChiLLin]

Im not unhappy im voting away to evict Dan...

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Gillian-73

It was a question is all. I am allowed to ask a question. Is that not the point of a forum?

Not if it concerns Dan and more to the point if you like him it seems Gillian-73.

Anyway,I hated this twist from the start, I think it totally wrong to have put Sam and Sophie or indeed anyone in this position,secrets and lies or not.
There should be limit to what they are expected to do unknowingly that involves others.

The housemates likely wouldn't want these 3 up for sure and in fact did not do so anyway.
The public would have in their poll,even after the twist was fully known, had that been used voted that Dexter,(again,that is every week now in fact from the public), Callum and Hazel would have been up.

So this eviction is likely not what the housemates want for any of them and wouldn't be the public's ideal choices either.
This is a BB 'engineered' nominations and eviction which likely hasn't gone the way they wanted but is still wrong in my opinion totally.
Vote to evict has also made this an even worse twist.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Im_Juz_ChiLLin

Im not unhappy im voting away to evict Dan...

Well,there's a surprise.

[aman201]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

I actually cannot believe people are moaning about this twist.

Many a time weve been eft with the deadwood at the end of the series much to peoples annoyance.

We have the perfect opportunity to evict one of the bores and in the best way possible.

Why the hell would you want them to have prior warning to the main event. This has the potential to be the best surprise eviction since Kat in BB9 and people are still not happy.

Finally BB are doing it right.

And if Dan goes then all the better. A boring, self entitled, egotistical series ruiner IMHO

Bang on.

[Bluerang1]

They really didn't know would go into the safe house anyway so it's not a fix.

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by Bluerang1

They really didn't know would go into the safe house anyway so it's not a fix.

It's a fix because they knew who the house would pick. In fact I would rest short of calling it a fix I would call it Influencing certain housemates towards eviction because the producers would be fairly certain who would be put into that house and on the small chance that they weren't it's just a nice little twist to change things up.

They can't lose either way.

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by Simple Minds

Just seems fixed to me, like BB deliberately wanted one of the 'quieter' ones out. Now that Dan is in the safe house it might not work out that way but had they picked a more popular house mate Sophie or Sam would have walked.

YEAH, JUST LIKE CH4, BB HAVE SHOT THEMSELVES IN THE FOOT HERE

We will lose Dan whereas if noms had gone ahead, or they just put them all up, The Dirt would have gone (even though it should have gone 2 weeks ago)

BB will probably send in another male HM now, cause The Dirt doesnt have anyone to sexually harass any more

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by Simple Minds

It's a fix because they knew who the house would pick. In fact I would rest short of calling it a fix I would call it Influencing certain housemates towards eviction because the producers would be fairly certain who would be put into that house and on the small chance that they weren't it's just a nice little twist to change things up.

They can't lose either way.

They knew it woudlnt be anyone who had already been in the SH so they knew The Dirt wouldnt be put in there

It was a twist done for one purpose

To save THE DIRT

Now they will prob send in another bloke for The Dirt to sexually harass cause she has no story right now

Just stick The Dirt on the porn channel and lets get on with the show

"when Im terrified of someone, I get into bed with them and spoon all night long"

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by Im_Juz_ChiLLin

Im not unhappy im voting away to evict Dan...

Well you would, cause he's not buying what your little weasel is selling

"I let the girls chase me"

Maybe he's talking about female hunters, and they are looking to shoot small animals and he just got in the way...............no other explanation lollololololololol
lolololololololololololololololololololololol

[Kyle]

Miranda I feel like you may have some irrational hatred towards Dexter. Does he really annoy you that much?

[LikeABoatOnWater]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

Why the hell would you want them to have prior warning to the main event. This has the potential to be the best surprise eviction since Kat in BB9 and people are still not happy.

The BB9 housemates speculated every single second of the final week up until the surprise eviction, about there being a mid week eviction. This is completely different.

[cfromhx02]

I'm not moaning.It's quite a good twist, although maybe some are unhappy with it, that apart from being deadwood as you call them, it's good people that have been shaft*d by it, those that don't like it, probably think like me, that if Gina or Dexter etc had been chosen to go in safe house BB wouldn't have changed it so that they were up for eviction.

There is a sense of BB always helping the nasty ones here just like how they helped Caroline's gang last year and took away the ability for Lauren's gang to form allegiances to protect themselves

and many of us are pretty sure if nasty 2 faced people were picked to go back in the house BB would have let them stay as protected from eviction and not put them up for eviction.Everyone including BB could have prevented this plotting 2 faced fakes against deadwood situation by keeping in the loud outspoken ones who had character,were not deadwood and would have been more pleasant to watch

and braver to watch as they would have been outspoken for good reasons and would have had the courage to be straight about what they said to people's faces.

[Scotty07]

Really wanted Jack & Joe to be chosen, but still think it's a great twist. Most excited for Friday since fake eviction night.

[CaudleHalbard]

The only people really annoyed about the twist are Dan fans.

Supporters of the other HMs are, by and large, happy or neutral about the twist.

[Nedusa]

I remember when you could only be put up for eviction by being one of the 3 HM or more with the highest Nominations, then BB started twisting the Nominations procedure with face to face Noms which did not reflect truly the HM that were going to be put up. then BB introduced save and replace which allowed a Nom HM to save him/herself at the expense of any other HM popular/Big character or not.

Now BB is changing the rules again to effectively lie to HM by rewarding them with safe house and Nom immunity only to secretly put them up for eviction again without any Nom procedure.

Is this Big Brother ?? really.....? with no real rules, a sort of anything goes mentality where the producers can introduce twist after twist and effectively manipulate the show to keep in or evict HM that they think will pull in the highest ratings.

Big Brother now is basically a lottery for the HM, even the actions of the HM are not genuinely reproduced on the highlights show, what with selective editing and little or no live feed it is not possible to really see all the HM and decide on a favourite.

With VTE and not VTS the lively characters leave far too early and coupled with boring tasks we are left with a show that if a lot of people on this forum were honest would say is struggling to emulate the shows of the past.

Anyone still not decided on a winner yet ? Gina,Dexter,Dan,Callum , strange after 4 weeks and still no clear favourite.....

[erinp5]

I am not happy at part two of the task
At the end of Day 2, the amount of money that the housemates have accumulated over the two days becomes a countdown in a final game. The housemates will be tasked with putting themselves into the order of who they think should win the show according to the viewers. The money on the Totaliser will count down while they make their decision and they will win however much is left on the Totaliser when they finally solve the correct line-up.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

I remember when you could only be put up for eviction by being one of the 3 HM or more with the highest Nominations, then BB started twisting the Nominations procedure with face to face Noms which did not reflect truly the HM that were going to be put up. then BB introduced save and replace which allowed a Nom HM to save him/herself at the expense of any other HM popular/Big character or not.

Now BB is changing the rules again to effectively lie to HM by rewarding them with safe house and Nom immunity only to secretly put them up for eviction again without any Nom procedure.

Is this Big Brother ?? really.....? with no real rules, a sort of anything goes mentality where the producers can introduce twist after twist and effectively manipulate the show to keep in or evict HM that they think will pull in the highest ratings.

Big Brother now is basically a lottery for the HM, even the actions of the HM are not genuinely reproduced on the highlights show, what with selective editing and little or no live feed it is not possible to really see all the HM and decide on a favourite.

With VTE and not VTS the lively characters leave far too early and coupled with boring tasks we are left with a show that if a lot of people on this forum were honest would say is struggling to emulate the shows of the past.

Anyone still not decided on a winner yet ? Gina,Dexter,Dan,Callum , strange after 4 weeks and still no clear favourite.....

Hi Nedusa,
You are one amazing member and poster and the above post is really excellent.
Well said and I agree with every word too of what is a really balanced Fair and totally correct post.

[Black Dagger]

So you make a thread about how it's great to get out deadwood, but then say you want Dan out the most (the one who's added more) oh ok.

[CaudleHalbard]

However, and it's a big however, this is Big Brother Secrets & Lies.

The clue as to the nature of the series is in the title!

It is not supposed to be like traditional BB, in every single respect. I am enjoying a change from the usual format which is a bit played out now.

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

However, and it's a big however, this is Big Brother Secrets & Lies.

The clue as to the nature of the series is in the title!

It is not supposed to be like traditional BB, in every single respect. I am enjoying a change from the usual format which is a bit played out now.

I don't think there is a format now, just see how we go, check facebook, check twitter and then bring in a new twist.... that's pretty much it

[waterhog]

i think they are doing very well - and if they are seeing feed back - then they are acting correctly - this BB has been no bore feast. good stuff.