[optimisticcynic]

Originally Posted by MatthewS

You get their their is a difference between saying an older woman might 'put me through my paces', and saying that 'any hole is a goal'....

The former is a specific comment on a woman's sexual behaviour projected by Dexter onto an unwilling and uncomfortable individual and I personally find it more offensive than a generic statement that a horny young lad makes pertaining to not caring who he sleeps with as long as he sleeps with someone. It's akin to the equally self-deprecating line "no standards no regrets."

Have just realised that the uproar on here may be because "any hole is a goal" has been misinterpreted to mean "using the fire exit" as opposed to the explanation above. This is not the case.

[optimisticcynic]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

Dexter, so far as I can recall, has made no suggestions to the female housemates regarding possible sexual activity between himself and them - not so much even as a "you make my winkie expand"

Nor has he grabbed at, and made lewd comments to, BB female staff.

As I said: what a pity one can't say the same for Saintly Sam!

He did though, and others on here will attest to that. I'm not a prude and think that anyone offended could just tell him to buzz off, but my concern is with the double standards as Dexter fans commence a smear campaign against Sam.

[optimisticcynic]

I have no idea why there's an elephant in my last post, or what it's meant to mean.

[GypsyGoth]

Originally Posted by optimisticcynic

I have no idea why there's an elephant in my last post, or what it's meant to mean.

[MatthewS]

Originally Posted by optimisticcynic

The former is a specific comment on a woman's sexual behaviour projected by Dexter onto an unwilling and uncomfortable individual and I personally find it more offensive than a generic statement that a horny young lad makes pertaining to not caring who he sleeps with as long as he sleeps with someone. It's akin to the equally self-deprecating line "no standards no regrets."

Have just realised that the uproar on here may be because "any hole is a goal" has been misinterpreted to mean "using the fire exit" as opposed to the explanation above. This is not the case.

Unwilling and uncomfortable? Unless you're secretly Jemima or her official representation, how could you possibly make that assertion? Jemima was never been shy to speak about sex or acts of that nature, I really doubt she took offence. If you think she'd have a problem with that comment, surely she must then have an issue with someone telling her that she's making his "winky' expand. One is definitely a little more eloquent and respectful then the other...

To be honest I don't know exactly what that term specifically refers to. We don't use that in Canada and I've never heard it before. I suspect that it means he'll shag anything with a pulse, but I suppose it could mean he'll also go with whatever hole is available. Either way isn't not really a 'positive' thing lol

You seem to dismiss all Sam's comments as acceptable because he's just a horny young lad. Dexter is only 4 years older. What's the cut off?

For the record I think Dexter has a LOT of things he needs to work on, one of them being how he views and treats woman, if what his VT says is accurate. He's also made a fairshare of d**khead remarks. I'm just noting that Sam had made "sleazy" comments as well, in some cases a little more inappropriate. I hold them both to the same standard.

[DanaC]

Originally Posted by erinp5

I agree but Sam is 23 FGS

*chuckles*

See, now, I think at 23 he is a young lad

[DanaC]

Originally Posted by optimisticcynic

The former is a specific comment on a woman's sexual behaviour projected by Dexter onto an unwilling and uncomfortable individual and I personally find it more offensive than a generic statement that a horny young lad makes pertaining to not caring who he sleeps with as long as he sleeps with someone. It's akin to the equally self-deprecating line "no standards no regrets."
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Well said.

[Speedster]

Originally Posted by Videostar

I posted this in another thread, but it's worth repeating as it was shown on BOTS the week Wolfy went.

Wolfy said in an interview that during the knife throwing task with Gina Sam said to the lady that was the assistant to the knife thrower "show us your gash for bangers and mash"...but we never saw that in the HL's show edit...Sam is being protected.

What a bad mannered git. I hope he's no being protected by BB-that's not fair, but after tonight's show things may change; we saw a different side to him.

[optimisticcynic]

Originally Posted by MatthewS

Unwilling and uncomfortable? Unless you're secretly Jemima or her official representation, how could you possibly make that assertion? Jemima was never been shy to speak about sex or acts of that nature, I really doubt she took offence. If you think she'd have a problem with that comment, surely she must then have an issue with someone telling her that she's making his "winky' expand. One is definitely a little more eloquent and respectful then the other...

To be honest I don't know exactly what that term specifically refers to. We don't use that in Canada and I've never heard it before. I suspect that it means he'll shag anything with a pulse, but I suppose it could mean he'll also go with whatever hole is available. Either way isn't not really a 'positive' thing lol

For the record I think Dexter has a LOT of things he needs to work on, one of them being how he views and treats woman, if what his VT says is accurate. He's also made a fairshare of d**khead remarks. I'm just noting that Sam had made "sleazy" comments as well, in some cases a little more inappropriate. I hold them both to the same standard.

Fair enough Matt. Jemima was uncomfortable though as she replied with something akin to "you will never find out", then complained to ne of the other girls. I am very ashamed that this is taking up my brain-space. She may not have been uncomfortable if asked by someone she was attracted to, but Dexter is that awkward and asexual it must have felt like her son was asking her about her sexual preferences. Hopefully Sam will grow up a tad, and Dexter will fade back into nothingness.

[Speedster]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

Edited out?

Hardly, the only time we used to hear him speak was when he said something like "you make my winky expand".

Which made it all the more bizarre to me when he nominated Jemima for going OTT with her innuendos. Bit hypocritical of him there.

This^^^^^^ I still say he played a big part in her getting evicted.

[MatthewS]

Originally Posted by optimisticcynic

Fair enough Matt. Jemima was uncomfortable though as she replied with something akin to "you will never find out", then complained to ne of the other girls. I am very ashamed that this is taking up my brain-space. She may not have been uncomfortable if asked by someone she was attracted to, but Dexter is that awkward and asexual it must have felt like her son was asking her about her sexual preferences. Hopefully Sam will grow up a tad, and Dexter will fade back into nothingness.

Yeah no worries, we obviously see it differently and that's perfectly fine. I think the question was posed to Dexter, it's not like he just went up to Jemima and made that claim on his own. They both certainly need to no a fair bit of growing up lol

[Maneki-neko]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Why Sam comments are not shown? BB is protecting him.

because he's cute and marketable for channel 5 obvs

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Cold Sweat

This must be what people are looking for in a winner this year - given the number of sleazy comments that Sam has made - and given that he is now favourite to win BB14.

*shakes head in disbelief*

Sam's turning into Anthony Hutton.

[Sandz38]

Originally Posted by Maneki-neko

because he's cute and marketable for channel 5 obvs

He's a floppy haired git!!

[Verbal]

Dear Daily Mail,

I am outraged at the crassness shown by a young lad of 24 using phrases such as this and influencing our precious, God fearing youth in such a horrible manner on a national TV show.

Whilst on the other hand HM Dexter is such a fine young man, who every young person should use as their role model. He's run strip clubs, he has a woman for every occasion, he has a girlfriend who he has no respect for, he has a gambling problem. I could go on.

I shall be complaining to Ofcom regarding this outrageous objectifying of women of a young, single, attractive lad from Wales. Whilst a fine, upstanding member of society such as Dexter is painted to look like a misogynistic. horrible young man. Which he clearly is not!

Yours,

Disgusted of Chichester

[JTM45]

The 'Dear Daily Mail' was a post-killer for me!
Didn't bother reading any further.