[KingOfTheMods]

Originally Posted by CynicalHermit

Oh there he is look, the original creator of exactly what i'm talking about. Johnny, you're on my ignore list btw, so I am not going to respond.

Never mind petal you're obviously sensitive. I'll keep you by my side with my superhuman might, Kryptonite.

[Verbal]

Before I get accused of conveniently avoiding certain posts. Kingofthemods I refer you to my post to Johnny, it applies to you also.

[James]

Originally Posted by CynicalHermit

You played that game yesterday, I practically wrote an essay in answer to you, which I am not going to repeat. You have been given examples, one of which has been removed since I flagged it up. What does that tell you? That i'm exactly right, thats what.

The poster of the removed thread made a lot of trollish or potentially offensive comments about a lot of housemates, not just Sam.

[Videostar]

[QUOTE=CynicalHermit;6250497]

Originally Posted by Videostar

You played that game yesterday, I practically wrote an essay in answer to you, which I am not going to repeat. You have been given examples, one of which has been removed since I flagged it up. What does that tell you? That i'm exactly right, thats what.

I haven't been given any examples at all, as for your link, it doesn't work so I haven't seen what you claim has been "micky taking of Sam's deafness".

Even if there has been any horrible comments about Sam's hearing problems I haven't been one of them, I don't like dull HM's and I don't think those like Sam should be allowed a free pass to the final (if not winning) simply because "you respect him"...which in my opinion is the same as the sympathy vote...INVALID REASONS.

[Kyle]

[QUOTE=Videostar;6250493]

Originally Posted by CynicalHermit

Lack of evidence is wrong with me...not EVER hearing from Sam supporters why he should win is wrong with me...you know, just facts that is what im interested in...that's all.

Does it matter that the Sam supporters have to give you a reason for wanting him to win, I'm not asking you for your reasoning behind your favourite that's up to you.

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by James

The poster of the removed thread made a lot of trollish or potentially offensive comments about a lot of housemates, not just Sam.

Which brings us back to my question, why/how do grown adults feel it is acceptable to say these things?

[Verbal]

[QUOTE=Videostar;6250528]

Originally Posted by CynicalHermit

I haven't been given any examples at all, as for your link, it doesn't work so I haven't seen what you claim has been "micky taking of Sam's deafness".

Even if there has been any horrible comments about Sam's hearing problems I haven't been one of them, I don't like dull HM's and I don't think those like Sam should be allowed a free pass to the final (if not winning) simply because "you respect him"...which in my opinion is the same as the sympathy vote...INVALID REASONS.

Ok, you're trolling me. I'm out. Last time - read Dana's post where she lists a few examples. The link as i've told you was removed for the exact reasons I created this thread.

Cya

[Black Dagger]

I don't 'hate' Sam because he's 'deaf' not in the slightest, I don't even hate him, he's one of the nicest, most decent guys to enter the house, but you can be nice and entertaining and he's been a zzzz fest for 8 weeks and now decides to start speaking up and whining because his friend has gone? Nah it's too late.

[Kyle]

[QUOTE=Videostar;6250528]

Originally Posted by CynicalHermit

I haven't been given any examples at all, as for your link, it doesn't work so I haven't seen what you claim has been "micky taking of Sam's deafness".

Even if there has been any horrible comments about Sam's hearing problems I haven't been one of them, I don't like dull HM's and I don't think those like Sam should be allowed a free pass to the final (if not winning) simply because "you respect him"...which in my opinion is the same as the sympathy vote...INVALID REASONS.

Invalid because you say so right? If somebody wants to support Sam in support of his deafness I don't care just like I wouldn't care if someone supported Dexter because he had the same name or Gina because of her ethnicity.

[Videostar]

[QUOTE=Simple Minds;6250530]

Originally Posted by Videostar

Does it matter that the Sam supporters have to give you a reason for wanting him to win, I'm not asking you for your reasoning behind your favourite that's up to you.

It's obvious why people want Dexter to win, or Gina, or even the The Twins...they have added to the shows entertainment in one way or another...Sam hasn't added anything at all, so my question to Sam supporters is a valid one....what has Sam done to deserve winning if it has nothing to do with his life story?

[KingOfTheMods]

[QUOTE=CynicalHermit;6250534]

Originally Posted by Videostar

Ok, you're trolling me. I'm out. Last time - read Dana's post where she lists a few examples. The link as i've told you was removed for the exact reasons I created this thread.

Cya

You can quote your own comments but not somebody else's? Dick move and if anyone is a troll it's probably located on these coordinates once I've gone.

[Videostar]

[QUOTE=Simple Minds;6250537]

Originally Posted by Videostar

Invalid because you say so right? If somebody wants to support Sam in support of his deafness I don't care just like I wouldn't care if someone supported Dexter because he had the same name or Gina because of her ethnicity.

So why don't they just admit that's why they want him to win, a sympathy and patronising vote for him, IMO.

We should be past this nonsense by now, surely...wanting someone to win because they have a life story, or they are black, or white, male or female, or they are from the same town as me....none of those reasons are valid.

[Kyle]

[QUOTE=Videostar;6250541]

Originally Posted by Simple Minds

It's obvious why people want Dexter to win, or Gina, or even the The Twins...they have added to the shows entertainment in one way or another...Sam hasn't added anything at all, so my question to Sam supporters is a valid one....what has Sam done to deserve winning if it has nothing to do with his life story?

I have explained my personal reasons multiple times now and it's getting tiring, I want him to win because he is the housemate that is most like me, I like his demeanour and little quips he comes out with, his laid back attitude and lack of drama he causes, if you don't think that's valid enough reasons then I'm sorry that's not my problem.

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[QUOTE=Simple Minds;6250537]

Originally Posted by Videostar

Invalid because you say so right? If somebody wants to support Sam in support of his deafness I don't care just like I wouldn't care if someone supported Dexter because he had the same name or Gina because of her ethnicity.

I am not supporting him 'because' he is deaf. I am supporting him because I respect how he has been able to adapt. People are just plain refusing to understand that.

The only other HM that I have had respect for was Dan due to him previously being a police officer. The threads on here about him and the 'I will never respect a Copper' comments, just say it all.

[Videostar]

[QUOTE=Simple Minds;6250554]

Originally Posted by Videostar

I have explained my personal reasons multiple times now and it's getting tiring, I want him to win because he is the housemate that is most like me, I like his demeanour and little quips he comes out with, his laid back attitude and lack of drama he causes, if you don't think that's valid enough reasons then I'm sorry that's not my problem.

Fair enough, if they are the reasons then that's your choice.

I could argue with those reasons but I have a different idea as to what a decent HM is.

We'll have to agree to disagree.

[Videostar]

[QUOTE=CynicalHermit;6250556]

Originally Posted by Simple Minds

I am not supporting him 'because' he is deaf. I am supporting him because I respect how he has been able to adapt. People are just plain refusing to understand that.

The only other HM that I have had respect for was Dan due to him previously being a police officer. The threads on here about him and the 'I will never respect a Copper' comments, just say it all.

He's had a whole life time to adapt, he isn't suddenly adapting since he entered the house, do you think he wants to be treated this way? isn't it better to treat him the same as everyone else.?

And it's unfair on the other HM's who luckily haven't had the same things to overcome as he has, Sam had an unfair advantage from the start in regards to being highly thought of for the reasons you come up with, so his dodgey behaviour gets largely overlooked because of that.

[Kyle]

Exactly videostar if we all agreed this forum would be a joke. I respect your opinions please respect mine.

[Kyle]

What's going on with the quoting its getting mixed up we are all quoting different people's responses with different names on,

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by Videostar

He's had a whole life time to adapt, he isn't suddenly adapting since he entered the house, do you think he wants to be treated this way? isn't it better to treat him the same as everyone else.?

And it's unfair on the other HM's who luckily haven't had the same things to overcome as he has, Sam had an unfair advantage from the start in regards to being highly thought of for the reasons you come up with, so his dodgey behaviour gets largely overlooked because of that.

Look, I like HM's because they are interesting, decent people and have led interesting lives and deal with challenges on a daily basis.

You like HM's because you find them playing 'its a knockout' type games amusing, despite them being total arseholes.

We're clearly operating on two different intellectual levels. If the show returned to the format that it was in BB1 I guess you would lose interest, where I would welcome it.

Just let it be, cos you are getting as tedious as the man in your avatar.

[Videostar]

Originally Posted by Simple Minds

Exactly videostar if we all agreed this forum would be a joke. I respect your opinions please respect mine.

I do respect yours, I respect that you are the first Sam supporter to at least answer my question, and I thank you for that.

[Videostar]

Originally Posted by CynicalHermit

Look, I like HM's because they are interesting, decent people and have led interesting lives and deal with challenges on a daily basis.

You like HM's because you find them playing 'its a knockout' type games amusing, despite them being total arseholes.

We're clearly operating on two different intellectual levels. If the show returned to the format that it was in BB1 I guess you would lose interest, where I would welcome it.

Just let it be, cos you are getting as tedious as the man in your avatar.

If it wasn't for Nasty Nick from BB1 there wouldn't have ever been a BB2 onwards...so the gameplayers are important to the shows survival...if the BB house was full of Sam or Sophie's of this world no one would be watching.

[MB.]

Well that was a fun read.

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by Videostar

If it wasn't for Nasty Nick from BB1 there wouldn't have ever been a BB2 onwards...so the gameplayers are important to the shows survival...if the BB house was full of Sam or Sophie's of this world no one would be watching.

Yes they would. I would. Its just you would have actual newspapers covering it with people discussing real issues, rather than having the glorified toilet paper that is the Daily Star covering it.

[Videostar]

I never read the newspapers, The Daily Star isn't even worth rubbing against my backside.

[Videostar]

Originally Posted by CynicalHermit

Yes they would. I would. Its just you would have actual newspapers covering it with people discussing real issues, rather than having the glorified toilet paper that is the Daily Star covering it.

What is the one HM still remembered from BB1? be honest.