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Old 17-08-2013, 03:24 AM #26
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Well ASSUMING he did lie...

That's a "gameplaying" call Dexter needs to make.

It might spell disaster for his chances in and out the house if he admitted it.
For one, those in the house would be able to take the moral highground over him and use it to their advantage (which tbh has already happened !)

Course if it was real life then I'd agree with you.
But it's not !
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morals & honesty mean nothing once you go in the house.
Well I wouldn't say nothing but certainly their importance is massively over-emphasized when you consider it's set in a gameplaying context.

I mean it's not like he's broken any rules if he decided to take the money and he DID lie about his reasons/motives.
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Well I wouldn't say nothing but certainly their importance is massively over-emphasized when you consider it's set in a gameplaying context.

I mean it's not like he's broken any rules if he decided to take the money and he DID lie about his reasons/motives.
Yes I agree to some extent but they really have no value in BB, no matter what people will be two faced in there so it's abit hypocritical people talking about morals and honesty.

I dont even think Dexter has been as dishonest in the house as people make out.

Yes he's far within his rights if he had ran away with the money, the majority of the public that were bashing him about trying to take the money ( if he was trying too ) would have done the same giving the chance.

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Yes I totally agree and actually think Sam is the hypocritical one.

I have huge doubts whether he was being honest as a dye playing in the twist game.

From your point of view, perhaps people like me are very wrong indeed to knock him for it (as it's just a game !) but like everyone, I will expose his possible "gameplan" (if it's one) for sure. especially as it's based upon a "moral" footing.

Now if he can pull it off and fool the public to win then maybe just maybe he DOES deserve to win !

But all in all, really don't think he does...
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Yes I totally agree and actually think Sam is the hypocritical one.

I have huge doubts whether he was being honest as a dye playing in the twist game.

From your point of view, perhaps people like me are very wrong indeed to knock him for it (as it's just a game !) but like everyone, I will expose his possible "gameplan" (if it's one) for sure. especially as it's based upon a "moral" footing.

Now if he can pull it off and fool the public to win then maybe just maybe he DOES deserve to win !

But all in all, really don't think he does...
Totally agree and thats your opinion, I dont think Sam deserves to win but thats just my opinion, if he wins fair play. At the end of the day we can all have different people we want to win and have different opinions, if anyone of them wins, they have earned it.
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Emma and the general viewing public see it too. Just a few loud folks 'round these parts turn a blind eye because they want their favorite to win.
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Unlike you of course who posted about 20 pointless pro-Sam threads within the space of 5 minutes.
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If Dexter was to act normally, maybe Emma might have something ice to say about him but he is a 24/7 liar and scammer. He gives her very little to pick on that's outside these parameters.
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Emma should be impartial it's very unprofessional of her
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Emma should be impartial it's very unprofessional of her
as I've just said in another thread, she should not be allowed to carry out the smear campaign.
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I know tozzie it's stupid i just don't get it at all.
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Before she criticizes Dexter she should at least acknowledge that the Twins clearly went for a lower total as well .
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Would love to see people's opinions if it was someone else that Emma was like this about

I dont much care about it, as I have seen BOTS as a joke show ever since their treatment of Aaron..but still. Its funny to see people claim that Emmas opinion is utter fact, just because it matches their own opinion

She was nearly crying when the audience member criticized the twins during the eviction. She is a good presenter, but her obvious bias lets her down.
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Ok fine.
So you think HM's shouldn't take a penny ?
Or is it only HOW you win ?

If so let me guess....

The winner of BB will have been completely honest over everything they've ever done in the BB house ?

Is that the idea ?

The winner should be perfect and squeaky clean ?
"gameplaying" should be banned ?!
They should take the oath before they enter the house ?
You asked if I would have taken the money and walked, and I said no.

I have no problem with a HM trying to take the money, if afterwards they didn't put on an act pretending to be devastated that they had the lowest and then lying through their teeth about it.
And I didn't like people twisting it round that Sam was the baddie and the thousand hate threads that sprang up because he had the nerve to tackle Dexter. Way out of proportion - and of course then people react to that unfairness.
I don't think the winner should be perfect (who is?) and squeaky clean. I just want them to be basically decent and not overly nasty or devious.
God forbid that game playing should be banned. I loved Speidi last year
I love watching 'all sorts' in the house - even Gina and Dexter. I just don't like them as people, and I don't want them to win as I need to at least like my winner even a little bit.
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All i'm going to say on the topic is that it's well know that no host of any show should ever make their opinions so obviously known. It's just yet another reason of why Big Brother never gets taken seriously by people, they're so unprofessional. You never see Dermot shouting his opinions at every possible opportunity on the X Factor, nor do Ant and Dec make their opinions known either... and there's a reason for that.

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Would love to see people's opinions if it was someone else that Emma was like this about

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Oooooooh I wonder who this is aimed at.

Simple fact of life Vicky I'll lay it out for ya,

Emma is perceived as bias towards a preferred housemate;

"Oh she's great, she is allowed her own opinion you can't stifle her"

Emma is perceived as bias against a preferred housemate;

"This is an outrage, she should be sacked, how dare she force her opinions on me"

That applies to fans of ALL housemates btw.
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Would love to see people's opinions if it was someone else that Emma was like this about

I dont much care about it, as I have seen BOTS as a joke show ever since their treatment of Aaron..but still. Its funny to see people claim that Emmas opinion is utter fact, just because it matches their own opinion

She was nearly crying when the audience member criticized the twins during the eviction. She is a good presenter, but her obvious bias lets her down.
So Dexter is STILL believed? That's interesting. Which version - the lucky numbers?
Oh, and if say my fave Dan turned out to be like Dexter is in the house and did exactly what Dexter did in the money twist and afterwards I would have went right off him.

I agree Emma can be biased. On this occasion I'm sure BB wanted to get it across via Emma that although they announced Dexter was the least greedy and safe from eviction, they weren't really rewarding him for his behaviour but had seen through him. Just for those who might not get it.
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