[james130]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

All 3 series have had points where they seemed to lose the initial ideas. Aliens and Anne Frank last year for example.

I think the way it started, it was easily on course to be the best thing they've done so far. There was action, suspense, history, and gore. Horror is in the title, so people complaining about the shock value of some scenes to be missing the point.

You can't keep that up for a whole season as there just wouldn't be any room for the story to run through it, and the side story lines to happen. It's definitely the best series to me, as I remember them.

American Horror Story.

It's not the shocking 'horror' scenes i'm on about. Gimme more of them.
It's things like the threesome thing, the jar of jizz and ott sex scene with Cordelia, the Kyle and his mom stuff...

I'm no prude but some of the stuff it's just like... 'really?'

[Smithy]

I think

Spoiler:

the "war" is gonna end up being resolved in the next couple of episodes, I think Queenie's gonna die, (seeing as she's credited as a guest star this season, rather than an actual main character, so I don't see why that'd be unless she died mid season.) and then the last few episodes will focus around the new supreme/misty/myrtle

[james130]

PS. Why'd they introduce the weird churchy neighbours so early and then not even mention them for a million episodes?
What is their purpose?

[james130]

Originally Posted by Smithy

I think

Spoiler:

the "war" is gonna end up being resolved in the next couple of episodes, I think Queenie's gonna die, (seeing as she's credited as a guest star this season, rather than an actual main character, so I don't see why that'd be unless she died mid season.) and then the last few episodes will focus around the new supreme/misty/myrtle

True, but I wouldn't write her out just yet.
They seem to be writing in the deaths as they go along so may/may not have planned for her to die when the titles were made...

Originally Posted by Ryan Murphy

“We were starting to break episode 8 or 9 and we were like, ‘Well, we can’t kill that person off because we need them for the spinoff.’ As soon as those words were said, I was like, ‘There is no spinoff.’ Because it took away from the joy of the show.

Originally Posted by james130

It's not the shocking 'horror' scenes i'm on about. Gimme more of them.
It's things like the threesome thing, the jar of jizz and ott sex scene with Cordelia, the Kyle and his mom stuff...

I'm no prude but some of the stuff it's just like... 'really?'

Aren't things like that really famously linked to the occult though? Sex rituals, ambiguity, and orgies come with the territory.

Apart from the sexual abuse, but it was hardly a hardcore porn scene. It's supposed to make you squirm and sit uncomfortably, otherwise what's the point?

Originally Posted by james130

PS. Why'd they introduce the weird churchy neighbours so early and then not even mention them for a million episodes?
What is their purpose?

As a plot device to make people think Maddy was the new supreme, it also added a contrast between the prim and proper Christian religion, and witchcraft? I don't know - I'm just speculating, but the chances are we'll see them again at some point.

[james130]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

Aren't things like that really famously linked to the occult though? Sex rituals, ambiguity, and orgies come with the territory.

Apart from the sexual abuse, but it was hardly a hardcore porn scene. It's supposed to make you squirm and sit uncomfortably, otherwise what's the point?

True, I just think if less focus was put into ensuring those scenes were made (Sometimes I do feel like they are just put in their for the sake of it) and more was put into their plot-holes then it would be better overall.

Originally Posted by james130

True, I just think if less focus was put into ensuring those scenes were made (Sometimes I do feel like they are just put in their for the sake of it) and more was put into their plot-holes then it would be better overall.

The sex ritual may have been a touch OTT, but it was a really striking cinematic visual. It also showed the desperation to have a baby, and that's partly how she ended up blind to begin with. It's a story, and stories don't have to be completely literal. There are bigger plot holes in a show about witches and immortality, than a sex scene with some snakes.

[james130]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

As a plot device to make people think Maddy was the new supreme, it also added a contrast between the prim and proper Christian religion, and witchcraft? I don't know - I'm just speculating, but the chances are we'll see them again at some point.

But why the big intro and promo shots for such a minor character.


Yeah, i'm sure we'll see them again but I meant in the same way as Misty, they seem very under-explored for so far into the season.

[james130]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

The sex ritual may have been a touch OTT, but it was a really striking cinematic visual. It also showed the desperation to have a baby, and that's partly how she ended up blind to begin with. It's a story, and stories don't have to be completely literal. There are bigger plot holes in a show about witches and immortality, than a sex scene with some snakes.

Of course that scene itself doesn't have plot holes and I didn't say it did. I'm referring to the other plot-holes you mention (that could be have been more developed) in regards to the relevance of that scene and others like it.

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Thought this episode was a bit meh, kinda saw it all coming, the episode in two weeks looks amazing though

Spoiler:

I think the witches will kill Fiona, then misty'll bring her back

Still don't like the axeman story, he's been in the house, able to manifest, yet he waited till then to do it, if he was a ghost why wasn't madison

You were not surprised at

Spoiler:

Spalding's

death?

[reece(:]

I really enjoyed the episode outside of the Axeman's character and it's nice to see Kyle get some proper development. Missed Nan, Myrtle and Misty's presence though.

And no new episode until December 4th

[Braden]

I like how this episode has taken things into a different direction.

- LaLaurie and Leveau's feud being relevant again
- Kyle actually being useful within the plot-line
- Everybody turning against Fiona

Next episode looks ah-mazing...I can't wait till the 4th December

[reece(:]

Teases
http://www.ew.com/ew/gallery/0,,2030...057039,00.html

[Me. I Am Salman]

*is watching from the UK pace now*

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by reece(:

You were not surprised at

Spoiler:

Spalding's

death?

Oh, a little, but he was kinda irrelevant anyway so idc about him

[reece(:]

Spoiler:

Just can’t wait to find out what happens in the next episode of American Horror Story: Coven? Ryan Murphy talked to Entertainment Weekly about his inspiration for the scenes and characters, as well as spoilers for the rest of the season.

On last night’s episode, Delphine was introduced to a new form of endless punishment for her sins when Queenie turns her over to Marie Laveau. “I love how Queenie finally does the right thing and Madame LaLaurie finally gets the justice she deserves,” said Murphy. “Well I just think now that Marie Laveau has her back she is going to make her life a living hell and she’s going to get her revenge. I think if LaLaurie thought living underground for all eternity was hell, she hasn’t seen nothing yet! It’s sort of an interesting synthesis of the rock up the hill idea because she can’t die.” Wow — a fate worse than being buried alive. Can’t wait to see what happens next!

But we’ll be able to see what happened in the past, too. They’re working on flashbacks to tell us more about Delphine. “We’re working on a great one right now that shows you how Madame LaLaurie became Madame LaLaurie. So we’re researching what actually happened to her. How did she go from being this creature to Jeffrey Dahmer? What happened?” I’m not sure I want to see what happened!

As for Queenie, she’ll be experiencing her own difficulties in the upcoming episodes. As she’s now a member of the voodoo witches, Murphy says, “Yes she’s trying to acclimate with that culture. She finds it both liberating but the truth of the matter is she does miss her friends over at the Robichaux house. She’s a lady torn.”

As for Spalding’s fate? He’s apparently not gone for long. “Well the interesting thing about that is he does come back of course,” said Murphy. “I think Spalding as a ghostly entity is almost more interesting than real life Spalding because he has many many many secrets. He knows where literally all the bodies are buried. The question is, who is he going to come back to protect?”

We have a lot more to be excited about next episode, though. Cordelia has a lot of work to do. “Well something happens in the next episode that is very eye-opening and illuminating for Cordelia which is this idea that no matter how much she hates her mother and no matter how horrible she is Fiona really is the strongest witch of them all,” said Murphy. “Do you get rid of your strongest player at a time when the witch hunters are trying to kill you? Also, Fiona is so smart she’s going to know if her daughter is trying to off her.” So they’re going to attempt something intense in the next episode. “It’s a tradition that dates back to the Salem days. Sometimes to protect other witches, a witch is allowed to create a sacred act, which is taking her own life. It is about that idea and the question is you know Fiona’s not going to go there on her own accord so the other witches try and get to her a place of trying to do that.”

Murphy even gave us some information about later episodes. Apparently Hank is going to wreak quite a lot of havoc soon. “Well he’s planning a big big big doomsday event, which we deal with in our winter cliffhanger, which is two episodes from now. It’s not pretty. It’s a great episode called ‘Head.’ Everything is about things that happen in the head.” Oh boy, we’d better get prepared!

[reece(:]

Apparently

Spoiler:

Delphine gets beheaded and when her head is sewn back on she returns to her old evil self

[Ammi]

..I'm so gutted that I can't watch this atm and trying not to look at any spoilers..:'(...

[reece(:]

http://vt.tumblr.com/tumblr_mxbmta0uMl1ruz6lg.mp4#_= <3 <3 <3 <3

[james130]

Was really disappointed with this weeks episode.
Would have liked more of Queenie/Laveau
and

Spoiler:

I could see the headless LaLaurie thing from a mile away.

Next weeks looks much better!

[Smithy]

I thought it was a really good ep, next weeks looks great too

Next weeks is the last ep until the new year though

[swinearefine]

Meh, was pretty unimpressed. I loved this season to begin with, but I like every episode less and less. I want more Laveau, Queenie, LaLaurie, Misty, and Myrtle. Don't really care about any of the other characters. Kyle is a waste of space, Zoe is dull, Madison should have stayed dead since she's done nothing since she's been back, and Cordelia has no charisma whatsoever. I miss Asylum it was the perfect show, hopefully next year they can return to that caliber. Coven seems like they're making it up as they go along, and not doing a very good job of it.

[james130]

Originally Posted by swinearefine

Meh, was pretty unimpressed. I loved this season to begin with, but I like every episode less and less. I want more Laveau, Queenie, LaLaurie, Misty, and Myrtle. Don't really care about any of the other characters. Kyle is a waste of space, Zoe is dull, Madison should have stayed dead since she's done nothing since she's been back, and Cordelia has no charisma whatsoever. I miss Asylum it was the perfect show, hopefully next year they can return to that caliber. Coven seems like they're making it up as they go along, and not doing a very good job of it.

Agree with this tbf.

[Tom4784]

I thought it was a fun episode, Myrtle Snow is a fierce bitch.

Spoiler:

The past few episodes have just been setting up the mid series finale I think, hopefully it'll all pay off. I do hope they develop Marie's character a bit more though, she was interesting at first but now she's just an unsympathetic 2D villain.

Also why are all the mothers on this show ****ed up?