[Vanessa]

I think once you go down that road it's very hard to go back sadly.

[JTM45]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I think once you go down that road it's very hard to go back sadly.

Very much so.
Not many people who have a serious habit ever really get over it. Some people manage to stay clean for years and then they'll just have a bad day or be in the wrong place at the wrong time and before they know it they're drowning in their habit again.
There really needs to be more government funding to help people in these situations rather than just spending the money on criminalizing the end user, the person who has an addiction problem, an illness.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by JTM45

Very much so.
Not many people who have a serious habit ever really get over it. Some people manage to stay clean for years and then they'll just have a bad day or be in the wrong place at the wrong time and before they know it they're drowning in their habit again.
There really needs to be more government funding to help people in these situations rather than just spending the money on criminalizing the end user, the person who has an addiction problem, an illness.

I agree.

[Nedusa]

If it is confirmed as a Heroin overdose then in the absence of a suicide note will the coroner change the verdict of her death from natural causes to misadventure or accidental death.

We will never know for sure if this was a normal drug taking that went wrong due to a contaminated or very pure batch.

Or was it a deliberate overdose ie suicide, I guess it may even have been just a miscalculation as to the amount to take especially if she had not taken it for a long time.

[JTM45]

They probably will just put it down as misadventure or accidental if there's no actual proof of intentional suicide.
I did read somewhere that there's speculation that someone had been into her house and disposed of any drugs/drug paraphernalia before the police got there. Kinda' makes sense if it was a drug induced death because even if she used all of the heroin she had there still would have been a syringe and her bits and bobs to be found.

[Niamh.]

Sad to see history repeating itself like that, such a waste of a life.

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..it could still have been accidental and not suicide though...

But why was she doing it in the first place, especially after losing her mother to it... makes no sense to me.

[arista]

From the Court today
Heroin is confirmed as part of her death.

Other mates were in the flat the day before
so they may have taken the Junkie gear away
with them.

[Livia]

Why was she doing it while she was in sole charge of her kids? I'd be interested to know what "Mother & Baby" magazine thought qualified her to write a column in their publication.

[Shaun]

I hardly think a magazine matters.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Shaun

I hardly think a magazine matters.

My point is that people like her are held us as examples. I mean, look at the celebrities who get awarded "Mother of the Year" because they've managed to squeeze out a kid. Meanwhile ordinary women with extraordinarily complicated lives, low incomes, proper jobs and all kinds of pressures juggle their lives around a family and get no recognition at all. Peaches Geldof gets a magazine column so she can impart her thoughts and wisdom to mere mortals and turns out she's caring for her kids while she's smacked out of her face.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Livia

Why was she doing it while she was in sole charge of her kids? I'd be interested to know what "Mother & Baby" magazine thought qualified her to write a column in their publication.

The kids would be in Bed
while the junkies do drugs.


It was a Secret
but who ever gave her the last stuff killed her



Mother and Baby Writing was Daytime


and at Night
her Junkie mates get on down


Typical Young Woman

[Beastie]

Like mother like daughter It's a sad state of affairs but it's what happens guys!

[Livia]

Originally Posted by arista

The kids would be in Bed
while the junkies do drugs.


It was a Secret
but who ever gave her the last stuff killed her



Mother and Baby Writing was Daytime


and at Night
her Junkie mates get on down


Typical Young Woman

Oh so she was only a junkie at night while the kids were in bed? That's okay then.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by arista

The kids would be in Bed
while the junkies do drugs.


It was a Secret
but who ever gave her the last stuff killed her



Mother and Baby Writing was Daytime


and at Night
her Junkie mates get on down


Typical Young Woman

She is not typical of any young mother that I know. In fact if she lived in a Council flat and was jobless she would be called all sorts for doing drugs in the same place that she is bringing up her kids. But because she is Peaches Geldof its all "very sad".

[Cherie]

Personally I don't think she intended to die, and tweeting the picture of her Mum the day before was just a macarbe coincidence.

[Kizzy]

I think the intention was to kill herself in the way her mother died, my thinking is it was depression.

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Personally I don't think she intended to die, and tweeting the picture of her Mum the day before was just a macarbe coincidence.

We may never know.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

We may never know.

or care

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

or care

indeed. Paula Yates overdosed presumably because she couldn't live without Michael Hutchence, I would have thought Peaches couldn't bear to put her children and family through what they all went through after Paula, obviously she loved heroin more.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I think the intention was to kill herself in the way her mother died, my thinking is it was depression.

No it was a error
her mates brought and took the Junkie gear
the day before.


On the day of her death no junkie gear was found
unless her husband took it away fast


She loved her kids and husband
no way was she meant to die - in her mind

[arista]

Originally Posted by Livia

Oh so she was only a junkie at night while the kids were in bed? That's okay then.

No its Not OK
but thats what goes on
in many homes

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by arista

No it was a error
her mates brought and took the Junkie gear
the day before.


On the day of her death no junkie gear was found
unless her husband took it away fast


She loved her kids and husband
no way was she meant to die - in her mind

Is there a link to that info?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

or care

Indeed.

[arista]

So it was the Husband that found her Dead
she was in the spare room slummed over a bed.

So he could have removed anything he wanted
his mother was also entering the house.


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