[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

So by that logic, this would also be right: A mother leaves her 2 year old alone at night while she goes out drinking, a fire starts and the child is killed, it's not the mothers fault cos she didn't start the fire?

That is not a parallel with the mccann situation. If a fire had started there it would have been spotted and the children rescued

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

That is not a parallel with the mccann situation. If a fire had started there it would have been spotted and the children rescued

No, you're missing the point I'm making, you're saying that the McCanns should not be considered guilty of neglecting their children by leaving them home alone, in an unlocked apartment because they weren't the ones that abducted her (if that's what happened) so by that logic they would not be guilty if anything bad happened to her while she was in the apartment alone that night including an accident or a fire, unless the McCanns were the direct cause.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

That is not a parallel with the mccann situation. If a fire had started there it would have been spotted and the children rescued

It doesn't take long for people to be killed in a fire, just a couple of breathes of smoke into the lings and that's it. How could you be so sure they'd be rescued?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

No, you're missing the point I'm making, you're saying that the McCanns should not be considered guilty of neglecting their children by leaving them home alone, in an unlocked apartment because they weren't the ones that abducted her (if that's what happened) so by that logic they would not be guilty of anything bad happened to her while she was in the apartment alone that night including an accident or a fire, unless the McCanns were the direct cause.

The neglect aspect is just your own opinion, they did not see any issue and as there is no law broken thats the end of it. I am sure that if they analysed your parenting they could highlight aspects that would raise their eyebrows.



Like putting Guinness on their cornflakes in the morning

[Marsh.]

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

The neglect aspect is just your own opinion, they did not see any issue and as there is no law broken thats the end of it. I am sure that if they analysed your parenting they could highlight aspects that would raise their eyebrows.



Like putting Guinness on their cornflakes in the morning

Well, it doesn't take an in-depth analysis to work out that you don't leave babies (and that's all those 3 kids were) alone at night while you go drinking, I would have thought that'd be pretty high up on the "what not to do as a parent list"

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Well, it doesn't take an in-depth analysis to work out that you don't leave babies (and that's all those 3 kids were) alone at night while you go drinking, I would have thought that'd be pretty high up on the "what not to do as a parent list"

In this instance they looked at the set up and considered it reasonable

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

No i think they use spoons

[Marsh.]

Yeah, criticising parents' bedtime routines, meals, forms of discipline etc is one thing but there are some things which are common sense and you'd think most parents would know when it comes to the safety of their kids.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

In this instance they looked at the set up and considered it reasonable

Even after one night their daughter informs them that she cried herself to sleep after not being able to find them and they didn't even hear her?

And yet they said they did regular checks?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

Even after one night their daughter informs them that she cried herself to sleep after not being able to find them and they didn't even hear her?

And yet they said they did regular checks?

We are party to snippets of info and conjecture. They looked at the set up and situation and thought it ok.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

Even after one night their daughter informs them that she cried herself to sleep after not being able to find them and they didn't even hear her?

And yet they said they did regular checks?

Exactly. How they could actually go ahead and do the same thing the following night after that is just plain shocking

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

In this instance they looked at the set up and considered it reasonable

Reasonable to leave 3 babies alone in an unlocked apartment mmhhmm

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

We are party to snippets of info and conjecture. They looked at the set up and situation and thought it ok.

No we were treated to blow by blow details by the McCann's themselves on Crimewatch.

I'm not relaying media spin, I'm relaying their own account of events.

Yes, they did look at the set up and consider it ok that's kind of where alarm bells are ringing because the description of the situation tells me it was everything but ok.

[Benjamin]

Is there actually any proof this guy is a pedophile? It's so easy to throw that accusation around but if this man was being actually being a concerned person then that has just cost him his reputation as that label will now be stuck with him for the rest of his life and people will be doubtful of him no matter what.

People wonder why people don't help other people. This is why.

[Marsh.]

It's a tough one because he seems to be approaching when the mother is very close, to me it would be quite obvious that it's her child.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

Is there actually any proof this guy is a pedophile? It's so easy to throw that accusation around but if this man was being actually being a concerned person then that has just cost him his reputation as that label will now be stuck with him for the rest of his life and people will be doubtful of him no matter what.

People wonder why people don't help other people. This is why.

You couldn't possibly identify the man from that video, it's far too grainy so I would say his reputation is fine

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

You couldn't possibly identify the man from that video, it's far too grainy so I would say his reputation is fine

But people that live in that area will no doubt find out. Word gets around in local communities quickly.