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I believe you Helen ...not

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[Mystic Mock]

Helen taking Ashleigh under her wing, what a kind lady.

[jet]

Since Ashleigh was cheered and given immunity in the public vote, Helen has been all over her like a rash. As her fans like to point out, she's so transparent.

[chuff me dizzy]

And still Ashleigh sat smiling whilst Helen attacked her supposed best mate

[joeysteele]

I think it is Ashleigh that has been all over Helen a bit more actually than Helen as to her.
Ashleigh has spent the whole series saying she near hated Helen and virtually wanted nothing to do with her, then she is doing her hair and responding to all approaches from Helen now.
'AFTER' Danielle was evicted.

For me it is very much a case of 6 of one and half a dozen of the other, however Helen would always speak to ashleigh and also tell her to her face any thing bad she felt about her,unlike the 2 faced Ashleigh who could only dare to say all the bad things she thought behind Helen's back to others.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I think it is Ashleigh that has been all over Helen a bit more actually than Helen as to her.
Ashleigh has spent the whole series saying she near hated Helen and virtually wanted nothing to do with her, then she is doing her hair and responding to all approaches from Helen now.
'AFTER' Danielle was evicted.

For me it is very much a case of 6 of one and half a dozen of the other, however Helen would always speak to ashleigh and also tell her to her face any thing bad she felt about her,unlike the 2 faced Ashleigh who could only dare to say all the bad things she thought behind Helen's back to others.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by jet

Since Ashleigh was cheered and given immunity in the public vote, Helen has been all over her like a rash. As her fans like to point out, she's so transparent.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

And still Ashleigh sat smiling whilst Helen attacked her supposed best mate

The same way Danielle sat and agreed with Helen when she slagged Ashleigh off...
This is the Helen that says it to peoples faces

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I think it is Ashleigh that has been all over Helen a bit more actually than Helen as to her.
Ashleigh has spent the whole series saying she near hated Helen and virtually wanted nothing to do with her, then she is doing her hair and responding to all approaches from Helen now.
'AFTER' Danielle was evicted.

For me it is very much a case of 6 of one and half a dozen of the other, however Helen would always speak to ashleigh and also tell her to her face any thing bad she felt about her,unlike the 2 faced Ashleigh who could only dare to say all the bad things she thought behind Helen's back to others.

Helen may say things to people directly but she does not listen to the reply thus negating it. Ashleigh is only 18 and has no male protector inthe house.

big big difference

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Nice one I am sure, don't read it if you get bored with what I think.

I just get fed up too of hearing all Ashleighs supposed great qualities and her supposedly having no bad ones while Helen is the devil incarnate.

However, people have the right to do that and think that way as to Ashleigh just as I have to respond my way too as to what is said.

Whether I agree with someone or not, I never find their comments tedious or boring,I prefer to respect their opinion while in no way altering mine.
If that is okay with you.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I think it is Ashleigh that has been all over Helen a bit more actually than Helen as to her.
Ashleigh has spent the whole series saying she near hated Helen and virtually wanted nothing to do with her, then she is doing her hair and responding to all approaches from Helen now.
'AFTER' Danielle was evicted.

For me it is very much a case of 6 of one and half a dozen of the other, however Helen would always speak to ashleigh and also tell her to her face any thing bad she felt about her,unlike the 2 faced Ashleigh who could only dare to say all the bad things she thought behind Helen's back to others.

Helen doesn't though...she has been seen loads of times talking about people
bitching behind their backs...she slagged off Ashleigh to Danielle...she was overheard on more than one occasion bitching with Kimberley in the toilet...

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Helen doesn't though...she has been seen loads of times talking about people
bitching behind their backs...she slagged off Ashleigh to Danielle...she was overheard on more than one occasion bitching with Kimberley in the toilet...

She did,following the time Ashleigh was caught out when they were able to watch her on the vt and also hear the playbacks,what is good for the goose should be good for the gander.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Helen may say things to people directly but she does not listen to the reply thus negating it. Ashleigh is only 18 and has no male protector inthe house.

big big difference

With respect LT, Ashleighs age has nothing to do with how she is in the house.
Why should she or any female housemates need a 'male' protector in the house anyway?
Over near all BB series, the Female housemates usually have been the strongest as to entertainment and making their points too.

When I was 18, I was off to Uni, away from my family, hundreds of miles away, I hardly ever saw them,I had to do my studies and help run a house with others too.

Ashleigh is only in the BB house,for 10 weeks at the maximum, she is protected, fed and there by her own choice of applying to be so too.

Nothing special as to as her being 18.

[Kazanne]

I don't want them to be friends,I prefer Helen as she was . Don't fall for it Helen!!

[Achilles]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I don't want them to be friends,I prefer Helen as she was . Don't fall for it Helen!!

What does it matter who they are friends with?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Nice one I am sure, don't read it if you get bored with what I think.

I just get fed up too of hearing all Ashleighs supposed great qualities and her supposedly having no bad ones while Helen is the devil incarnate.

However, people have the right to do that and think that way as to Ashleigh just as I have to respond my way too as to what is said.

Whether I agree with someone or not, I never find their comments tedious or boring,I prefer to respect their opinion while in no way altering mine.
If that is okay with you.

Way to go Joey,I am more than happy to listen to your opinions as they are not blinkered or biased,one reason I don't like Ashleigh is because some people forget what she has said,and support her blindly ,with nothing much to say about her really other than "how sweet" she is ,yeah she is pretty sickly.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Achilles

What does it matter who they are friends with?

It doesn't ,I just prefer her to stick with Chris,everyone Ashleigh has been close to has gone,I just think Helen is fine as she is

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

The same way Danielle sat and agreed with Helen when she slagged Ashleigh off...
This is the Helen that says it to peoples faces

Difference is Helen would quite boldly say anything to their faces if she was challenged over it,Ashleigh would run off tell Chris and cuddle her teddy.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Nice one I am sure, don't read it if you get bored with what I think.

I just get fed up too of hearing all Ashleighs supposed great qualities and her supposedly having no bad ones while Helen is the devil incarnate.

However, people have the right to do that and think that way as to Ashleigh just as I have to respond my way too as to what is said.

Whether I agree with someone or not, I never find their comments tedious or boring,I prefer to respect their opinion while in no way altering mine.
If that is okay with you.

You don't find them tedious or boring...unyet you are fed up with them!! Sounds a bit of a contradiction to me.
I am bored of people saying Helen says it how it is to peoples faces' when she so blatantly doesn't some of the time...that's my opinion Joey..and the little men dozing signified that. Don't be offended. It's just an opinion.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by jet

Since Ashleigh was cheered and given immunity in the public vote, Helen has been all over her like a rash. As her fans like to point out, she's so transparent.

Ashleigh has been gagging to get in Helens group for weeks,now ,all her friends are being evicted she's taking her chance to get in with the woman she called vile and would NEVER be friends with

[Ellen]

The title of the vid is OTT imo, like a lot of other vids.

The fact they can talk and have a laugh is a good thing but Helen and Ashleigh are not bff's. It is because certain HM's are gone and they have decided to keep the peace rather than be at loggerheads the whole time.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

You don't find them tedious or boring...unyet you are fed up with them!! Sounds a bit of a contradiction to me.
I am bored of people saying Helen says it how it is to peoples faces' when she so blatantly doesn't some of the time...that's my opinion Joey..and the little men dozing signified that. Don't be offended. It's just an opinion.

Helen does say it to peoples faces and also behind their back,difference is Ashleigh just does it behind their back,most of us have seen that with our own eyes.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

You don't find them tedious or boring...unyet you are fed up with them!! Sounds a bit of a contradiction to me.
I am bored of people saying Helen says it how it is to peoples faces' when she so blatantly doesn't some of the time...that's my opinion Joey..and the little men dozing signified that. Don't be offended. It's just an opinion.

Pardon, I said I found I got 'fed up' of hearing Asheligh's supposed 'good' qualities while then being ignored as to her, any 'bad' ones she may have.
I 'never' said I was fed up with the 'people making such comments', kindly don't read into what I say what I haven't said or even indicated.

You are the one who rather than make a comment made a negative, and to me a near insulting, post as to myself.

With respect you put dozing responses to my 'whole' post,not part of it.
As I said just ignore my posts if they send you to sleep.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Difference is Helen would quite boldly say anything to their faces if she was challenged over it,Ashleigh would run off tell Chris and cuddle her teddy.

But that's just it Kazanne...Helen slagged Ashleigh off...she has bitched in the toilet unyet time after time people come on here saying the difference with Helen is she says it to their faces...well she quite blatantly doesn't.
If she has to wait till she is challenged how does that make Ashleigh more of a bitch than Helen..Ashleigh stood up for herself when Helen confronted her..so where is the difference?
Helen is bold...she isn't scared of confrontation but she still bitches behind peoples back...that's the point I am making.
Ashleigh is opinionated but she is not as bold as Helen and that's an age and confidence thing. Helen may confront people with her opinion..but she is intimidating and nasty when people argue back and she gets personal...she is a vile person to argue with which is why people avoid an argument with her.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Ellen

The title of the vid is OTT imo, like a lot of other vids.

The fact they can talk and have a laugh is a good thing but Helen and Ashleigh are not bff's. It is because certain HM's are gone and they have decided to keep the peace rather than be at loggerheads the whole time.

Exactly...however since Helen heard the cheers for Ashleigh and since she got immunity Helen has been going further than that and has complimented her in the last two HL shows. Go easy there Helen, no need for the overkill Nothing wrong with wanting to be in with a fave, its a gameshow. It's good they are being civil to each other and having a laugh though.