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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

And still Ashleigh sat smiling whilst Helen attacked her supposed best mate

The same way Danielle sat and agreed with Helen when she slagged Ashleigh off...
This is the Helen that says it to peoples faces

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

The same way Danielle sat and agreed with Helen when she slagged Ashleigh off...
This is the Helen that says it to peoples faces

Difference is Helen would quite boldly say anything to their faces if she was challenged over it,Ashleigh would run off tell Chris and cuddle her teddy.

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Originally Posted by Kazanne

Difference is Helen would quite boldly say anything to their faces if she was challenged over it,Ashleigh would run off tell Chris and cuddle her teddy.

But that's just it Kazanne...Helen slagged Ashleigh off...she has bitched in the toilet unyet time after time people come on here saying the difference with Helen is she says it to their faces...well she quite blatantly doesn't.
If she has to wait till she is challenged how does that make Ashleigh more of a bitch than Helen..Ashleigh stood up for herself when Helen confronted her..so where is the difference?
Helen is bold...she isn't scared of confrontation but she still bitches behind peoples back...that's the point I am making.
Ashleigh is opinionated but she is not as bold as Helen and that's an age and confidence thing. Helen may confront people with her opinion..but she is intimidating and nasty when people argue back and she gets personal...she is a vile person to argue with which is why people avoid an argument with her.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

But that's just it Kazanne...Helen slagged Ashleigh off...she has bitched in the toilet unyet time after time people come on here saying the difference with Helen is she says it to their faces...well she quite blatantly doesn't.
If she has to wait till she is challenged how does that make Ashleigh more of a bitch than Helen..Ashleigh stood up for herself when Helen confronted her..so where is the difference?
Helen is bold...she isn't scared of confrontation but she still bitches behind peoples back...that's the point I am making.
Ashleigh is opinionated but she is not as bold as Helen and that's an age and confidence thing. Helen may confront people with her opinion..but she is intimidating and nasty when people argue back and she gets personal...she is a vile person to argue with which is why people avoid an argument with her.

That's what I said Rusti,Helen does both,Ashleigh doesn't ,which makes it worse for me as she is putting forward a false persona.

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Originally Posted by Kazanne

That's what I said Rusti,Helen does both,Ashleigh doesn't ,which makes it worse for me as she is putting forward a false persona.

But don't you think that that's more of an age thing and not having the confidence to confront people.
When I was 18 I wouldn't say boo to a goose but over the years and dealing with the public in my work I have built up confidence to hold my own. However opinionated I am I still don't like confrontation... I too would avoid confrontation with Helen but if she attacked me I would fight back. Helen did confront Ashleigh and I thought she held her own well.
Not one person in there has confronted Helen NOT ONE...and I don't believe many of them found her outbursts acceptable or comfortable...Ashleigh did voice opinion albeit not to her face...but Helen has done the same.
Helen has bitched a lot about Ashleigh....and only confronted her once when she had Kiimberley and Jale standing behind her...

[jet]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

But don't you think that that's more of an age thing and not having the confidence to confront people.
When I was 18 I wouldn't say boo to a goose but over the years and dealing with the public in my work I have built up confidence to hold my own. However opinionated I am I still don't like confrontation... I too would avoid confrontation with Helen but if she attacked me I would fight back. Helen did confront Ashleigh and I thought she held her own well.
Not one person in there has confronted Helen NOT ONE...and I don't believe many of them found her outbursts acceptable or comfortable...Ashleigh did voice opinion albeit not to her face...but Helen has done the same.
Helen has bitched a lot about Ashleigh....and only confronted her once when she had Kiimberley and Jale standing behind her...

[jet]

Ashleigh gets criticized on this forum as much as Helen does.
Helen is a nasty piece of work so that is understandable.
Ashleigh is a strong, smart girl who is a big threat to peoples faves so that is understandable.
Those who champion Helen are fewer but more vocal as Ashleigh is amazing and they have to dig deep to find fault.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by jet

Ashleigh gets criticized on this forum as much as Helen does.
Helen is a nasty piece of work so that is understandable.
Ashleigh is a strong, smart girl who is a big threat to peoples faves so that is understandable.
Those who champion Helen are fewer but more vocal as Ashleigh is amazing and they have to dig deep to find fault.

Ashleigh would be fine if people admitted she has faults,they don't ,simple as.That is a big reason I went off her all the totally ott stuff,it's kinda childish,afterall ,they don't give a toss about us,not even Ashleigh

[Ellen]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Ashleigh would be fine if people admitted she has faults,they don't ,simple as.That is a big reason I went off her all the totally ott stuff,it's kinda childish,afterall ,they don't give a toss about us,not even Ashleigh

This ^^

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Ashleigh would be fine if people admitted she has faults,they don't ,simple as.That is a big reason I went off her all the totally ott stuff,it's kinda childish,afterall ,they don't give a toss about us,not even Ashleigh

childish? what show you watching

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[QUOTE=Kazanne;7107227]Ashleigh would be fine if people admitted she has faults,they don't ,simple as.


Are you saying you don't like Ashleigh because her fans don't see or admitted her faults?
I wish Ashleigh had stood up and told her to her face...I wish housemates including Ashleigh would have stood up to Helen when she was being abusive to people. However as I have said Helen is so vile when she argues..she attacks,insults and won't let people defend themselves...maybe that's why people have just avoided any sort of confrontation.