[alex_front2]

vte has taken a battering, but with this "shock" double eviction, does it now have edge on vote to save".

[CaudleHalbard]

The idea of having vote to save on an eviction show has always baffled me.

I've always preferred VTE. The one year VTS was used on civilian BB, it proved to be a flop IIRC.

[karl100589]

I think it's lead to tactical voting becoming a lot more prominent, previously VTE has been dominated by impulse media not thinking about the repercussions of their actions. Now however the audience has begun to get savvy and utilise the system cynically for their own gain. Think about the evictions this year:

Tamara- to spite Helen
Matthew- to spite Ashleigh
Jale- to save Ashleigh
Saving Pav- To get Bianca out and help Ashleigh stay
Zoe- To save Chris
Winston- To eliminate the threat of him winning.

I think the fanbase on social media has also changed, more forumers are using social media more actively and the lower viewing figures have pushed the power away from casual fans and more towards the diehard supporters.

[karl100589]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

The idea of having vote to save on an eviction show has always baffled me.

I've always preferred VTE. The one year VTS was used on civilian BB, it proved to be a flop IIRC.

I don't think so, but I was an Aaron fan so...

[Robodog]

Originally Posted by karl100589

I think it's lead to tactical voting becoming a lot more prominent, previously VTE has been dominated by impulse media not thinking about the repercussions of their actions. Now however the audience has begun to get savvy and utilise the system cynically for their own gain. Think about the evictions this year:

Tamara- to spite Helen
Matthew- to spite Ashleigh
Jale- to save Ashleigh
Saving Pav- To get Bianca out and help Ashleigh stay
Zoe- To save Chris
Winston- To eliminate the threat of him winning.

I think the fanbase on social media has also changed, more forumers are using social media more actively and the lower viewing figures have pushed the power away from casual fans and more towards the diehard supporters.

Totally agree.

I can't believe how Emma, Rylan etc were all so baffled as to why Winston left and kept asking why and how?

Not one of them seemed to realise the impact social media campaigns have on BB voting now.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Robodog

Totally agree.

I can't believe how Emma, Rylan etc were all so baffled as to why Winston left and kept asking why and how?

Not one of them seemed to realise the impact social media campaigns have on BB voting now.

I didn't understand that at all, how could emma, rylan, and the bots audience be so out of touch. can't help but feel it was scripted shock

[CaudleHalbard]

Originally Posted by karl100589

I think the fanbase on social media has also changed, more forumers are using social media more actively and the lower viewing figures have pushed the power away from casual fans and more towards the diehard supporters.

I agree. "Campaigns" on the web used to be largely a waste of time but nowadays can have a very big impact.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by karl100589

I think it's lead to tactical voting becoming a lot more prominent, previously VTE has been dominated by impulse media not thinking about the repercussions of their actions. Now however the audience has begun to get savvy and utilise the system cynically for their own gain. Think about the evictions this year:

Tamara- to spite Helen
Matthew- to spite Ashleigh
Jale- to save Ashleigh
Saving Pav- To get Bianca out and help Ashleigh stay
Zoe- To save Chris
Winston- To eliminate the threat of him winning.

I think the fanbase on social media has also changed, more forumers are using social media more actively and the lower viewing figures have pushed the power away from casual fans and more towards the diehard supporters.

I agree, it's become much more strategic due to campaigns than simply voting in/out who you do/don't like.

[MrMinaj]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

The idea of having vote to save on an eviction show has always baffled me.

I've always preferred VTE. The one year VTS was used on civilian BB, it proved to be a flop IIRC.

far from it IMO

[Jules2]

Excuse my ignorance, what is VTS please and the other Vs mentioned. I am a poor old soul who doesnt always understand all the abbreviations. I love the way that favourite HMs fans unite together for a soul/sole purpose.

[Tip]

VTS = Vote to save
VTE = Vote to evict

[chuff me dizzy]

Last night was a prime example of why i love vote to evict ,its gets the one out you want

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

I didn't understand that at all, how could emma, rylan, and the bots audience be so out of touch. can't help but feel it was scripted shock

I had to laugh and wanted to shout out "hey dont you read the forums and peoples opinions". I didnt see anyone fighting Winston's corner and on another note I havent seen anyone put in a good word for the Goodes so why are they on our screens?

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by Tip

VTS = Vote to save
VTE = Vote to evict

Oh what a plonker, thankyou. We make life so difficult for ourselves I was looking for something much more extravagant. A lot of it does makes sense but every so often my brain goes to sleep

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by Tip

VTS = Vote to save
VTE = Vote to evict

Originally Posted by karl100589

Tamara- to spite Helen

I'm pretty sure the Tamara-voting was because she was so dull compared to Jale and Danielle.

[Livia]

I'm a massive fan of vote to evict. Last night's eviction was brilliant, particularly to see the smile melt from Helen's face. I hate it when thugs and b1tches are allowed free reign in the house because some people mistake their stupidity and attention-seeking as "entertainment", and we can't vote to evict them.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Livia

I'm a massive fan of vote to evict. Last night's eviction was brilliant, particularly to see the smile melt from Helen's face. I hate it when thugs and b1tches are allowed free reign in the house because some people mistake their stupidity and attention-seeking as "entertainment", and we can't vote to evict them.

VTS generates much less income, so VTE is here to stay. I think it is a much more interesting dynamic when its VTE because a hm has to keep all the voters happy if they want to survive, not just be popular with 1 particular group

[*mazedsalv**]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

The idea of having vote to save on an eviction show has always baffled me.

I've always preferred VTE. The one year VTS was used on civilian BB, it proved to be a flop IIRC.

You mean the two years? BB12 and BB13? Certainly worked in BB12 as Aaron won

[Flamingjoe]

Originally Posted by *mazedsalv**

You mean the two years? BB12 and BB13? Certainly worked in BB12 as Aaron won

Despite Aaron winning, the series was still absolutely ghastly. It was, without question, the worst ever.

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

Originally Posted by Flamingjoe

Despite Aaron winning, the series was still absolutely ghastly. It was, without question, the worst ever.

I disagree with you I think BB12 was a better series than this one, only because there were more likeable HM's in that series than this one ....IMHO

[MrMinaj]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

VTS generates much less income, so VTE is here to stay. I think it is a much more interesting dynamic when its VTE because a hm has to keep all the voters happy if they want to survive, not just be popular with 1 particular group

this is not correct at all. where did you get that information from?

[AbbieJ]

Vote to evict is the better option IMO