[Rustic bauble]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

No dear, not a Helen fan. My opinion on a housemate's words, you know what everybody does on a discussion forum? Interprets things differently?

Don't patronise dear.. Discuss facts..not fiction. What Ashleigh said was what Ashleigh said..humbly admitting Helen deserved a better exit..give credit where credits due.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Don't patronise dear.. Discuss facts..not fiction. What Ashleigh said was what Ashleigh said..humbly admitting Helen deserved a better exit..give credit where credits due.

No dear. If what housemates said and did was black and white then everyone on this board would be in clear agreement on everything and the housemates wouldn't be real people.

So either prove that I'm wrong with evidence or accept that my opinion differs from yours.

[jessicadanielle]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Don't patronise dear.. Discuss facts..not fiction. What Ashleigh said was what Ashleigh said..humbly admitting Helen deserved a better exit..give credit where credits due.

If Ashleigh says something mean, she's a bitch. If Ashleigh says something nice, she's a bitch.
Dunno why it's so hard for some people to admit that we all have a nice and a not-so-nice side, even Helen and Ashleigh

[kistar]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Yeah, she was disappointed Helen had to leave through the diary room because Ashleigh wanted to hear the audience reaction to her. Little madam.

When did she say that? I heard her say she wouldn't wish that kind of exit on her worst enemy and she felt sorry for Helen having to go that way?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by jessicadanielle

If Ashleigh says something mean, she's a bitch. If Ashleigh says something nice, she's a bitch.
Dunno why it's so hard for some people to admit that we all have a nice and a not-so-nice side, even Helen and Ashleigh

I haven't said that but thanks for the input.

[kistar]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

No dear. If what housemates said and did was black and white then everyone on this board would be in clear agreement on everything and the housemates wouldn't be real people.

So either prove that I'm wrong with evidence or accept that my opinion differs from yours.

If you let me know when it was you heard her say about the crowd reaction I'll have a look at the footage I've got it recorded , was it when she was talking to Christopher?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by kistar

When did she say that? I heard her say she wouldn't wish that kind of exit on her worst enemy and she felt sorry for Helen having to go that way?

Because when people speak every word is literal?

By this post you clearly didn't understand what I was explaining in my last post so I'll politely end it here.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by kistar

If you let me know when it was you heard her say about the crowd reaction I'll have a look at the footage I've got it recorded , was it when she was talking to Christopher?

Nobody said she mentioned the crowd dear.

[jessicadanielle]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I haven't said that but thanks for the input.

Didn't quote you

[kistar]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Because when people speak every word is literal?

By this post you clearly didn't understand what I was explaining in my last post so I'll politely end it here.

Okay

[kistar]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Nobody said she mentioned the crowd dear.

You said Ashleigh wanted to hear the crowd reaction?

[kistar]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Yeah, she was disappointed Helen had to leave through the diary room because Ashleigh wanted to hear the audience reaction to her. Little madam.

This

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by kistar

You said Ashleigh wanted to hear the crowd reaction?

Yes, did I say she spoke those words? No. Again, you clearly didn't understand my prior explanation but no matter.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by kistar

This

Yes? Is there something tripping you up?

Here it is again

Did I say she spoke those words? No.

No dear. If what housemates said and did was black and white then everyone on this board would be in clear agreement on everything and the housemates wouldn't be real people.

So either prove that I'm wrong with evidence or accept that my opinion differs from yours.

[kistar]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Yes, did I say she spoke those words? No. Again, you clearly didn't understand my prior explanation but no matter.

Oh so you thought that's what she was thinking?

[kistar]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Yes? Is there something tripping you up?

Here it is again

How can anyone argue with what you thought a person might possibly be thinking on the understanding that you might possibly be wrong in what you are thinking?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by kistar

How can anyone argue with what you thought a person might possibly be thinking on the understanding that you might possibly be wrong in what you are thinking?

I never said I'm definitely not wrong, you are telling me my opinion is wrong. Big difference.

In simple terms...
Not everything people say is literal.
This forum discusses housemates behaviour, when we think they're lying, when they're being fake, disingenuous etc.

Are you closer?

She already went from not holding grudges and appreciating, being happy for each and every housemate to spewing bile about Helen upon her eviction.

[kistar]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I never said I'm definitely not wrong, you are telling me my opinion is wrong. Big difference.

In simple terms...
Not everything people say is literal.
This forum discusses housemates behaviour, when we think they're lying, when they're being fake, disingenuous.

Are you closer?

Lol Marsh you make me laugh, I'm saying you wrote a post, it looked like a statement but actually it was an opinion based on what you thought which means ofcourse it's not wrong as an opinion ........ It just looked like a statement . I think your opinion is valid but its likely to be wrong .........

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by kistar

I'm saying you wrote a post, it looked like a statement but actually it was an opinion based on what you thought which means ofcourse it's not wrong as an opinion ........ It just looked like a statement . I think your opinion is valid but its likely to be wrong .........

You can disagree with me all you like, that's fine. But telling me I'm wrong because she didn't say those words is false. I never said she said the words. I'm glad we got there in the end anyhow. Lol

Originally Posted by kistar

Lol Marsh you make me laugh

I aim to please.

[kistar]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

You can disagree with me all you like, that's fine. But telling me I'm wrong because she didn't say those words is false. I never said she said the words. I'm glad we got there in the end anyhow. Lol



I aim to please.

Love your posts Marsh

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by kistar

Love your posts Marsh

Yours aren't bad either.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Also she said that Ashleigh contradicted herself in the Diary room because Ashleigh told Christopher that she was glad Helen was gone but she said she wasn't happy she'd gone in the Diary room, but that's not actually true, what she said in the Diary Room was that she wasn't happy that she had to leave the way she did, through the Diary room door

Originally Posted by jessicadanielle

Exactly!! And even said the words "no, I don't really care that she's not here" in the DR when speaking to Lucy.

I get that in some situations Helen might just get angry and remember the bad stuff, but in this situation I think she was just lying and twisting to make Ashleigh seem two-faced to Ash

..when she overheard Chris and Ashleigh discussing her I thought that maybe her mind process and how she is only allows for her to hear negatives and that she didn't intentionally leave out the positives of what she heard when relaying it to others but last night, she so definitely to me twisted it completely because Ashleigh only said it was an awful way to be evicted and she wouldn't wish it on anyone ..who would, regardless of your own personal feelings for a housemate..?...only the very most spiteful of people...


..I also think now over the last few days that really Helen has not even stepped one toe on a 'journey' tbh and I've swayed so much with my opinions of her but when it was thought they were being evicted for real, Ashleigh did say she was sorry when they hugged ...let's not go back to 'blame' or who said what/did what because she was acknowledging a part and apologising..and yet Helen said she would not apologise for anything, they could all naff off..so who is showing 'maturity' there....Helen has absolutely learned nothing through this time in the house of herself and how much negativity she's going to bring on and brings on herself in life .....

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..when she overheard Chris and Ashleigh discussing her I thought that maybe her mind process and how she is only allows for her to hear negatives and that she didn't intentionally leave out the positives of what she heard when relaying it to others but last night, she so definitely to me twisted it completely because Ashleigh only said it was an awful way to be evicted and she wouldn't wish it on anyone ..who would, regardless of your own personal feelings for a housemate..?...only the very most spiteful of people...


..I also think now over the last few days that really Helen has not even stepped one toe on a 'journey' tbh and I've swayed so much with my opinions of her but when it was thought they were being evicted for real, Ashleigh did say she was sorry when they hugged ...let's not go back to 'blame' or who said what/did what because she was acknowledging a part and apologising..and yet Helen said she would not apologise for anything, they could all naff off..so who is showing 'maturity' there....Helen has absolutely learned nothing through this time in the house of herself and how much negativity she's going to bring on and brings on herself in life .....