[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes I know
but the only way to ensure you kill all
the terrorists
is by carpet bombing
which then kills innocents with them.

I don't think that needs to be the case if you are working with the Nations where they are and with their support and intelligence services too.

Having said that, what is the answer then, let them continue.
Sadly very bad things have to happen to move forward sometimes.

What you say is right,no doubt as to that.
For me, this organisation has to be got rid of and I could be likely persuaded now as to any measures to do so.

[arista]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I don't think that needs to be the case if you are working with the Nations where they are and with their support and intelligence services too.

Having said that, what is the answer then, let them continue.
Sadly very bad things have to happen to move forward sometimes.

What you say is right,no doubt as to that.
For me, this organisation has to be got rid of and I could be likely persuaded now as to any measures to do so.

No the nations are not working with America.

Sure down under is

[arista]

[arista]

The CIA has confirmed
its over 30, 000
members of IS
spread across the two nations

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by arista

So like when America Carpet Bombed Iraq
you want that?

The US never carpet bombed Iraq. We always used highly sophisticated targeted bombs and missiles.

[Ninastar]

In an awful way, (not saying this is a good thing) I'm kind of glad that this is waking up the world to what these people are like. I feel like people underestimated what these terrorists are capable of. Just because there's been no 'attacks' for a couple of years in the UK/USA/R.O.W, doesn't mean that they aren't still at large.

People have been predicting for a long time that they would get strong again if we pulled the troops out too early. Looks like they were right, sadly :/

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

In an awful way, (not saying this is a good thing) I'm kind of glad that this is waking up the world to what these people are like. I feel like people underestimated what these terrorists are capable of. Just because there's been no 'attacks' for a couple of years in the UK/USA/R.O.W, doesn't mean that they aren't still at large.

People have been predicting for a long time that they would get strong again if we pulled the troops out too early. Looks like they were right, sadly :/

Good points Ninastar. I too am glad not only other Nations are waking up to this but also the Middle East countries too it seems.
These creatures are in effect the enemy of everyone in my view.

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Good points Ninastar. I too am glad not only other Nations are waking up to this but also the Middle East countries too it seems.
These creatures are in effect the enemy of everyone in my view.

agreed. I wish we could have a huge world meeting and discuss what could be done about these people...

[arista]

Another British Hostage
sadly now on new video talking.


A new video has been released showing another Briton believed to be held hostage by Islamic State militants.

In the footage, John Cantlie - understood to be a journalist - is sitting behind a desk as he speaks to the camera.

http://news.sky.com/story/1338066/ne...ritish-hostage

[The video marks a significant change of tactics for Isil, which has previously
released footage of hostages being executed in a desert.
In the new video, the hostage appears sitting at a table in a darkened room wearing
orange Guantanamo Bay-style robes and speaks directly to the camera.
The video is shot from several different angles and incorporates Arabic subtitles. ]

[joeysteele]

I better keep quiet, the level of how annoyed I am at these displays from these vile creatures just gets worse as to this taking of and parading of the hostages they have.

I really don't care now how at all it is done but wiping these things off the face of the earth should be the World's priority.

[arista]

This is John Cantlie of the Telegraph paper


http://news.sky.com/story/1338066/ne...ritish-hostage
Video on the above link

[reece(:]

Apparently ISIS are now plotting to assassinate Pope Francis

Pope Francis is at risk of an assassination attempt by ISIS extremists, the Vatican has been warned before his first visit to a Muslim-majority country this weekend.

Iraq’s ambassador to the Holy See said yesterday that there were credible threats to the Pope’s life as he prepares to visit Albania on Sunday.

The 77-year-old pontiff could also be vulnerable when he travels to Turkey in November, Habeeb al-Sadr said.

Jihadists from Islamic State of Iraq and Al-Sham have in recent weeks boasted of wanting to extend their so-called caliphate to Rome, and have talked of planting the jihadi black flag on top of St Peter’s Basilica.

They could try to kill him during one of his overseas trips or even in Rome
Mr. Sadr said there were also indications of a more specific threat against the Pope, who he said had made himself a target by speaking out against abuses committed against Christians in Syria and Iraq, as well as expressing his support for the US in its efforts to halt the advance of ISIS.

“What has been declared by the self-declared Islamic State is clear: they want to kill the Pope. The threats against the Pope are credible,” the ambassador told Italy’s La Nazione newspaper yesterday.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/09...-vatican-city/

[Brother Leon]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

In an awful way, (not saying this is a good thing) I'm kind of glad that this is waking up the world to what these people are like. I feel like people underestimated what these terrorists are capable of. Just because there's been no 'attacks' for a couple of years in the UK/USA/R.O.W, doesn't mean that they aren't still at large.

People have been predicting for a long time that they would get strong again if we pulled the troops out too early. Looks like they were right, sadly :/

Said this earlier myself and I agree. It's a shame it took them kidnapping and killing people from our own countries for the government to truly wake up to these animals. They should have been on the radar when they were doing this to innocent Arabs in their own countries , but it was kind of brushed aside as they were fighting "the good fight" on the whole and rebelling against their leaders.

[Angelika]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

high of a percentage there are of 'extremists' in this religion. A pretty scary thought

A few hundred years ago in the Dark & Middle Ages the Catholics were rampaging around Europe killing heretics and witches and people not on side. Many of our stately homes still have "priest holes" and that's from Henry VIII
Its not that long ago since the terrible problems with Protestants and Catholics in Ireland. Please God, that has to be over now - that raged on for centuries too.
Our history is littered with religious war & uprisings.

[arista]

[MTVN]

Obama is crazy for wanting to arm and train 'moderate' Syrian rebels thinking they can fight both Isis and Assad. At the start of the uprising there may have been moderate groups establishing a decent foothold but now they're barely on the map, they were swallowed up by the Islamist groups long ago. Those that remain don't have the means to effect anything really and arming them just runs the risk of those arms falling into the hands of Isis. Training them in Saudi Arabia is dangerous as well considering that the Saudi state is founded on beliefs a lot closer to Isis than those of the US. There was some truth in the letter that the Syrian government sent to the US earlier this week:

Syria, of course, insists no “moderate” opposition now exists in the country, a statement which carries the mark of truth, and that all opponents of Mr Assad’s rule were from the start Wahhabi-inspired Sunni jihadists – which was not in fact the case. Mr Laham’s letter accuses Saudi Arabia, which funds Mr Assad’s enemies, of sponsoring schools which are “teaching the ideology of hate, ‘takfiri’ [a Muslim accusing a fellow Muslim of apostasy] and jihad as holy duty”.

Re-emphasising its own loathing of the Saudi regime, the Syrian letter says all “terrorists” are the product of “this Salafi, Wahhabi, jihadi ideology – from 9/11, to [the] Boston bombing, to the beheading of the two American journalists – beheading, which is a governmental legal practice in Saudi Arabia”. Mr Obama should not form any coalition outside UN Resolution 2170, “especially with states that have a conflict of interest due to their practised ideology.”

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...b-9737292.html