[arista]

OK PM


Well Sky/Ch4
BBC and ITV

change your format
put the greens on the panels
its the only fecking way.

The BBC claim they may get a legal problem from
the SNP if they let the Greens in.
OK well feck off BBC


Now Get it Worked OUT

[joeysteele]

He is right, they will make mincemeat of him as to his so called 'green' policies he was stressing he would preside over in the 2010 election campaign, however he is spot on, they should be in the debates if UKIP are to be.

[arista]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

He is right, they will make mincemeat of him as to his so called 'green' policies he was stressing he would preside over in the 2010 election campaign, however he is spot on, they should be in the debates if UKIP are to be.

But the BBC worry about a Legal threat from the SNP
who have much more than the greens.

So I say take the BBC out of it
have the Sky/Ch4
and ITV/LBC
its better than nothing

[Northern Monkey]

Good call from the PM.

[arista]

Originally Posted by EyeballPaul

Good call from the PM.

yes It would be a bigger debate




Just Get the Poxy BBC out of it

[bots]

Given that the SNP are the 3rd biggest party in Britain, they have more right to be represented than the lib dems so the BBC are correct to be worried about a legal challenge if the greens, who have minimal support in the scheme of things, do get a voice.

[zakman440]

Wow, for once I actually agree with him!

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

But the BBC worry about a Legal threat from the SNP
who have much more than the greens.

So I say take the BBC out of it
have the Sky/Ch4
and ITV/LBC
its better than nothing

I don't agree with the SNP, despite my admiration for them and their policies,being included in the election debates, the debates should have only the leaders of Parties who are seeking election across the UK generally.

I actually think the BBC debate was the worst of the 2010 election ones anyway.
The BBC has lost the art of leading in these things now, in fact they lost it a good while ago in ym opinion.

[arista]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Given that the SNP are the 3rd biggest party in Britain, they have more right to be represented than the lib dems so the BBC are correct to be worried about a legal challenge if the greens, who have minimal support in the scheme of things, do get a voice.

Sure
but Remove The BBC

Let the others do them

[arista]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I don't agree with the SNP, despite my admiration for them and their policies,being included in the election debates, the debates should have only the leaders of Parties who are seeking election across the UK generally.

I actually think the BBC debate was the worst of the 2010 election ones anyway.
The BBC has lost the art of leading in these things now, in fact they lost it a good while ago in ym opinion.

Yes but The SNP will have a Legal Battle with the BBC



So Get the Poxy BBC out of this

[bots]

Originally Posted by arista

Sure
but Remove The BBC

Let the others do them

That doesn't make sense Any other channel will be at as much risk of a legal challenge as the bbc would be, so excluding the bbc is irrelevant. Also, at the present time, it is the uk public broadcast channel, it is simply not acceptable to exclude them.

[arista]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

That doesn't make sense Any other channel will be at as much risk of a legal challenge as the bbc would be, so excluding the bbc is irrelevant. Also, at the present time, it is the uk public broadcast channel, it is simply not acceptable to exclude them.

Sure but they can afford it


Its fine to remove the BBC
ITV
Sky/CH4
will do fine

[Shaun]

About time tbh. As for the SNP/PC... it seems unnecessary to me. Whilst I'm sure they're terribly important in Scotland what's the point of broadcasting them to me in south Devon? Do they even stand for seats that aren't in Scotland?

Unless of course there're separate debates in which case have one in Scotland with Lab/Con/UKIP/Green/SNP/Lib Dem, one in Wales with Lab/Con/UKIP/Green/P.C./Lib Dem, and one in England with the 5 multi-national parties.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Shaun

About time tbh. As for the SNP/PC... it seems unnecessary to me. Whilst I'm sure they're terribly important in Scotland what's the point of broadcasting them to me in south Devon? Do they even stand for seats that aren't in Scotland?

Unless of course there're separate debates in which case have one in Scotland with Lab/Con/UKIP/Green/SNP/Lib Dem, one in Wales with Lab/Con/UKIP/Green/P.C./Lib Dem, and one in England with the 5 multi-national parties.

As the SNP could be the group that decides who is in government and helps shape the policies of the next government, I would say it was pretty important people knew what they were about and therefore included in the relevant debates

[arista]

Originally Posted by Shaun

About time tbh. As for the SNP/PC... it seems unnecessary to me. Whilst I'm sure they're terribly important in Scotland what's the point of broadcasting them to me in south Devon? Do they even stand for seats that aren't in Scotland?

Unless of course there're separate debates in which case have one in Scotland with Lab/Con/UKIP/Green/SNP/Lib Dem, one in Wales with Lab/Con/UKIP/Green/P.C./Lib Dem, and one in England with the 5 multi-national parties.

Yes Confirmed on BBC regional

[MTVN]

I don't know what Cameron is playing at really, he's opened up a minefield. Its fairly obvious his motives are cynical and now its opening the door from everyone from the SNP to the SDLP to George Galloway to demand to be included

[arista]

On the Sunday Politics
David Davis MP said they will happen
as there is also the Telegraph/YouTube Option
with the Greens as well

He was saying it does not have to be on TV.


Bloody Right

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

On the Sunday Politics
David Davis MP said they will happen
as there is also the Telegraph/YouTube Option
with the Greens as well

He was saying it does not have to be on TV.


Bloody Right

It would be a realy bad and damaging position for David Cameron not to take part in the leaders debates.
He would leave himself looking really ridiculous.

As a footnote, David Davis would have been a far better leader for the Conservative party in my view.

[arista]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

It would be a realy bad and damaging position for David Cameron not to take part in the leaders debates.
He would leave himself looking really ridiculous.

As a footnote, David Davis would have been a far better leader for the Conservative party in my view.

Of course
but he has a right to ask for the Greens to be there
and its good a Newspaper and YouTube live
can do one.

I think Other papers and YouTube
can also do it


Feck the Poxy BBC

[JoshBB]

Obviously as a green supporter I'm probably a little bit accidentally bias, so I will try and respond impartially.

I think that the green should be included since when the planning for these debates were going on, the greens had a seat whereas UKIP didn't - it was just media hype. I am thankful for David Cameron saying that he will not participate, and for the newspaper-wide support.. but I can't help but feel that this is only because Cameron knows that it could steal labour votes and not because he feels it is fair. Maybe thats why Ed has decided to back away.

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I don't agree with the SNP, despite my admiration for them and their policies,being included in the election debates, the debates should have only the leaders of Parties who are seeking election across the UK generally.

I agree that it should only be parties who are uk-wide in the uk-wide debates, it seems logical.

[arista]

Originally Posted by JollyBB

Obviously as a green supporter I'm probably a little bit accidentally bias, so I will try and respond impartially.

I think that the green should be included since when the planning for these debates were going on, the greens had a seat whereas UKIP didn't - it was just media hype. I am thankful for David Cameron saying that he will not participate, and for the newspaper-wide support.. but I can't help but feel that this is only because Cameron knows that it could steal labour votes and not because he feels it is fair. Maybe thats why Ed has decided to back away.

Ed wants debates with a empty chair?


But as the Telegraph /YouTube Live
can have the Greens and the PM
and the rest
then thats the way to go.


As the PM told the TV deal
to add the Greens - They said No



Be better without the Bloated BBC

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by arista

Ed wants debates with a empty chair?


But as the Telegraph /YouTube Live
can have the Greens and the PM
and the rest
then thats the way to go.


As the PM told the TV deal
to add the Greens - They said No



Be better without the Bloated BBC

Based on his political opinions, I really like Ed Miliband.. but that's where it stops really. It seems utterly pathetic to exclude a party with similar views to yours just to try and retain votes. It's just not democratic.

[arista]

Originally Posted by JollyBB

Based on his political opinions, I really like Ed Miliband.. but that's where it stops really. It seems utterly pathetic to exclude a party with similar views to yours just to try and retain votes. It's just not democratic.

Yes Ed is Scared as the Greens are now taking
Labour Voters
and so are UKIP
in some zones.



Yes Democracy
the PM is right


The Labour Leader is Wrong Wrong Wrong

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes Ed is Scared as the Greens are now taking
Labour Voters
and so are UKIP
in some zones.



Yes Democracy
the PM is right


The Labour Leader is Wrong Wrong Wrong

Ed Miliband is not against the Greens being part of the debates, he is saying it is wrong for the PM to refuse to take part in them no matter the situation.

If Nick Clegg and Ed Miliband are taking part then so should for sure David Cameron as the sitting PM.
David Cameron was not saying the Greens should be there before the body looking at the deabtes format reached its conclusion recently.
He has now only said the Greens should be there afterwards.

David Cameron is threatening the whole of the debates b saying he won't if the Greens aren't.

I also don't think it that sure the Greens would take votes from labour because of such debates, the Greens and certianly Caroline Lucas, their MP, would for sure never wnat another Conservative led govt after the chaos of this one.

I think it would be good to have the Greens and Labour in the debates,pointing out the failure of David Cameron to ina ny way furtehr a green' agenda as to polices for the last 5 years.
In fact it is David Cameron who would likely be sidelined more if the Grens are there.

I totally agree with Josh, when these debates were being set out, the Greens were the ones with an MP and they should be there still in my view.
I think they should have been there in the last ones too in 2010.

It is not Ed Miliband running away from the debates, the only person threatening to do that is David Cameron using the Greens as an excuse to do so.
Although absolutely, he is right to be saying now, something he hasn't ever been saying until now however,that the Greens should be there,even moreso if UKIP are too.


I would love the Greens to be there,.
The more leaders there are pointing out the social wrongs as to policies of this Govt. and the complete lack of David Cameron's promised more green agenda stated in 2010 as to policy,the better for me.
As many parties lining up saying the Conservative way is the wrong way will do me fine in the debates.
The 'Greens' would certainly be saying that pretty loud and clear as to Cameron's Conservative party too and as to all the time he has had so far in govt. as PM..