[Pincho Paxton]

He's put me off cheese!

[Jack The Cat]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

well perez has put me off going gay

Perez would advise you to "Go Gay, For Pay".

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Jack The Cat

Perez would advise you to "Go Gay, For Pay".

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

well perez has put me off going gay

Im not bothering either

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Im not bothering either

that is 2 recruits down

not sure about Morsh though

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by Miranda123

I dont see how you can suggest that someone so obviously deranged can be a good father, Ive no doubt he loves the child, and would not mean to do anything bad to it, but his influence will destroy this childs life as sure as the nose on your face

This is not about gay adoption/surrogacy etc but about a manic schizophrenic bringing up a kid without medication, no adoption agency would sanction his parentage and therefore he should not be allowed to raise a child

Id say the same about Alicia, unfortunately, she is already giving her kids the idea that dying is better than having no boobs

Im sure breast cancer sufferers loved that little gem of hers, thick f..king insensitive bitch!

His son isn't adopted though its his biological son.

I agree his performance on tv is embaressing to the child but so are pretty much any parent who goes on CBB. Im just saying he could actually be a good dad so why don't we just focus on the twat he is inside the house and not on his little boy.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

His son isn't adopted though its his biological son.

I agree his performance on tv is embaressing to the child but so are pretty much any parent who goes on CBB. Im just saying he could actually be a good dad so why don't we just focus on the twat he is inside the house and not on his little boy.

The baby is a surrogate baby,he should be removed, you cannot buy safety and security and this innocent child is being raised by a mentally disturbed freak

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

I stand by my point. If fags want to be offended that he his representing them, then so be it. But he does not offend me or my sexuality and he does not represent all gay men and those gay men that think differently clearly have a long way to go with feeling comfortable with themselves.

Nah im totally comfortable with myself I just look at the bigger picture and gay culture and struggles since the 1950's and do not give a selfish attitude.

The younger gay generation are very disrespectful to the struggles gay people went through decades ago to get us where we are today actually they don't give those people a 2nd thought and tend to mock the older generation when they see them out in the clubs.

The point im making as Perez is using the homophobia card and when gay people want to be treated as equal how are we going to get that when theres fags like him in the world out to accuse everyone of being homophobic.

It really gives out the opinion that us gays can throw the homophobia card out there and use it to our advantage and its not true.

People will be afraid to say something to us incase they think we may get offended and that sucks.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

The baby is a surrogate baby,he should be removed, you cannot buy safety and security and this innocent child is being raised by a mentally disturbed freak

The baby is his biological son, he said so to Ken on the very first night.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

The baby is his biological son, he said so to Ken on the very first night.

Still a surrogate baby ,he bought him ,IMO as a Mother and Grandmother that poor baby is not safe being brought up by someone so clearly unstable

[abhorson]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Nah im totally comfortable with myself I just look at the bigger picture and gay culture and struggles since the 1950's and do not give a selfish attitude.

The younger gay generation are very disrespectful to the struggles gay people went through decades ago to get us where we are today actually they don't give those people a 2nd thought and tend to mock the older generation when they see them out in the clubs.

The point im making as Perez is using the homophobia card and when gay people want to be treated as equal how are we going to get that when theres fags like him in the world out to accuse everyone of being homophobic.

It really gives out the opinion that us gays can throw the homophobia card out there and use it to our advantage and its not true.

People will be afraid to say something to us incase they think we may get offended and that sucks.

Well written.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Still a surrogate baby ,he bought him ,IMO as a Mother and Grandmother that poor baby is not safe being brought up by someone so clearly unstable

You can't 'buy' babies, that is illegal.. I'd imagine that he probably paid for the woman's health care during the pregnancy, but he is the child's biological father, you can't deem him to be a bad parent based on what you see on a TV show, where he is blatantly playing a character to try to be 'entertaining'

Why can't we just stick to discussing people as housemates rather then getting uber personal and bringing their parenting skills into question, jesus christ.

[VanessaFeltz.]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Nah im totally comfortable with myself I just look at the bigger picture and gay culture and struggles since the 1950's and do not give a selfish attitude.

The younger gay generation are very disrespectful to the struggles gay people went through decades ago to get us where we are today actually they don't give those people a 2nd thought and tend to mock the older generation when they see them out in the clubs.

The point im making as Perez is using the homophobia card and when gay people want to be treated as equal how are we going to get that when theres fags like him in the world out to accuse everyone of being homophobic.

It really gives out the opinion that us gays can throw the homophobia card out there and use it to our advantage and its not true.

People will be afraid to say something to us incase they think we may get offended and that sucks.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

You can't 'buy' babies, that is illegal.. I'd imagine that he probably paid for the woman's health care during the pregnancy, but he is the child's biological father, you can't deem him to be a bad parent based on what you see on a TV show, where he is blatantly playing a character to try to be 'entertaining'

Why can't we just stick to discussing people as housemates rather then getting uber personal and bringing their parenting skills into question, jesus christ.

So theres no such thing as surrogate babies? Oh please love, you're looking silly now

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Still a surrogate baby ,he bought him ,IMO as a Mother and Grandmother that poor baby is not safe being brought up by someone so clearly unstable

Oh get a grip you have no idea how his personal life is so why don't you move on and actually discuss Perez in the house this is getting dull now.

The thread isn't about him being a good dad its about how the gay community perceive him and asking if we are offended by his behaviour.

Seriously talking about peoples children....Not on.

[abhorson]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

You can't 'buy' babies, that is illegal.. I'd imagine that he probably paid for the woman's health care during the pregnancy, but he is the child's biological father, you can't deem him to be a bad parent based on what you see on a TV show, where he is blatantly playing a character to try to be 'entertaining'

Why can't we just stick to discussing people as housemates rather then getting uber personal and bringing their parenting skills into question, jesus christ.

Surrogacy for payment is legal in the USA i believe. Money, money, money which is why there is so many agencies.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

So theres no such thing as surrogate babies? Oh please love, you're looking silly now

When did i say there was no such thing as a surrogate baby?

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Oh get a grip you have no idea how his personal life is so why don't you move on and actually discuss Perez in the house this is getting dull now.

The thread isn't about him being a good dad its about how the gay community perceive him and asking if we are offended by his behaviour.

Seriously talking about peoples children....Not on.

So I cannot comment on HIS ability or lack of it to bring a child up due to HIS mentally unstability .........Nothing to do with the poor child, I am commenting on HIM and HIS mental illness ... A good Dad would not do things like this


He was notorious for harsh comments about celebrity children, drawing on pictures of them and of course, trying to out gay stars.

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[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

When did i say there was no such thing as a surrogate baby?

You said you cannot buy a baby, Ive pointed out a surrogate baby,is a bought baby

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

The younger gay generation are very disrespectful to the struggles gay people went through decades ago to get us where we are today actually they don't give those people a 2nd thought and tend to mock the older generation when they see them out in the clubs.

This doesn't have anything to with Perez though. And all I am seeing in the gay community is the younger gays having a problem with Perez, not the older ones. And as I have said there are many types of homosexual men, including many who are just like Perez, if that happens to be the media stereotype then who cares, why should people like Perez change because other gays feel as if it makes them look bad; it should be those that feel like that who need to re-evaluate themselves and learn to accept who they are, their sexuality being just a fraction of it.

[chuff me dizzy]

He moved to New York City in 2013, stating, "I love New York and that is where me and my growing family want to call home right now".[108] Hilton was referring to his first child, Mario Armando Lavandeira III, born on February 16, 2013, conceived with a donor egg and carried by a surrogate mother.[109]



SURROGATE ,BOUGHT BABY

[Beso]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

It does actually.

Does it heck as like.

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by parmnion

I don't get the outrage, what is he doing that is offended so many homosexuals?

Breathing?

[abhorson]

Originally Posted by Miranda123

Breathing?

Don't discriminate, i think that too

[Beso]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Nah im totally comfortable with myself I just look at the bigger picture and gay culture and struggles since the 1950's and do not give a selfish attitude.

The younger gay generation are very disrespectful to the struggles gay people went through decades ago to get us where we are today actually they don't give those people a 2nd thought and tend to mock the older generation when they see them out in the clubs.

The point im making as Perez is using the homophobia card and when gay people want to be treated as equal how are we going to get that when theres fags like him in the world out to accuse everyone of being homophobic.

It really gives out the opinion that us gays can throw the homophobia card out there and use it to our advantage and its not true.

People will be afraid to say something to us incase they think we may get offended and that sucks.

I champion your conviction but still don't see perez throwing out these accusations left right and centre..with alex he has obviously looked into his background and seen that he can come across as homophobic so I guess when you couple that with his statements in the house then I think perez has every ri9ght to through out an accusation towards alexander, lets face it, it was alexanders own words, perez did not put them there for him.


I would be more upset (if I were gay) had perez not stood up to him..