[the truth]

theres vast enormous under current of support for farage
the vast majority agree with him but are too scared to admit it in public , but will admit it in private.
this is a legacy of pc Britain under new labour where conversations were outlawed and free speech destroyed as our civil rights were destroyed
we ended up with child benefits being sent to india and Romania, to 60% of hiv patients being from abroad, to net immigration of over 300,000 a year

this support is enormous, you ask people one to one in private its incredible how much support there is for farage BUT lots speak of their fear for some lunatics he may have behind him

[Firewire]

Less than people think

[Shaun]

Did think about 15 a month or two ago, now I'd only say about 7.

[Firewire]

Originally Posted by Shaun

Did think about 15 a month or two ago, now I'd only say about 7.

yeah less than 10 i think

[JoshBB]

4-9 imo, between that range

[MTVN]

More than 5 and I'll be amazed. IMO their election hopes are looking pretty unstable, you'd think their best hopes are the two Tory defectors and Farage. Carswell should be fine of the Tory defectors but seems like he could be less sure of his decision than he was, and Reckless' hold on his seat isn't that strong. Even Farage looks like he could be in danger of not winning his seat and tbh Ukip lack many other politicians of any decent standing. I'll say that they win 3

[Mystic Mock]

From my experience it's the right wing politics that's more “PC” than the left, just go back to my thread about Perez being Jesus Christ.

But onto the topic I think that Farage will win the Looney Party about 8 to 10 extra seats.

[bots]

I would estimate 2 or 3 seats

[Rob!]

I'm hoping it's going to be similar to how the Lib Dems did last general election when there was loads of seats expected for them to win and they did awfully.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

From my experience it's the right wing politics that's more “PC” than the left, just go back to my thread about Perez being Jesus Christ.

But onto the topic I think that Farage will win the Looney Party about 8 to 10 extra seats.

what complete nonsense , no offence, but labour and new labour especially virtually invented PC and destroyed free speech

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by the truth

what complete nonsense , no offence, but labour and new labour especially virtually invented PC and destroyed free speech

They both don't allow free speech on different things, I do personally however think that the extreme right wing parties like UKIP and BNP like to be allowed to say their opinion, but not allow the opposition to say that it's wrong in their opinion, I have not seen a left wing person do that quite as much as I have seen the right do it.

[empire]

nigel farage and his party will shock alot of people, just how far they will go in the polls, on may, lib dems are finished, they had 1st place or second place, close to their fingers, in 2010, but they made a cock up big time. I think ukip will have nearly 2 milliom votes in their pocket.

[DemolitionRed]

Not many. UKIP are relying on peoples naivety. The majority will never vote for political fools.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

They both don't allow free speech on different things, I do personally however think that the extreme right wing parties like UKIP and BNP like to be allowed to say their opinion, but not allow the opposition to say that it's wrong in their opinion, I have not seen a left wing person do that quite as much as I have seen the right do it.

You make a fair point, UKIP believe in free speech and democracy,when it suits them ,not when it can work against them.
They for instance don't want 16 and 17 year olds to have a vote in any in/out referendum on the EU,that is because it is perceived that the younger sections of society are more likely in favour of being in the EU.
UKIP also doesn't want anyone, not of British origin who is working here, living here and that have even been here for ages and who are registered to vote in elections,to also not have a vote in an in/ out referendum.
So rights as to democracy and free speech seem to be likely only going to be allowed if it falls in the more agreement section with UKIP.

Anyway to the question, I think UKIP will have a minimum 2 seats, probably 5 and no more than 7.
They would need Labour and the Conservatives to be down to around 31% each and for them to be on around 22% to even get to that.
I don't see that happening myself.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Not many. UKIP are relying on peoples naivety. The majority will never vote for political fools.

Oh really? How do we account for; Neville Chamberlain, Edward Heath, John Major, Tony Blair?

[kirklancaster]

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Oh really? How do we account for; Neville Chamberlain, Edward Heath, John Major, Tony Blair?

They all promised something that enough of the people wanted. Votes gathered on a false promise is something we all know about.

Whilst I can appreciate that UKIP are like a cat amongst the pigeons, their politics are weak and wishy-washy.

[Livia]

I'm not sure they'll win that many seats; a few maybe. But what they are going to do is split the vote and affect the outcome of the election.

[user104658]

Not many, because this statement:

Originally Posted by the truth

the vast majority agree with him but are too scared to admit it in public

...is absolute nonsense.

[Nedusa]

I pray they win as many as possible and are asked to help form a coalition Govt.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

I pray they win as many as possible and are asked to help form a coalition Govt.

A Conservative / UKIP coailition would be an absolute nightmare. Even the Tories wouldn't want to go for it, because realistically, the Tories don't want to leave the EU. They just shy away from outright stating that it should never happen. The reason for this, is that the Conservatives do actually understand that leaving the EU - whilst a popular idea with naive xenophobes - is actually economically ****ing retarded.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

A Conservative / UKIP coailition would be an absolute nightmare. Even the Tories wouldn't want to go for it, because realistically, the Tories don't want to leave the EU. They just shy away from outright stating that it should never happen. The reason for this, is that the Conservatives do actually understand that leaving the EU - whilst a popular idea with naive xenophobes - is actually economically ****ing retarded.

Whilst I agree with everything you say, a Conservative/UKIP coalition would be a sure way of killing UKIP off for good.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Whilst I agree with everything you say, a Conservative/UKIP coalition would be a sure way of killing UKIP off for good.

Well, it worked for the Lib Dems!

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

A Conservative / UKIP coailition would be an absolute nightmare. Even the Tories wouldn't want to go for it, because realistically, the Tories don't want to leave the EU. They just shy away from outright stating that it should never happen. The reason for this, is that the Conservatives do actually understand that leaving the EU - whilst a popular idea with naive xenophobes - is actually economically ****ing retarded.

In your extremely poorly informed opinion. My opinion is the exact opposite.

I would be willing to wager that none of you pro EU stalwarts are even conversant with the real facts about the EU - from its Nazi origins to its current day corrupt and sinister covert agenda.

I posted a photo 8 posts back hoping that someone would comment or query it, but to no avail.

Do you know its relevancy here?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

In your extremely poorly informed opinion. My opinion is the exact opposite.

I would be willing to wager that none of you pro EU stalwarts are even conversant with the real facts about the EU - from its Nazi origins to its current day corrupt and sinister covert agenda.

I posted a photo 8 posts back hoping that someone would comment or query it, but to no avail.

Do you know its relevancy here?

And any of this is relevant to the economic impact of leaving the EU? It doesn't matter if it was founded by and is still operated by goat slaughtering Satan worshippers... Leaving it would cause untold economic damage, and the only reason the Tories even entertain the idea of an in/out referendum is to appease people who have no comprehension of that.

The reason UKIP wants out of Europe is because it's full of idiots and racists who would blame stubbing their toe on the shoddy workmanship of a Polish joiner if they could find a link.