[the truth]

Originally Posted by Redway

It's such a shame. I'm pretty sure males are much more prone to the likes of alcoholism, drug addiction and schizophrenia as well as suicide so clearly stupid terms like 'be a man' drive us into more severe conditions than women.

and yet they get no funding no empathy no government support not even any attention for this disaster? as usual in this dumbed down country, the squeaking wheel gets the grease...so these suicidal men get no help at all before jumping off the top of a car park, those crucial funds are syphoned off to pay for womens liposuctions and plastic tits? talk about messed up priorites

[Livia]

Originally Posted by the truth

and yet they get no funding no empathy no government support not even any attention for this disaster? as usual in this dumbed down country, the squeaking wheel gets the grease...so these suicidal men get no help at all before jumping off the top of a car park, those crucial funds are syphoned off to pay for womens liposuctions and plastic tits? talk about messed up priorites

It's not only women who have cosmetic surgery. You're casting all women as monsters and all men as poor victims when it just isn't true! If that man had approached his doctor he would have got the same attention as a woman would. I have a male friend who's bipolar and who gets exemplary treatment on the NHS despite having a penis. I can guarantee you that all the women on this site that I know have loved a man, have cared for him and worried about him and wanted the best for him. Be that a father, a brother, a husband, a boyfriend... And if you can't see that, honestly... I feel a little sorry for you.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by the truth

and yet they get no funding no empathy no government support not even any attention for this disaster? as usual in this dumbed down country, the squeaking wheel gets the grease...so these suicidal men get no help at all before jumping off the top of a car park, those crucial funds are syphoned off to pay for womens liposuctions and plastic tits? talk about messed up priorites

Agreeing that there's a huge gender inequality in some health conditions/complications doesn't mean I subscribe to your ridiculous blatantly misogynistic ideologies.

[lostalex]

It's weird that men are complaining that men aren't getting enough resources... yet aren't men holding most of the positions of power?

Weird how some people here seem to be blaming women and minorities for this horrible statistic, even though men have most of the power...

Why aren't the Men in power supporting other men that are vulnerable and need help??? can anyone answer that for me?

It's obvious that it's men themselves and hetero male macho culture that is to blame, yet the same old misogynists keep trying to blame women or gays or some other imaginary ghost for all of these problems.

It;s interesting that some people seem to blame women and other minorities every time there is a struggle in white male culture. as if we are supposed to be supporting THEM, even though they have all the power, we are expected to be their mothers and nurturers?? i don't understand that logic at all.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by the truth

pls save your false sympathy for the 5000 men who kill themselves in this country every year

And forget about all the women who kill themselves a year as well?

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Redway

And forget about all the women who kill themselves a year as well?

I think the number of women killed by heterosexual men definitely balances out the male suicide statistics.

Let's talk about the statistics that women are most likely to be killed in their own home by their own heterosexual male partners. a woman is safer sleeping in a back alley behind a skip than in her own bed with her straight male partner.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by lostalex

I think the number of women killed by heterosexual men definitely balances out the male suicide statistics.

Well that's a completely different topic of discussion, and it doesn't make the issue of male suicide any less serious. I wouldn't go that far

And I don't know why you're tagging on the term "heterosexual" to the woman's male partner as if it isn't already painfully obvious the implied sexuality. And like I said that's a completely different area of discussion. You'd be best starting your own thread about it instead of diverting the thread.

The only statistics relevant here are in relation to male suicide. You're just going off on tangents now, almost as if to put a negative spin of heterosexual males..

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Redway

Well that's a completely different topic of discussion, and it doesn't make the issue of male suicide any less serious. I wouldn't go that far

hey, it's just statistics... we are talking about statistics right?

[the truth]

Originally Posted by lostalex

I think the number of women killed by heterosexual men definitely balances out the male suicide statistics.

Let's talk about the statistics that women are most likely to be killed in their own home by their own heterosexual male partners. a woman is safer sleeping in a back alley behind a skip than in her own bed with her straight male partner.

no that is untrue. 5000 women are not killed every year in this country, whereas 5000 men do take their lives.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Redway

Well that's a completely different topic of discussion, and it doesn't make the issue of male suicide any less serious. I wouldn't go that far

And I don't know why you're tagging on the term "heterosexual" to the woman's male partner as if it isn't already painfully obvious the implied sexuality. And like I said that's a completely different area of discussion. You'd be best starting your own thread about it instead of diverting the thread.

The only statistics relevant here are in relation to male suicide. You're just going off on tangents now, almost as if to put a negative spin of heterosexual males..

its his usual heterophobia polluting the thread

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Womens charities generally speaking are started by and run by women though, why aren't you calling on your fellow men to start up these charities for men instead of blaming women for the lack of them? You seem to be directing your anger at women when in reality it's not womens fault that there isn't enough mens charities or funding

male issues get virtually no coverage in the mainstream or in parliament, its a sick joke. that's why its reached such disastrous stages of a record 5000 suicides a year and growing. women say NOTHING men aren't allowed to say anything or else they'll be called mysoginist pigs and politicians cant even touch the subject or be labelled sexist too and theyre careers ruined....males in the media who have spoken out like Michael buerk lost their jobs. whereas women can say anything they like, whens the last time a woman got sacked for saying sexist things? even though they do all day every day? some shows even mock and laugh about men being murdered by their partners?

but dave Cameron and harriet harmon can find the time to discuss and debate millionare tennis players getting more prize money for playing 3 sets of tennis? pathetic.

the priorities are up the spout and the silence from women speaks volumes, it says they simply don't care about men

[Kizzy]

Do you ever feel you're under too much pressure truth, Have you asked for help coping with things in your life?
I'm not being rude it's just sometimes it seems you need to vent a bit. I'm not downplaying the seriousness of the problem at all, have you had personal experience of feeling unsupported when you need help?

[Kizzy]

Women were given a bum deal there's no getting away from it, I hear you feel the pendulum is swinging too far in the opposite direction and with regard to family courts and maintenance issues you may have a point, however I don't feel that is an issue caused in it's entirety by Women.
As said if there is no support network in your area ask your local Councillor why..or better still start one. The church would be a great place to start, I'm sure they would be able to help with all manor of things.. A venue, advertising, organising speakers from different organisations adult mental health for instance?
It's worth an ask if it's an issue that's really close to your heart.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Women were given a bum deal there's no getting away from it, I hear you feel the pendulum is swinging too far in the opposite direction and with regard to family courts and maintenance issues you may have a point, however I don't feel that is an issue caused in it's entirety by Women.
As said if there is no support network in your area ask your local Councillor why..or better still start one. The church would be a great place to start, I'm sure they would be able to help with all manor of things.. A venue, advertising, organising speakers from different organisations adult mental health for instance?
It's worth an ask if it's an issue that's really close to your heart.

its not just greatly caused by women, its the fact women don't seem to care...not politicians, not councillors, not women in the media...otherwise why do they never even address it, discuss it, debate it, let alone fund it. women need to understand men have feellings too, men love their families and their kids too.....women need to understand they are deliberately and systematically destroying good men in this country

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by the truth

its not just greatly caused by women, its the fact women don't seem to care...not politicians, not councillors, not women in the media...otherwise why do they never even address it, discuss it, debate it, let alone fund it. women need to understand men have feellings too, men love their families and their kids too.....women need to understand they are deliberately and systematically destroying good men in this country

Don't think this is fair really..when infact its NOONE seems to care. Not women in the media, not men in the media.

It is an issue that needs addressed, though honestly I didn't know these support groups and stuff were female only, I always assumed men just...didn't go.

Man up is a phrase that needs to **** off tbh. I hate it.

[Kizzy]

Yet as said the number of men in positions of local and national influence greatly outnumber women, therefore it seems unfair to put the blame squarely at their feet.
There can be supportive campaigns for issues affecting both males and females both are equally important and deserve recognition.
Many women do understand, it's unfair to accuse all women the way you do for failings in the system.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Yet as said the number of men in positions of local and national influence greatly outnumber women, therefore it seems unfair to put the blame squarely at their feet.
There can be supportive campaigns for issues affecting both males and females both are equally important and deserve recognition.
Many women do understand, it's unfair to accuse all women the way you do for failings in the system.

men are not allowed to speak up on these issues or else they will be labelled mysoginist sexist pigs and will lose their jobs, careers, homes and their families will soon follow..there is no freedom of speech for men, whereas women can say virtually anything they like....so yes the onus is now on women to do something and show they actually care and actually believe in equality for ALL...(not just women)

where are these women? what are they saying? ive heard nothing from them anywhere....men speak up for womens rights, male mps do help women all the time, women do nothing for men, not in parliament , nor in the civil service, the courts, the councils or the social services....even little things like the way female nurses talk to talk patients is a disgrace, the way medical secretaries talk to men is a disgrace,demanding personal information about their medical problems? theyre not remotely qualified to do so, its ruse simply to get the man to call back, even if its serious.. if it was the other way around theyd be reprimanded and sacked...women are allowed and encouraged to complain about every tiny little thing, to claim compensation where they can...to sue the moment 1 or 2 words they claim t find offensive to gain yet more financial compensation. its absurd.

no women in mainstream have done a damned thing about male suicides in this country. that tells me simply women don't give a damn. therefore the problem is not only greatly caused by women and ruthless mothers preventing fathers from seeing their children or lying about who is the father (another sin that should be a crime, with longer sentences for women who milk money from men who are later found to not be the fathers ) theyre rewarded and encouraged to be this ruthless and conniving.
the problem of male suicides is a male problem hugely created by women who couldn't care less

[hijaxers]

Here's one for ya to ponder - 4 men were out drinking in Bristol at the weekend and all 4 of them were spiked with Rohypnol ! This has not been reported in the news ( imagine if it were women ! ) They think it happened in a pub on Hotwells Rd - although they had left before the full effects of the drug took hold , one of them had other health problems that led to him being hospitalized quite quickly - hence they actually found rohypnol in his blood stream ! if this had been 4 women it would have been headlines - its men so i've heard nothing in the local press at all !
I know this as my friend works with a member of the family it happened to and i feel its just another case of it happened to men so its not worth reporting to the greater community. I find this quite disgusting
Do you all ?

[the truth]

Originally Posted by hijaxers

Here's one for ya to ponder - 4 men were out drinking in Bristol at the weekend and all 4 of them were spiked with Rohypnol ! This has not been reported in the news ( imagine if it were women ! ) They think it happened in a pub on Hotwells Rd - although they had left before the full effects of the drug took hold , one of them had other health problems that led to him being hospitalized quite quickly - hence they actually found rohypnol in his blood stream ! if this had been 4 women it would have been headlines - its men so i've heard nothing in the local press at all !
I know this as my friend works with a member of the family it happened to and i feel its just another case of it happened to men so its not worth reporting to the greater community. I find this quite disgusting
Do you all ?

yes, its just men after all...women and children first. ill look out for that story though thanks for that

[the truth]

ive never even seen sexism against women in my country? never....where I live women get the right to do everything...in work women wpout filth and speak about their private sex lives...men never EVER do that....women generalize about men all day every day...the women say nonsense like men are idiots men don't understand this or that....men could never do this job...all men are bastards etc etc it just goes on and on........even behind closed doors, ive never ever witnessed any man abuse any woman...though ive seen a lot of women steal from men, shout and verbally abuse men for years and years until in the end in some cases it reduced the men to dirt....that's what ive seen, that's real politics.

[Niamh.]

Jesus, you really hate women

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Jesus, you really hate women

jeez you really hate men

[hijaxers]

Originally Posted by the truth

yes, its just men after all...women and children first. ill look out for that story though thanks for that

I will update you on this tomorrow

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by the truth

jeez you really hate men

I haven't said anything bad about men, why would you think that? I have a son, a husband and 3 brothers, I don't hate men at all

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I haven't said anything bad about men, why would you think that? I have a son, a husband and 3 brothers, I don't hate men at all

you've said nothing to help them....as a mother id have thought youd be more passionate about fighting male suicide male mortality rates, men losing their children etc doesn't this concern you? I don't hate women despite your pernicious comments.. I do hate the way some behave , how little support they give men , how little they speak up for mens rights too , how unaccountable many are and how there are so many double standards