[arista]

Scottish Labour Leader with Izzy Izzard
in Glasgow
got protesters stopping them.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

Scottish Labour with Izzy Izzard
in Glasgow
got protesters stopping them.

Actually that doesn't do politics any credit.

Candidates should be able to speak and protesters then protest before/afterwards or challenge them via questioning and the odd bit of heckling.

Ugly scenes of pushing and ignorance, do no one any service at all and certainly not the area or Country it takes place in either.

One would hope all parties, will condemn this,because it is something that should not be tolerated, no door should be opened to this kind of behaviour, if people moan at politicians.(all politicians of all parties), not going out and facing them,then attack them like this and act like animals,then politics is really doomed in this Country.

I believe in civilised protest and discontent, not this kind of aggression it seems occurred here today.

I wouldn't blame the SNP,I understand there are good pockets of really strong socialist acivists in Scotland, who genuinely feel that Labour has never really delivered for them in govt;,and also turned their back on even now.
As was said today,the move from Labour really took hold in 2011 at the Holyrood elections,Labour was high in the polls in the UK but underperformed in those Holyrood elections.
Until the SNP really badly slip up, this is how it is going to be likely there now.

[Kizzy]

Russell Brand backs Labour and Ed Miliband

Come on yoof! time to vote

[arista]

and he backs Greens

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

and he backs Greens

One Green only in Brighton, Labour everywhere else as to England.

Actually I rate caroline Lucas for the Greens too.

Good on him for coming out now ,after saying to masses of people don't vote at all before, it shows even the most ardent non voter can have their mind changed.

[bots]

Doesn't say a lot for his previous conviction not to vote when he can have his mind changed after a 2 minute chat. All a bit contrived and silly if you ask me

[Kizzy]

Needs must when the devil drives.

[Jack_]

So happy that the Trews teaser video was right and Russell's backing Labour

Robert Webb tweeted the video as well and Caroline Flack retweeted it, all these celebs who aren't Tories

[Kizzy]

It's on my trews thread Jack

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Doesn't say a lot for his previous conviction not to vote when he can have his mind changed after a 2 minute chat. All a bit contrived and silly if you ask me

Well exactly, Brand's great revolution becomes 'vote for one of the main two parties' after a short interview where Brand actually did most of the talking over Miliband. Genuinely radical activists must think the man is a total tool. I'd think the whole thing was some sort of long-winded stunt if it wasn't for the fact that he's publicly urged for people to vote after the deadline to register has passed and he's been telling all his followers for the last couple of years how pointless voting is

[joeysteele]

For me, it is always a good thing to try to work out and understand why someone doesn't think voting does any good.
Ed Miliband has clearly helped achieve what would have been maybe considered an impossibility.

The one thing I hope is, that should Labour win enough to be the govt; on Thursday,that he does keep his word,I think he will but I do hope he will too.

No one can measure what success if any comes from Russell's statement and endorsement today,he has felt convinced enough with meeting Ed Miliband,to not only endorse Labour but suggest others vote Labour too.

Russell Brand has, love or hate him, a massive following, so I say again, well done to Miliband for meeting up with him and talking to him.
Anything that helps in any way to turn around someone against voting into getting them to consider doing so let alone do it,warrants praise not condemnation.

I am also still really pleased that Miliband went to see him after the voting deadline registration had passed as he would have had all sorts of 'pulling stunts' accusations thrown at him, had he done so.

[Kazanne]

Who really would vote for someone just because they are a celebrity(kind of)? C'mon ,lol,that's really desperate,so people are saying labour will win,not due to their policies etc,but because Brand told them too,sorry that's a pretty weak party imo.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Who really would vote for someone just because they are a celebrity(kind of)? C'mon ,lol,that's really desperate,so people are saying labour will win,not due to their policies etc,but because Brand told them too,sorry that's a pretty weak party imo.

No, I certainly wouldn't say that,however Russell Brand does have a very large following of people who in the main follow what he says and does.

I prefer celebrities to keep out of things,however we have had Ant and Dec sticking the knife in Miliband,last election we had Gary Barlow doing so as to Brown.

What I like about this is,that someone who is in the public eye,has said repeatedly, people shouldn't bother voting as it likely changes nothing.
From a discussion with a party leader and it could have been any party leader really.
A almost definite non voter has become a voter and he has now retracted his statement of people shouldn't vote.

Anything at all,in my view, that helps gets anyone to vote that wasn't going to, is for me only good for politics.
No matter who the people then vote for.
This may have some effect, little effect or no effect at all but at least hopefully more people voting could be a result.

It saddens me that more politicians don't make greater efforts as to trying to persuade likely non voters to vote, instead of thinking they can rely on their usual voters trooping out, most taken for granted, election after election, to see them through.

If more was done to find out why people didn't vote, and more was done to address it, we may get far better government in the UK,no matter the result of elections.

Anyway, Delia Smith has also endorsed Labour today, well she could do a lot for the worn out foot weary troops and bake loads of cakes to give out to them to eat,as they go about leafleting and canvassing.
That would be a good practical help.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

No, I certainly wouldn't say that,however Russell Brand does have a very large following of people who in the main follow what he says and does.

I prefer celebrities to keep out of things,however we have had Ant and Dec sticking the knife in Miliband,last election we had Gary Barlow doing so as to Brown.

What I like about this is,that someone who is in the public eye,has said repeatedly, people shouldn't bother voting as it likely changes nothing.
From a discussion with a party leader and it could have been any party leader really.
A almost definite non voter has become a voter and he has now retracted his statement of people shouldn't vote.

Anything at all,in my view, that helps gets anyone to vote that wasn't going to, is for me only good for politics.
No matter who the people then vote for.
This may have some effect, little effect or no effect at all but at least hopefully more people voting could be a result.

It saddens me that more politicians don't make greater efforts as to trying to persuade likely non voters to vote, instead of thinking they can rely on their usual voters trooping out, most taken for granted, election after election, to see them through.

If more was done to find out why people didn't vote, and more was done to address it, we may get far better government in the UK,no matter the result of elections.

Anyway, Delia Smith has also endorsed Labour today, well she could do a lot for the worn out foot weary troops and bake loads of cakes to give out to them to eat,as they go about leafleting and canvassing.
That would be a good practical help.

I saw Delia Joey,are you getting excited about it all now?I must say I will be watching it throughout the night,I might have to have Friday off work,:-) I never saw the Gary Barlow ,Ant and Dec thing,just seen that Russle Brand has been pretty vocal,anyway good luck with it all,I will keep my fingers crossed for my boy,IF Milliband gets in,I hope he doesn't let you down even worse the country,anyway enjoy xx

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I saw Delia Joey,are you getting excited about it all now?I must say I will be watching it throughout the night,I might have to have Friday off work,:-) I never saw the Gary Barlow ,Ant and Dec thing,just seen that Russle Brand has been pretty vocal,anyway good luck with it all,I will keep my fingers crossed for my boy,IF Milliband gets in,I hope he doesn't let you down even worse the country,anyway enjoy xx

Excited definitely but I have met some amazing people and had incredible conversations.
Most of them probably will not even be voting but if I have managed to persuade even one,it is progress.

Hard to work this one out,the Midlands is very hard to work out and that was my home area,They give very little away.

I am excited, determined but who knows really, I may not end up getting all I hoped for but I have done, and will continue to give as much of my all trying to.
I've no fears of Ed Miliband letting me down,his policies are easy to implement and succeed in,he hasn't over promised.

[bots]

If no-one else is going to say it, I will - Russell and Delia - a recipe for disaster

[Kizzy]

Spoiler:

Come on Kaz, you would...

https://twitter.com/cooledmiliband

[arista]

[Kizzy]

Give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us, and lead us not into temptation but deliver us from evil.

Wise words?.....

[arista]

From todays Daily Politics

The Bow Group
is backing Conservative
and UKIP in South Thanet

[arista]

[Independent Newspaper Backs
Conservative-Lib Dem Coalition
The newspaper gives surprise praise to David Cameron
and Nick Clegg and says Labour propped up by the SNP would be "a disaster".]

http://news.sky.com/story/1477664/in...-dem-coalition


A Very Wise Paper

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Spoiler:

Come on Kaz, you would...

https://twitter.com/cooledmiliband

No I wouldn't Kizzy,I don't like his eyes

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

[Independent Newspaper Backs
Conservative-Lib Dem Coalition
The newspaper gives surprise praise to David Cameron
and Nick Clegg and says Labour propped up by the SNP would be "a disaster".]

http://news.sky.com/story/1477664/in...-dem-coalition


A Very Wise Paper

They may come to regret this, I read the Independent,I am not happy at their stance this time round,I always liked that they usually keep fairly neutral.

I understand there were rumblings of great doubt at the offices of the paper as to doing this.
They do stress they want a much stronger Liberal orientated coalition, they are in no way endorsing the Conservatives, they actually criticise heavily the Conservatives.
However as was seen last time, the Lib Dems will cave in to have any share of power.
I think the Independent has made a very big error here.

Personally it doesn't bother me,the press are losing more and more of any influence they likely ever had before, that is the real good thing about politics now.

[arista]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

They may come to regret this, I read the Independent,I am not happy at their stance this time round,I always liked that they usually keep fairly neutral.

I understand there were rumblings of great doubt at the offices of the paper as to doing this.
They do stress they want a much stronger Liberal orientated coalition, they are in no way endorsing the Conservatives, they actually criticise heavily the Conservatives.
However as was seen last time, the Lib Dems will cave in to have any share of power.
I think the Independent has made a very big error here.

Personally it doesn't bother me,the press are losing more and more of any influence they likely ever had before, that is the real good thing about politics now.

Yes a Great Paper
that does not want Chaos of Labour-SNP

[MTVN]

I agree with much of the editorial tbh. Really its more an endorsement of the Lib Dems for their moderating impact on the Conservatives and for offering the best hope of a stable coalition which would ideally be a lot more liberal the second time around. It might not prove very wise by them though given its struggles with readership anyway and most those who do buy it tend to be left of centre with a lot of Labour voters amongst them