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Old 13-05-2015, 05:05 PM #1
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Default Kent Police checking Thanet Council Vote Possible missing votes

http://news.sky.com/story/1483302/po...h-fraud-claims


If some UKIP votes were hidden
then the Election will have to run again
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the establishment parties fear farage, they cheated to make him lose that seat because he may of had more votes in those other ballot boxes that went missing, I believe that farage had at least 20.000 votes, than the 16.000 that where brought on the day of the election, I am very suspicious from day one, the establisnment parties where playing dirty tricks,
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Looks like we need another vote there
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Looks like we need another vote there

Yes I wonder if some votes got hidden or destroyed?


The Kent Police must get this sorted
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the establishment parties fear farage, they cheated to make him lose that seat because he may of had more votes in those other ballot boxes that went missing, I believe that farage had at least 20.000 votes, than the 16.000 that where brought on the day of the election, I am very suspicious from day one, the establishment parties where playing dirty tricks,

Yes I am Glad its the Outside Police are
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'IF'any votes or boxes did end up going missing, then which party was that going to benefit.
Possibly UKIP who would need them to help take the seat,so would for sure want them included,or,possibly the Conservative party who in fact held the seat without them being there.

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There are lots of reasons why sometimes votes don't tally. For instance, if there are two elections going on, say, a general election and a district election, some people vote in one and pocket the other ballot paper without voting. It's not necessarily a conspiracy. But of course, the police must be involved because tampering with the vote is a very serious offence.
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the establishment have been playing dirty tricks for a long time, when Harold Wilson was pm, he came from a working class background, they disliked him for that because he was not one of them, he disliked the establishment, they even planed for a military coup, in the early 70s, to have him out, they even made lies about him that he was a soviet agent, now military coups are not very English are they, farage plane crash was no accident either, I would not trust the police forces or the intelligent services, they are in the same bed,
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the establishment have been playing dirty tricks for a long time, when Harold Wilson was pm, he came from a working class background, they disliked him for that because he was not one of them, he disliked the establishment, they even planed for a military coup, in the early 70s, to have him out, they even made lies about him that he was a soviet agent, now military coups are not very English are they, farage plane crash was no accident either, I would not trust the police forces or the intelligent services, they are in the same bed,
I'm surprised you ever leave the safety of your home.
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'IF'any votes or boxes did end up going missing, then which party was that going to benefit.
Possibly UKIP who would need them to help take the seat,so would for sure what them included,or,possibly the Conservative party who in fact held the seat without them being there.

Yes "If"
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Read peter wrights book spycatcher, the establishment tried to ban it, there are other things in the book that could not be show to the public, because people would catch on in how the establishment works, even in the elections and how they really work.
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The swivel eyed brigade love a conspiracy
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Read peter wrights book spycatcher, the establishment tried to ban it, there are other things in the book that could not be show to the public, because people would catch on in how the establishment works, even in the elections and how they really work.
I'm a qualified election agent. I already know how they work.
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If there are missing votes, a re-election would be an appropriate solution. But please stop pretending that UKIP are anti-establishment. The party is filled with ex-tories, ex-labour, bankers, huge business donors.. you name it.
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If there are missing votes, a re-election would be an appropriate solution. But please stop pretending that UKIP are anti-establishment. The party is filled with ex-tories, ex-labour, bankers, huge business donors.. you name it.
the key word is EX.....THEYRE REBELLING
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If that's happened there how do we know it hasn't happened lots of places?....
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'No electoral fraud' in Nigel Farage-contested Thanet South seat
13 May 2015

"No evidence" of electoral fraud has been found in the Thanet South seat contested in the general election by Nigel Farage, police have said.

The UKIP leader failed to win the seat, losing out to Conservative candidate Craig Mackinlay.

Kent Police said initial investigations were prompted by contact from outside the county expressing concerns over social media speculation.

Thanet District Council said it was not under investigation for fraud.

In a statement it said police had an obligation to follow up the complaint.

"The council's returning officer is satisfied that the correct processes were followed and a member of the Electoral Commission was present at the election in Thanet," it said.

'Postal vote problems'

The election result was not declared at the count at Margate's Winter Gardens until about 10.35 GMT on Friday, hours later than expected.

BBC reporters were told by officials at the time the delays were caused by the sheer volume of ballot papers and problems verifying the postal vote.

Turnout was 69%, up from 65% in 2010.

Claims of suspicious behaviour appeared on social media following the delays.

The Twitter hashtag #thanetrigged gained momentum when UKIP claimed victory in the local council election, with the party taking control of the authority.

Some users said that UKIP's local council triumph so soon after Mr Farage's defeat pointed to suspicious behaviour in the parliamentary contest.
'No lost or stolen papers'

Thanet council said, in response to the speculation: "Thanet's parliamentary boundary is larger than the district boundary - extending into the Canterbury and Dover area - so comparing the parliamentary and district election results is misleading.

"There were no lost or stolen ballot papers."

Labour's South Thanet candidate Will Scobie, who received 11,740 votes, said he thought the count took a long time because they were "trying to do two constituencies at once".

Mr Mackinlay said he was "absolutely and completely" sure he was elected fairly and he added: "Let's see how this develops but I can't see there's anything in this."

Mr Farage secured 16,026 votes, with Mr Mackinlay achieving 18,838.

The Thanet South seat was also contested by Ian Driver of the Green Party, who got 1,076 votes, and Liberal Democrat Russell Timpson who secured 932 votes.

Both Mr Driver and Mr Timpson lost their deposits after failing to secure 5% of the vote.

Comedian Al Murray, who stood for election in the guise of The Pub Landlord for the Free United Kingdom Party, came in sixth place with 318 votes.

Mr Farage announced his resignation after failing to become an MP but this was rejected by his party and he continues to be UKIP leader.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32725167

'social media speculation' - there's so much nonsense and false info that gets copied and pasted, and taken as fact, on social media now.
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At the very least, Farage will have a lovely new thatched roof on his house, made out of all of the straw that UKIP supporters have been desperately grasping at.
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'social media speculation' - there's so much nonsense and false info that gets copied and pasted, and taken as fact, on social media now.



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At the very least, Farage will have a lovely new thatched roof on his house, made out of all of the straw that UKIP supporters have been desperately grasping at.
That is a good one.
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'social media speculation' - there's so much nonsense and false info that gets copied and pasted, and taken as fact, on social media now.
I was thinking also about in the Independence campaigners who thought they had video evidence that the referendum was rigged.
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You're not allowed to film or photograph inside a count. Before the 'yes' 'no' votes are counted, the whole vote is counted to make sure they have the same number of votes as ballot papers issued. Then they are separated into 'yes' and 'no' votes. This Chief Counting Officer has explained that where the table with the word 'no' on that showed ballot papers showing 'yes', the papers had only been through the verifying count and not yet separated. The count was scrutinised by election agents and counting agents from both sides plus the Electoral Commission. The Chief Counting Officer for Scotland was satisfied that the vote was fair. Of course, some random bloke uploading illegal film is far more persuasive if you're looking for some kind of conspiracy.

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There's a reason you can't film, you uncover corruption.
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