[arista]

Yes Dave
no pesty LibDems stopping you now



Bring it On

[Kizzy]

Removal of rights dressed up as 'protection' I urge everyone to look further than the sun for information.

[Kizzy]

Sun giving alcohol away again I see..... keep the proles subdued, take your medicine like good little serfs.

[Niamh.]

Poor old Kym Marsh though :'(

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Removal of rights dressed up as 'protection' I urge everyone to look further than the sun for information.

Yes
Rights of Evil Terrorists
who are doing a public talk.


Those Rights
are to go.

Feel The Force

[arista]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Poor old Kym Marsh though :'(

Typical

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by arista

Typical

waa

[Livia]

Hard to understand why all this wasn't already in place.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

waa

Ignoring the Man Topic

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Livia

Hard to understand why all this wasn't already in place.

*cough* Nick Clegg.


The lib dems blocked it three times..and are proud of it

[bots]

While something has to be done, I do agree on the potential for human rights abuses. We need to be very careful that we don't destroy our own ideals in order to fight the terrorists that seek to strip our freedoms from us, else they still have achieved their aims

[Crimson Dynamo]

good move by dave.

will be very popular

[Jack_]

Curbing people's civil liberties in the exaggerated name of counter terrorism is totally unacceptable, and the snoopers charter won't be the last of it

Wouldn't be surprised with the amount of protests that are going to occur over the next parliament if it was outlawed completely

Originally Posted by smudgie

*cough* Nick Clegg.

The lib dems blocked it three times..and are proud of it

So they should be. People will soon realise just how lucky we were to have the Lib Dems watering down the Tories over the last five years. Sure, they were pretty awful, but not nearly as awful as the next five will be.

[Z]

No army can stop an idea.

[jennyjuniper]

Originally Posted by Livia

Hard to understand why all this wasn't already in place.

Supposedly Cameron tried, but the Lib Dem coalition quashed it.

[the truth]

what about hate preaching at home?

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Curbing people's civil liberties in the exaggerated name of counter terrorism is totally unacceptable, and the snoopers charter won't be the last of it

Wouldn't be surprised with the amount of protests that are going to occur over the next parliament if it was outlawed completely



So they should be. People will soon realise just how lucky we were to have the Lib Dems watering down the Tories over the last five years. Sure, they were pretty awful, but not nearly as awful as the next five will be.

I already am Jack_ ,nothing David Cameron is now saying,rather than what he said more humbly after his election victory,is telling me things are going to be better.

It now seems too, with this unnecessary extra budget just 4 months after the last budget, which was supposed to be for the year ahead,is intended to bring in the more severe things the Lib Dems would not support.

I still feel fury at the Lib Dems for most of what they supported in the coalition but one of my worst fears in this election was a Conservative majority govt; or a Conservative govt; propped up by UKIP.

There are a lot of decent Conservative MPs,who I know, do themselves,(far more than some of their hardline supporters do), feel the govt; went too far in some things last time,my only hope is some of them sit on their hands or be 'absent' when certain votes come up.

I am not holding my breath as to that and I agree with you completely,with the same people in the same main positions,this 2nd ridiculous budget,and the rhetoric getting extreme again.
Like you I believe the next 5 years are going to be really awful.

One saving grace may be, this govt; gets so consumed over the EU referendum,that the whole process saps them of energy and time as to other things.
Thankfully a 12 majority for the Conservatives is a hard one to cope with for them, they love power and prefer to have a much larger cushion as to it.

[Kizzy]

Why would it be in place for everyone? if there is intelligence to suspect terrorism there are measures in the Civil Contingencies Act as well as other methods in the PREVENT/CONTEST strategies to counter terrorism without silencing free speech.
This is a rouse to silence anti establishment groups and those speaking out about governmental bad practice.