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Old 14-09-2015, 04:43 PM #26
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human benefit - are they going to starve if they remain, are they going to be shot, etc etc

social unrest - disrupting the running of uk society, not just immediately, but for however long the refugees will be resident. The immigration department now insists that those coming to the UK are educated in the social values of the UK. Will this be applied to these refugees? What are the increased risks of terrorism in our society etc etc etc

These things can be measured, and should be, before we jump to any rash decisions to accept refugees.
We didn't jump to anything. there was a humanitarian crisis caused by war and bombs...
Social values will be fine I'm sure, maybe the decision to take refugees direct from the camps is a counter terrorism strategy.
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We didn't jump to anything. there was a humanitarian crisis caused by war and bombs...
Social values will be fine I'm sure, maybe the decision to take refugees direct from the camps is a counter terrorism strategy.
But its pretty obvious those crossing the borders in southern Europe are not humanitarian refugees, and many, many of them will make their way to the UK.

If I'm understanding correctly, those being rescued from refugee camps will be vetted before entry into the UK and that's fine, but I bet the same checks are not carried out that are carried out for standard immigrants.

Also, I've seen no plan for where these refugees will be settled. The government have made a serious mess of that in the past, so I have no confidence that they can get it right now.
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But its pretty obvious those crossing the borders in southern Europe are not humanitarian refugees, and many, many of them will make their way to the UK.

If I'm understanding correctly, those being rescued from refugee camps will be vetted before entry into the UK and that's fine, but I bet the same checks are not carried out that are carried out for standard immigrants.

Also, I've seen no plan for where these refugees will be settled. The government have made a serious mess of that in the past, so I have no confidence that they can get it right now.
If they haven't been vetted they will indeed be illegal immigrants and if they are not found to be refugees they will not be given asylum.
That will be an issue for local councils I would have thought.
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